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While driving at night my VS headlights (as well as dash lights) go dim... then a few seconds later they go back to normal.  This happens randomly while driving with the headlights on at any speed.  I can still see the road when dim but it's too dim for my liking.

 

Helpful facts:

Battery is good (over 12volts)

Charging system is good (13.xx volts)

No charging light on dash

Happens at any speed (does it at 15mph or 65mph)

 

Any ideas? 

~Christian

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Originally Posted by Barry S (Goofycat):
Originally Posted by Scott S.:

Please, it is Botts, as in E.D. Botts, from the DOT. That would be DOT's Bott's dots to you.

PS: I agree with Barry. Also check your light switch and fuse box.

Thanks for the correction, Scott. I've been misspelling that word for a long time. We used to own horses, and part of the grooming process was using a "bot" comb to remove any bot fly eggs. It's funny how stuff like that gets a permanent imprint on brain cells---especially mine. We haven't owned the horses since 1985, but the bot combs still do a good job on keeping our two old cats groomed.

 

Christian, you did say that all of your lights - including dash lights - were dimming together, no?

 

Something else you might check - before rooting around to find all of those ground points - is the cable connections at the battery. I guess you know the drill - pull the cables and clean the posts and connections even though they are on there tight.

 

I wish I had a buck for every hour I've wasted sorting out electrical gremlins that could have been saved by doing that.

Originally Posted by Sacto Mitch:

 

Christian, you did say that all of your lights - including dash lights - were dimming together, no?

 

Something else you might check - before rooting around to find all of those ground points - is the cable connections at the battery. I guess you know the drill - pull the cables and clean the posts and connections even though they are on there tight.

 

I wish I had a buck for every hour I've wasted sorting out electrical gremlins that could have been saved by doing that.

Yes, ALL the dash lights as well as headlight dim at the same time.  Then come back to life randomly...

 

I put a battery tender on the car when I first got it, back then the battery terminals was good and tight but I'll check it again.

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Last edited by Barry S (Goofycat)

I very seriously doubt that you have a poor ground problem.  From your description, a ground is not the issue.

 

How old is the headlight switch?

 

If it's an original VW switch re-used from a donor, then the internal contacts are, most likely, pitted and corroded and providing a weak, high resistance connection.  They are slide contacts and were only designed for about 20 years of use and probably have over double that by now.  Might be time for a new switch.

Originally Posted by Gordon Nichols:

I very seriously doubt that you have a poor ground problem.  From your description, a ground is not the issue.

 

How old is the headlight switch?

 

If it's an original VW switch re-used from a donor, then the internal contacts are, most likely, pitted and corroded and providing a weak, high resistance connection.  They are slide contacts and were only designed for about 20 years of use and probably have over double that by now.  Might be time for a new switch.

I always thought if it was the switch, they would be off or on... not so much dim at times.

I'll take a peek at the switch, thanks (still haven't had a chance to check the grounds)

The switch sounds plausible to me.  Mine fried a couple of weeks ago.  The dashlight dimmer had been sketchy ever since I got the car and I had an experience a year ago where the headlights wouldn't come on at all but none of the fuses had fried.  After just removing the switch and putting it back, the headlights started working again.     

 

The final straw was when I tried to turn the lights off and the parking lights stayed on.  I noticed that the bezel was pretty hot and I could tell from the smell that the magic electric smoke had been let out of something.  It was obvious when I pulled the switch that a short had melted a hole through the damn thing!

 

I replaced it with this:

 

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/c...st.cfm?ID=113941531C

  

The replacement seems to be a better quality than the switch I replaced (which had a case entirely of plastic or bakelite) and its working well.  I even think the headlights are brighter than they used to be.

 

I didn't know if the later model rectangular headlight switches (which seem easier to find online) would fit in that corner behind the dash so I didn't go that route.  Has anyone used those or an even more modern combination headlight/dimmer push-pull switch?  

 

Anyway, here's to hoping that it's just a poor ground!

 

 

Yeah, I'm using one of those rectangular, boxy switches from a 1970 VW, which shares a design from the earlier version, just with a few more contacts on it.  I had to recess tbehind the dash to allow it to fit in there and have enough of the bezel collar protrude to fit the circular trim nut on.  Within the switch is a plunger connected via the shaft to the knob.  Pull out the knob and the plunger slides back and forth across a set of bump contacts to configure the circuits for off, parking lights and headlights, depending on how far out you pull the knob.  Along with that are other contacts for the dash lights (via a rheostat connected to the shaft) and a feed for a few other circuits, some of which aren't even related to the lighting circuits, just that it was easier for the designers to pull some power off of the hot side of the switch (tabs 30, 30a and 30b) to elsewhere in the dash.

 

Put all that together and there's a lot going on with that switch.  My non-professional but experienced eye tells me the contacts are good for about 15 amps max (including the headlights themselves) and most speedsters are pulling all of that.  Now throw in the fact that the switch is probably 40 years old and way beyond it's useful life and you have to expect that the contacts will be worn out and failing, with higher resistance and dimmer lights.  

 

A poor ground will cause lights to dim immediately nearby or cause a wider set of lights to dim opposite to their normal operation (turn them on, they get dimmer.  Turn them off, they get brighter) but if several different circuits are acting in the same manner I would suspect their 12V feed through a common denominator switch.  Could it still be a ground?  Sure - but I would check the +12V side first.

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