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For the five years that I've owned a 2006 Vintage speedster the fuel gauge has worked reasonably well. Now when I turn on the ignition the gauge immediately goes past full. I disconnected the wires (red-hot, black- ground) from the sending unit suspecting a stuck float. Unconnected,  the gauge does  the same thing-key on past full key off back to normal (empty) I can't find any  shorts or disconnected wires at the gauge.There is a 12volt reading at the hot wire  when ignition is on. Obviously a good ground. There is resistance across the terminals on the sending unit but this is not connected.  5 to 6 gallons of fuel in tank. I spoke with Kirk at Vintage and he doesn't know the problem but will send a new gauge for $160. Any ideas as to problem (internal short in gauge ?) before I order a new gauge.      

Happy New Year to all and am looking forward to Carlisle. This will be sixth year in a row.

Joel

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With the key off.... remove the two wires &  5 screws and pull out the float assembly

You'll need to cover over the float hole in the tank so that no fumes escape, reconnect the 12v and ground back to the float ( keep the flat away from the tank opening) with the key in the on position move the float up and down checking to see if the gauge needle moves.........

I'm with Al - sounds like a sender heading south.

The sender provides a progressively stronger connection to ground as a signal to the gauge, relative to the fuel level in the tank.  If the sender is dead (i.e., no resistance or an open circuit) the gauge will read "no resistance" or "Full".  That's how it works.

You probably don't need a new gauge.  You need a new sender.

Joel:  To test whether the sender is working at all or if the issue is in the gauge, disconnect the wire at the sender and then connect it to a known ground.  If the gauge is working properly, the needle should swing to the other end of the scale.  If it doesn't move, then check the wire between the sender and the gauge for continuity - Test with an ohm meter at the gauge end between the wire's terminal end and ground (disconnected from the gauge).  It should show a short when the sender end is grounded.  

You can also test the gauge this way - attach a short wire to the sender terminal on the gauge and short it to ground.  When you do that, the needle should swing to the other end of the scale.  If not, the gauge is dead.

I ran the tests that Alan and Gordon suggested and they show that the fuel gauge is functioning correctly but the sender must be dying because it moves the gauge out of the tank but not in the tank. I've cleaned the ground and it has good continuity. I've checked the  float in a pan of water and it works correctly  moving the sender mechanism. There was no corrosion on the sender. I'm waiting for a new sender.

Thanks guys for your help and education-I'll let you know the outcome.

Joel

"I've added a metal contact to the top of sending unit in case the screw  holding the wire doesn't make conductivity."

That's a good idea.  I've seen a few senders that lost their ground connection through the mounting screws - especially if they were installed with locktite on the threads.  Even if no locktite, the screw threads can corrode over time and loose their electrical connection.  I would spiff up the threads of the mounting screws with a wire brush before putting everything back together.

I have always been amazed.....That we're putting an electrical thing down inside a tank full of explosively flammable fluid and trust some designer somewhere else that it doesn't ignite.  I don't unnahstan why it don't, but it don't.

I replaced the fuel sending unit with an Empi 98-2021-B. It appears to be the same construction and quality as the VDO it replaced except it was a mirror image of the VDO. Therefore I had to position it 180 degrees to get the five screw holes to line up-they aren't equidistant. Anyhow it works -I'll have to use up the five gallons of fuel in the tank to see if it needs more calibration (bending the float arm)

Thanks guys for your help.

Joel 

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