Easy there boys, lets not get all lovey dovey here, keep that kiss kiss stuff to the PM
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Sounds like the old Timex vs Rolex. They both tell you what time it is. How much is "knowing what time it is" worth to you? Well actually, to me nothing. I don't own a watch of any kind. If I really need to know, I just ask whoever is standing next to me.
Maybe I should be hitch-hiking instead of drivng?
Maybe I should be hitch-hiking instead of drivng?
Mickey,
It's interesting to read about your taste in furniture.
You might like the Platner furniture I bought from Knoll in 1970.
Some would have thought it was expensive then and it is really expensive now.
But, it still looks great after all these years.
It's interesting to read about your taste in furniture.
You might like the Platner furniture I bought from Knoll in 1970.
Some would have thought it was expensive then and it is really expensive now.
But, it still looks great after all these years.
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Guess which one I have had more fun with over the years???? Yep your right the little white one. The gray (real)ones were nice but the little white one is the best by far. So who gives a flying f%%% what you drive!!!!!
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Michael,
If you're referring to the planter furniture that's constructed of thin metal rods, that stuff is beautiful! Put that stuff in your Will so it doesn't end up at the Salvation Army or something. I'd love to see some pics. If you ever find the time you can email them to me.
I knew a couple that lived locally (they moved to San Diego recently) that had a collection of vintage mid century modern chairs that was incredible.
There is some stuff I can take or leave but there are other pieces that are timeless. Iconic in a way. Alot of people think most of the stuff was designed in the 60's but so much of it was so ahead of it's time, being designed in the 30's, 40's and 50's. I guess that's why I love my speedster so much, it's timeless and was ahead of it's time.
Speaking of timeless, that picture of TJ is awesome!
If you're referring to the planter furniture that's constructed of thin metal rods, that stuff is beautiful! Put that stuff in your Will so it doesn't end up at the Salvation Army or something. I'd love to see some pics. If you ever find the time you can email them to me.
I knew a couple that lived locally (they moved to San Diego recently) that had a collection of vintage mid century modern chairs that was incredible.
There is some stuff I can take or leave but there are other pieces that are timeless. Iconic in a way. Alot of people think most of the stuff was designed in the 60's but so much of it was so ahead of it's time, being designed in the 30's, 40's and 50's. I guess that's why I love my speedster so much, it's timeless and was ahead of it's time.
Speaking of timeless, that picture of TJ is awesome!
Here is my reply to the thread on 356TALK.I joined this organization because I am interested in Porsche 356 automobiles. I have owned 3 Porsche 356 cars. I do not own one at present. I am very glad that some people have taken the time and put together this web site and the 356 Registry organization. I look forward to the magazine, the information presented in the 356TALK forums, and seeing the cars owned by members at various shows around the country. I like seeing perfectly restored cars, well maintained drivers, and even the sad, neglected junkyard refugee that someone has rescued from the ravages of rust and poor driving habits. I presently own a 2002 Intermeccanica Roadster. I drive it about 10,000 miles a year. I get a kick out of the view over the tops of the fenders, the way the motor sounds, the simple nature of the car, the smiles and positive comments that it receives, the time machine feel to it. It makes me feel 18 again, like I did when I drove my first 356. And when I adjust the valves, smell the oil, and hear he fan, I remember the sounds and smells, and smile. I am old, wearing out fast. My first 356 is most likely a pile of rust and bondo. At 18 I could afford a 356C on a hard working and thrifty paperboy's salary. In my late middle age, I can't afford a 57 Speedster! I am so glad that Henry Reisner has given me the chance to enjoy the smell, sound and sight of a 356A open car on my meager funds! I may not be one of the Porsche God Blessed, but I drove my car this afternoon on a perfect Santa Ana day. And felt like I was Blessed. There was nothing FAKE about it.
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tc
so far
you owe
terry
gordon
and cory an apology
no reason to say what you have said to them (cory and gordon from a prior post)
other than that
i do believe you are vince's long lost sister :)
so far
you owe
terry
gordon
and cory an apology
no reason to say what you have said to them (cory and gordon from a prior post)
other than that
i do believe you are vince's long lost sister :)
The cost of my membership contribution to this site is the absolutely best entertainment value EVER!!
Bwaaaaaa Haaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaa....
...now where are those Doritos?
Bwaaaaaa Haaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaa....
...now where are those Doritos?
All gone, Jim....here have some beer nuts!
BTW...Did I mention that Blackie is better than any real 356?
She runs circles around 'em! :)
~WB
BTW...Did I mention that Blackie is better than any real 356?
She runs circles around 'em! :)
~WB
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"tc
so far
you owe
terry
gordon
and cory an apology"
I you're know by the quality of your adversaries, I'm doin' GREAT ! ! ! !
Anyone know if Nuckles is a cop?
so far
you owe
terry
gordon
and cory an apology"
I you're know by the quality of your adversaries, I'm doin' GREAT ! ! ! !
Anyone know if Nuckles is a cop?
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TC LAY OFF THE BOOZE U MAKE NO SENSE
YES NUCKLES IS A COMMANDER WITH THE CHP
YES NUCKLES IS A COMMANDER WITH THE CHP
Well said Will.
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"TC LAY OFF THE BOOZE U MAKE NO SENSE"
You RIGHT ! It was a typo or two, sorry for the rush, ought to read:
If you're known by the quality of your adversaries, I'm doin' GREAT ! ! !
It was meant as a homage to Oscar Wilde who once said, "You can always judge a man by the quality of his enemies."
Clearly, my typos DID make me appear drunk, apologies all around. Truth is, other than an occasional wine toast at a wedding or 80th birthday party, usually just a single sip, I've only had one drink in my whole life. And it tasted just awful
You RIGHT ! It was a typo or two, sorry for the rush, ought to read:
If you're known by the quality of your adversaries, I'm doin' GREAT ! ! !
It was meant as a homage to Oscar Wilde who once said, "You can always judge a man by the quality of his enemies."
Clearly, my typos DID make me appear drunk, apologies all around. Truth is, other than an occasional wine toast at a wedding or 80th birthday party, usually just a single sip, I've only had one drink in my whole life. And it tasted just awful
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TC said, "Now that I know that Nuckles is a cop, everything makes sense. Thanks for the info."
And a damn fine one too. Deputy Nuckels does a fine job!
And a damn fine one too. Deputy Nuckels does a fine job!
Haven't been a cop for years.
I work for the IRS, fraud division.
I work for the IRS, fraud division.
Oh now you're just trying to scare us - and it's working!
Hey WildBill, could you pass me a few of those beernuts... how about a beer?
Fraud? Since I like my replica, I suppose I'm busted.
Isn't it amazing how this entire thing came around full circle?
Isn't it amazing how this entire thing came around full circle?
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As though written on a M
If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.
TC -
Mobious Strip - That's a great analogy and a perfect description of how these entertaining threads progress! I love it!
Peace - Out!
Mobious Strip - That's a great analogy and a perfect description of how these entertaining threads progress! I love it!
Peace - Out!
Would it make the real Porsche guys happy if my replica was worth maybe $3,500.00 , has twice the Hp of an original, feels great to drive and most people can't tell the difference anyway? Compairing my car to a shower stall is kind of funny, but my car has more moving parts than my 27 ft fiberglass boat that cost more than most Porsches. The bottom line is I enjoy my car and so do the guys with "real" ones. I drive mine all over the place and am not ashamed of it. It's just a car!
Mark
Mark
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"and judging by Mr Canty's remarks, I think I will enjoy being a thorn in his side...."
Vince is taunting me over at the Registry Forum so I came back over here to hide for a while.
Oh crap ! There he is
Vince is taunting me over at the Registry Forum so I came back over here to hide for a while.
Oh crap ! There he is
I had an interesting Porsche encounter this afternoon. I was driving my favorite back road and noticed that I was almost out of gas. There's a gas station just a mile or so past the end of this little road, and I pulled in to fill up. As I was leaving, I noticed this gorgeous silver Cayman pull in right next to me, and I caught the eye of the driver and waved. He just stared, but not in a hostile way. I pulled out and backtracked down my road to get home, and thought that maybe this guy had wanted to ask about the Speedster. No sooner had I finished the though then I saw him in the rearview mirror. He followed my all the way through all the curves, and then continued to follow me when that road ended and I headed home. I live in a gated community, and was surprised to see him pull into the gate area behind me. Oddly, the gate was stuck up (great security, huh?), and he followed me all the way to my house.
He was definitely interested in the car, and asked it it was an original body or fiberglass. He said he knew that the drive train was modern, because of the speed and handling on the curvy road (thanks!). We discussed replicas for a bit, and he said he really wanted to get a 550 Spyder. In fact, he has a 993 C4 for sale to finance the purchase of one. There was no snobbery evident at all. He asked if I was a member of the PCA, and I said that they were sometimes not receptive to our replicas, at which point he shook his head in mild disgust.
At any rate, his behavior is identical to what I've encountered with every Porsche owner I've met - so far. Maybe it's a Southern thing.
He was definitely interested in the car, and asked it it was an original body or fiberglass. He said he knew that the drive train was modern, because of the speed and handling on the curvy road (thanks!). We discussed replicas for a bit, and he said he really wanted to get a 550 Spyder. In fact, he has a 993 C4 for sale to finance the purchase of one. There was no snobbery evident at all. He asked if I was a member of the PCA, and I said that they were sometimes not receptive to our replicas, at which point he shook his head in mild disgust.
At any rate, his behavior is identical to what I've encountered with every Porsche owner I've met - so far. Maybe it's a Southern thing.
Lane, I think the Boxter and Caymen owners are treated the same as we are...because they are not 911's
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Every encounter that I've had with someone from a Southern state has been a REAL eye opener. I was in Nashville for a couple of weeks a long while ago and still talk about it. The people are just flat out WONDERFUL ! ! ! Beyond words, really. A startling change from the North East.
Your experiences are the exact opposite of my own; but then again I'm not a very good person and I usually project that from jump.
Still, the South has some terrific folks living there!
Your experiences are the exact opposite of my own; but then again I'm not a very good person and I usually project that from jump.
Still, the South has some terrific folks living there!
Hey prick...That guy is starting to piss me off
I had a strange inquiry the other day. I have a buddy that owns an auto repair place. Tthere's a guy that works in the office there, his name is Larry. Anyway, Larry's alright. I wouldn't call him a Porsche snob but there's always been a little bit of a raised eyebrow when it comes to my speedster. He only works there for something to do because he doesn't really need the money, his wife makes a pretty nice living. Larry is a car guy. He had a Cayenne and still has a boxster, a Mini and a Saab wagon. So the other day I swing by the shop for my daily visit and he says "Hey, who does a replica Roadster?" I asked him if he meant something more like a B Cabriolet or if he meant a Roadster? He said he was just curious and I asked who was looking, it was him. So I pulled up the IM site and Special Editions site as well as telling him about SAS. So I guess he's looking into one for himself now. It boils down to no matter what you think, or who you are, you can't help but fall in love with the looks of these cars. And Larry is sensible enough to know that he doesn't want the hassle of an original. I hope he gets one.
I had to go in the 356 registery and see what Vince and TC (FP) were up too. While I was there I noticed a list of cars under one of the members (Murray) and one of them is listed as a '63 B GT Clone'. So, like an idiot, "I went there" and posted.
If it's what I think it is (a stock 356B made/converted into a GT) isn't that a little deceitful? I mean what if some Porsche guy comes running up in the parking lot all excited about seeing a REAL 1963 356B GT only to find out it's a clone? Man, that's just wrong to misrepresent like that. I wonder what the guys on the 356B GT forum think about that. They must think that guy is a real turd. ;)
If it's what I think it is (a stock 356B made/converted into a GT) isn't that a little deceitful? I mean what if some Porsche guy comes running up in the parking lot all excited about seeing a REAL 1963 356B GT only to find out it's a clone? Man, that's just wrong to misrepresent like that. I wonder what the guys on the 356B GT forum think about that. They must think that guy is a real turd. ;)
Mickey, I appreciate your civility in questioning Mr. Murray's "clone". And I am pleased with the civility of his response.
Look, the majority of classic Porsche owners are really nice people. They love and are very passionate about their cars. Most are accepting to us replica owners and even show some excitement when encountering one.
There will always be a few who turn their noses up. Just as there are a few replica owners that do likewise.
This isn't us against them, as we all share a common bond - the love of these little cars. When someone gets out of line it's okay to call them on it, but we shouldn't take it any further.
I feel that Mr. Murray's explanation of his clone is an excellent clarification of clone vs. replica and I accept it wholeheartedly.
It gets down to this - you own a replica for one of three reasons:
You can't afford a real one, you've had a real one and you prefer the simplicity/value a replica, you bought a replica to try out before you make the jump to the real deal.
The 356 Registry Forum is about these cars, the owners and enthusiasts. It's not about replicas. I would like to suggest that from now on, if we are to visit and post on the registry forum, we do it in a way that places us replica owners in a more positive light.
I guess it's the old adage: "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't..."
I hope I'm not coming off as one who is "above it all" as I realize that I'm guilty of stoking the fire at times. I will take my own advice to heart.
After I audit TC's tax returns...
Look, the majority of classic Porsche owners are really nice people. They love and are very passionate about their cars. Most are accepting to us replica owners and even show some excitement when encountering one.
There will always be a few who turn their noses up. Just as there are a few replica owners that do likewise.
This isn't us against them, as we all share a common bond - the love of these little cars. When someone gets out of line it's okay to call them on it, but we shouldn't take it any further.
I feel that Mr. Murray's explanation of his clone is an excellent clarification of clone vs. replica and I accept it wholeheartedly.
It gets down to this - you own a replica for one of three reasons:
You can't afford a real one, you've had a real one and you prefer the simplicity/value a replica, you bought a replica to try out before you make the jump to the real deal.
The 356 Registry Forum is about these cars, the owners and enthusiasts. It's not about replicas. I would like to suggest that from now on, if we are to visit and post on the registry forum, we do it in a way that places us replica owners in a more positive light.
I guess it's the old adage: "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't..."
I hope I'm not coming off as one who is "above it all" as I realize that I'm guilty of stoking the fire at times. I will take my own advice to heart.
After I audit TC's tax returns...
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Crap! This isn't over, is it ! ? ! ? ! ?
We went from people having no use for me and callin' me a Forum Prick, and me telling everyone to go F&%k themselves, to obscure M
We went from people having no use for me and callin' me a Forum Prick, and me telling everyone to go F&%k themselves, to obscure M
Hmmm... Theron gave Vince horns. I'm kinda wondering what he'll give you.
Terry, I agree wholeheartedly.....That is why I was so easy on these guys.....You know me, I hate to come off like some a$$hole...
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As I've mentioned in the past I have a friend that restores vintage cars, mostly Porsches. He loves my car. I've been to Section PCA meetings, ect... and I don't really have any issues with the folks at them.
It's all this crap with the restorations and transforming of cars. It goes so far that most of the time the car is less than half of it's original state. You see it alot on Barrett. Nowadays you can practically build, from the ground up, most muscule cars and most definitely an air cooled VW. The only thing that would be missing is a VIN. Granted, most of our cars aren't real 356's but they're close to the originals. I bet dollars to donuts that Henry R. Carey, or some of the other builders given the time could produce a car that is 99% spot on to the original and still without a VIN it's 'worthless'. That's my beef. So many cars sit on a frame that has been straightened, welded, dipped, patched, sectioned, ect... then covered with new OEM or salvaged parts that have been given the same treatment as the frame, and now they're worth $100K plus? I guess I'm splitting hairs when I say this but where do you draw the line? What is it that determines a "car"?
TC (FP),
Don't worry. I'm really, really bored this time of year. I'll be around to keep any and all of these never ending senseless threads going, at least until the weather turns.
It's all this crap with the restorations and transforming of cars. It goes so far that most of the time the car is less than half of it's original state. You see it alot on Barrett. Nowadays you can practically build, from the ground up, most muscule cars and most definitely an air cooled VW. The only thing that would be missing is a VIN. Granted, most of our cars aren't real 356's but they're close to the originals. I bet dollars to donuts that Henry R. Carey, or some of the other builders given the time could produce a car that is 99% spot on to the original and still without a VIN it's 'worthless'. That's my beef. So many cars sit on a frame that has been straightened, welded, dipped, patched, sectioned, ect... then covered with new OEM or salvaged parts that have been given the same treatment as the frame, and now they're worth $100K plus? I guess I'm splitting hairs when I say this but where do you draw the line? What is it that determines a "car"?
TC (FP),
Don't worry. I'm really, really bored this time of year. I'll be around to keep any and all of these never ending senseless threads going, at least until the weather turns.
A bunch of 356 folks in the Boston area left the PCA years ago because of the snobbery towards them from the 911 owners. Those people formed the TYP356 NE club, which is still going strong today and a great bunch of people.
Many of them (me included) often wear a specific tee-shirt to PCA-sponsored local events which says:
"Sure, Porsche built "Sports Cars" after 1960...
But Who Cares??"
That pretty much says it all......
Maybe we can get some of those shirts made up in time for Carlisle...
Any takers??
Many of them (me included) often wear a specific tee-shirt to PCA-sponsored local events which says:
"Sure, Porsche built "Sports Cars" after 1960...
But Who Cares??"
That pretty much says it all......
Maybe we can get some of those shirts made up in time for Carlisle...
Any takers??
Vince, Here's a good article about Karmann Ghias. A little long but it shows alot of the heritage of VW/Porsche
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=122916
Mark
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=122916
Mark
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MARK COOL IT WITH THE KARMEN GHIA
VINCE WILL HAVE US OFF THE HIGHWAY LOOKING FOR SOME DUMB PART FOR TWO HOURS LIKE THE LAST MORRO BAY TRIP
VINCE WILL HAVE US OFF THE HIGHWAY LOOKING FOR SOME DUMB PART FOR TWO HOURS LIKE THE LAST MORRO BAY TRIP
Hey GERD! The article talks about speedsters too. How a stock 72 Ghia beat a stock speedster.