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Group discount on fire suppression system

Tom BlankinshipTom Blankinship2010 Beck-Dearborn, MI
At Carlisle, I was mighty impressed with the little self-contained under hood fire suppression system that was installed in the IM's that Henry had on display inside. It was just what I was looking for when I was building my car. Attaches with two screws, halon (or equivalent). Relatively inexpensive, no muss, no fuss. I corresponded with Henry and he sent me the link to his source. I couldn't find the item on their site, so I'm currently waiting on an email back from them. That got to wondering if there wouldn't be enough interest here to try and go for a group volume discount. As soon as I have more info, I will add, but I thought I would put my feelers out for interest. I think it was around $300, but I will find out the details. A bottle inside is great, but, by the time you realize that you have an underhood fire, there will be lots of damage AND the bottle will add to the mess. This thing fires off based on heat and would put out the fire without causing further damage. Please let me know.

Tom Blankinship

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WOLFGANGWOLFGANG'89 CMC FWB, FL Supporting Member
After seeing fire damage to several fiberglass cars (and my father-in-laws '68 VW catching fire) - I'd be interested. I was looking at the manual systems that Summit Racing have (they have automatic but $200 more).

Safecraft LT5AAB - Safecraft LT Series Fire Protection Systems
Fire Suppression System, LT Series, Halon, 5 lb. Bottle, 2 Discharge Ports, 3 Spray Nozzles, Pull Type, Kit Part Number: SAF-LT5AAB $320

All the system at Summit have an add on "restricted, hazardous, ground only shipping" surcharge of $25 per box. Local guys could team up and have several sent in a single box.

DrClock used the "Fire Bottle" brand - they are $418 at Summit.

I was afraid the automatic ones might trigger with high engine heat BUT if IM uses them - I guess they are safe.

NOTE - Toasted Speedster image was one I saved from internet - thankfully not mine!

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Greg, that Safecraft system sounds exactly like what I have installed in my Spyder. One nozzle at each carb and one at the gas heater, just in case. Pull handle is in the cockpit, in front of the shifter. It was about $300 back in 2002, with shipping, in a group buy at Spyderclub. Excellent deal and good insurance if you ask me.

With a handheld extinguisher, opening the hood will add oxygen and the whole process takes time, which you don't have.
Tom BlankinshipTom Blankinship2010 Beck-Dearborn, MI
I just spoke with their VP of Engineering. He owns an IM himself and didn't know about his site. Hopefully, he will join us. The units are not on their website. There are two sizes. If he remembers correctly, Henry uses the bigger one, but he uses the smaller one in his car which is about 10 times overkill for the space. He's going to send me some info and work on group pricing.
nickhassonnickhasson
HI Tom,

After we talked about these a few weeks ago, I went and ordered one. The smaller one that is for 356's is part number 50-1020. This is what henry is using. There is another model that is for 911's that is bigger.

The bottle is 18.75 inches long with 2 inches at each end being the sensors. The bottle is only 1.5 in diameter.

It is a pricey little item. 550 shipped with sales tax since im in california. I have not mounted it yet. I'm going to do that this weekend. I can take some pictures and share.

Its halon gas and will automatically discharge at 286 degrees.
Tom BlankinshipTom Blankinship2010 Beck-Dearborn, MI
Thanks Nick. The guy from Safecraft told me that that was what Henry is using, but his is 12 inches and the nozzles point at the inboard side of the carbs. He's had in his car for 10 years. I find it amazing they they've had these for sale that long and they havn't had them on their website. Also, that he hasn't joined us here. Thanks for the price benchmark. I'll see if I can beat that :-)
JogyverJogyver
I have a Safecraft system in my car. When I was at my first only Carlisle Show I was handing out Safecraft discount cards for 15% off of one of their systems. They gave me a system at cost if I would advertise and hand out flyers.
I have three ports, one port in the front tank area, one under the dash and one in the engine compartment . It's cheap insurance .

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JogyverJogyver
Tom , My system is a remote halon type. With any engine compartment fire, once you open the rear deck and allow the oxygen increase ,Whooosh! Big blazing fire . Firemen Cory most likely knows more about this than anyone.
The remote system prevents the fire from getting out of control and also protects you . Try proping the rear hood when the engine compartment is on fire.

This is my Safecraft system
https://www.safecraft.com/products.php?category=12&master_cat=motorsports
Tom BlankinshipTom Blankinship2010 Beck-Dearborn, MI
Joe, thanks, but what I'm looking for is a product that they don't show on their site. It's a self-contained halon unit with two nozzles that mounts inside the engine compartment and is triggered by temperature. Not only do I want to extinguish a fire w/o opening the lid, I also want to extinguish it before I could discover and react to it. This thing mounts with two screws. If I have to, I'll buy it through Henry.
Tom BlankinshipTom Blankinship2010 Beck-Dearborn, MI
Rich, should be in this week. I plan to mount it in the shelf in front of the engine with the nozzles pointed at the carbs. Never heard from him again. When I finally got ahold of the company, their excuse for not putting it on the website was profit margin. I'm sorry, but they have a unique product and set pricing. Sometimes I don't think people want to make money.
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