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Hi everyone,

So the good news is; we purchased a 1992 Beck Spyder from British Columbia and have brought it into Ontario, Canada. It arrived yesterday and I can't believe how beautiful they are, (the Beck # is 171.)

The next step, certification and registration (I'm hoping some of you that have done this have some insight):

It appears that any vehicle brought into Ontario from the US or any province within Canada that carries a "Rebuild' title (which this one does) automatically gets assigned a 'Salvage' vehicle title (can't be driven), meaning it needs to get a Structural Inspection Certificate (SIC) along with a Standard Safety Certificate (SSC) to be registered and plated. The issue I think I'm going to have is the SIC, which if completed would change the title form 'Salvage' to 'Rebuild' (and can then be driven).

The SIC from what I can tell requires the car to be measured at an authorized Vehicle Inspection Station and verifies the measurements against existing vehicle manufacturer drawings, (which I don't believe currently exist). From what I've been told by two of the centers that I've been in touch with is that if they can't compare to the manufacturer drawings, they can't do the SIC.

It appears the rules changed last year but not all the information online is clear or updated. I have only found one site online that outlines the process.

I really would like to understand the process better, and if anyone has any information on how I can navigate this hurdle or knows someone who has done this for them please let me know.

Cheers,

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Q5: What happens to vehicles branded in another province when they are registered in Ontario?

Vehicle brand information from other Canadian or US jurisdictions will be carried forward when vehicles are registered in Ontario, with the exception of the "Rebuilt" brand.

Imported vehicles with a "Rebuilt" designation or its equivalent from other Canadian or US jurisdictions will be registered as "Salvage" in Ontario. These vehicles need to undergo a structural inspection to make sure they have been properly repaired before they can be branded as "Rebuilt" in Ontario.

Q9: Can I legally drive an "Irreparable" or "Salvage" vehicle on Ontario roads?

No. Vehicles branded as "Irreparable" can never be driven on Ontario roads. They can only be used for parts or scrap.

Vehicles branded as "Salvage" can't be driven on the road, but they can be towed for the purposes of repair or receiving a Safety Standards Certificate. If you want to drive a "Salvage" vehicle, it must be upgraded to "Rebuilt." This can only be done if it has passed a structural inspection and safety inspection to be registered for on-road use.

Q10: How can I change the brand on my vehicle from "Salvage" to "Rebuilt"?

To make sure your vehicle meets minimum safety standards, it must pass an inspection and be issued a Structural Inspection Certificate (SIC). You must submit the SIC and registration permit to a Ministry of Transportation licensing office. Once accepted and approved, the "Salvage" brand will be changed to "Rebuilt."

Once the "Rebuilt" brand is placed on the vehicle registration file, you must obtain a Safety Standards Certificate from any Motor Vehicle Inspection Station so the vehicle can be declared "fit." The vehicle may then be plated and legally operated (once it has been provided with a Drive Clean certificate, if required).

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Welcome to the madness Armodilo. I bought my beck from Oakville (Next to Toronto) and moved it to Quebec. A bit different but similar situation. I was reading all kind of horror stories online about registering those cars and finally it went super easy and smooth.

The structural inspection is in fact a transport Canada jurisdiction so if it was good in BC, their is no reason to be different in Ontario. I went to the inspection station in Montreal and that is what they explained to me. They checked their system and the car was "safetied" recently in Ontario so their was no point to over complicate things. They did a normal safety check (lights, brakes ... loose stuff) ad it passed no problems. Going there on a beautiful late Friday afternoon may have helped.    

 

The plating was the complex part. They requested the car to be appraised first then they charged me the taxes on the highest value (what you paid or what the appraiser estimate the car to worth). When importing a vehicle yes you need to pay GST and all that good stuff. Even if I paid those taxes in Ontario I had to pay them again in Quebec and get re-reimbursed by the Ontario gov (their is a form for that).

 

Once that non-sense was figured out I got my plate and insurance in no time and was enjoying new toy. 

 

Good luck with inspection, I would recommend going to the MTO inspection place with your paperwork and talk to them first. They are there to help.

 

jc  

Any chance you can contact a local hot rod club and seek some insider advice ? I'm in Ottawa and imported an older IM ( more than 15 years old build ) and had no problem but it was titled as an IM with appropriate paper work . got my "safetey" done at a local shop / no emissions BS required and off we go. 

I'd skate around a few "rural " Service Ontario locations and solicit info before "getting into the system".  

For instance....Ontario vehicle ownerships have only 4 digits. Dodge is Dodg on my  personal truck ownership for instance. When explaining to the local and rural DMV ( service ontario ) people that my car was an Intermeccanica with correct paperwork from the previous owner, my recent "saftey" from a recognized local repair facility and my bill of sale, they simply made a quick call to HQ...got authorization to abbreviate all to INTR and away we went. 

My make in Ontario is INTR     model is KIT  year is 83 and body type is CV which I'm guessing is convertible. 

Please keep us posted as this concussion seem to recur. 

I've had no issues getting three Intermeccanicas (two used, one new) purchased from Intermeccanica in B.C. into Ontario.  Being made in Canada, perhaps that makes a difference compared to a US made Beck.

However, if the car was registered in BC, there should be little hassle in getting it registered in Ontario.  As David says above, have a safety inspection certificate, bill of sale, and proof of insurance.  The local office may have to make a call to HQ.

 

I'm REALLLY sorry you're going through this but don't feel pregnant; I went through the same thing in Georgia . After I waited about 6 weeks after I submitted my paperwork, I received notice that I "...bought a junk car" and couldn't register it. I called the Tax department and talked to an agent and the lady told me that since my car had "assembled parts", it couldn't' be registered.  I calmly (ha!) explained to the lady that since it was a kit, or "assembled" car, it had NEW parts used in the assemblage.  She said it didn't matter.  I asked to speak to her supervisor, and I actually got to speak with a gentleman who listened and he said, "I understand" .  Let me get back to you". I received a Georgia Title, with the Manufacturer being a "2004 Porsche Speedster", then under that, it said, "Assembled Parts".

So, you may want to try a face-to-face meeting and carry ALL your paperwork with you plus, give Chris Hines a call at the Breman Indiana plant and talk to him.  He furnished me with a detailed letter explaining the building of the Speedster and the parts that were used in the construction.

Best wishes and my prayers.

Meade

Hey Meade,

We actually were quite lucky and found someone at our local ministry of transportation that let us get our structural certification done without the drawings.

It was a bit of an ordeal and we were in the same boat, thinking we'd just bought a salvage vehicle which we could never drive here in Ontario All in all,  well worth it to get this little beauty on the road. I think it took us about 1.5 months to figure out what to do and how to get it all completed with lots of phone calls, research and meetings but at the end of the day we got it done!

I just had her out for a drive -- trying to tune my Dual Webers before she goes away for the winter. Here in Ontario I can't drive from November to end of March.

Lots of projects already in the queue for the winter though.

Lane/Meade: Carey and the gang have the best customer service in the world. I didn't even purchase anything from them and they went above and beyond to get me whatever they could.

Cheers,

 

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