Anyone have an idea of manufacturer, cant find anything on it. 6 bolt sump with center bolt. Looking to find a better skid plate with lower profile bolts. Picture attached. Its mounted under a CB performance 2332cc motor. I already called them, its not theirs. They only do 8 bolt sumps. Thanks!
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Best guess would be Empi--looks like mine.
I bet Alan would know...
I tried alan, as he built it! He thought CB, but wasn't theirs. Ill check Empi as well. thanks!
EMPI 9142
WOLFGANG posted:EMPI 9142
I think from the shape it may be a 9143, but ill measure later and compare. Thank you!
There have been a number of sumps with no identifying marks on them sold over the years; the first sump I ever bought (1975? '76?) was (iIrc) a Bugpack which has no logo or anything on it, and it works just like any other. It takes the standard VW plate and drain bolt. Jaycee makes an aluminum drain plate for the standard sumps
http://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/3239.htm
and if it's designed like the ones they make for the CB sumps
http://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/jayceemagx.htm
it may be what you're looking for. Hope this helps. Al
ALB posted:There have been a number of sumps with no identifying marks on them sold over the years; the first sump I ever bought (1975? '76?) was (iIrc) a Bugpack which has no logo or anything on it, and it works just like any other. It takes the standard VW plate and drain bolt. Jaycee makes an aluminum drain plate for the standard sumps
http://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/3239.htm
and if it's designed like the ones they make for the CB sumps
http://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/jayceemagx.htm
it may be what you're looking for. Hope this helps. Al
I called CB performance, nice guy on the phone, said his stuff wont work because they only sell an 8 bolt plate not 6 bolt like mine. Going to try EMPI and see if it fits.
Look at the first link I gave you; it's the replacement for a stock 6 stud drain plate.
I like the JayCee plate because it doesn't leak and the drain-bolt is flush to the bottom of the plate and because it has a huge magnet built-into the plate which grabs stuff you don't want going through your oil-pump.
I had another brand from the previous engine builder and on trips over bumpy roads (Santa Rosa Creek) when you hit the sump, the bolt loosened, not good!
I ordered mine directly from JayCee because I wanted silver and because, as a manufacturer myself, I like directly supporting the inventors of such products.
Will Hesch posted:I like the JayCee plate because...
Do you remember if the inside of the sump plate is flat or slightly concave?
@Ndpendant Jaycee sells a 6 hole plate, (as well as the CB specific 8 hole plate version).
check out their site. Also has pictures of the underside, with magnet installed.
http://www.jayceevw.com/store/...ayCee_Mag-Plate.html
..I have the CB specific model on my CB sump. And love it. Great design.
Cheers
My sump has no drain and is a pain in the ass...next oil change will include a new sump plate with drain!
The whole idea of pulling the plate every time was to clean out the silt that settled on it, since there was no filter on the engine as delivered from Volkswagen. With a full flow filter there's no reason to remove the drain plate every oil change, so a plate with the drain plug is kind of a no-brainer. To keep ferrous material from going through the pump, a high powered magnet or 2 ( magnets out of a discarded hard drive apparently work really well) on the outside of the sump plate (I'm told) works like a charm.
Looks like the EMPI 9142 is 1.5 qts where the EMPI 9143 is 3.5 qts added capacity.
I'm pretty sure that's the sump (and drain plate) I first had on my new engine.
It holds lots of oil, but also extends down about three inches from the engine's actual sump - which in my case was about two inches too much. I kept hitting it on various solid objects until, one fateful day, I encountered a manhole cover that just plain had it in for me.
It turns out that no matter how much oil a sump contains, most of it will drain out fairly quickly if one of the bolts is forcibly ripped out.
I switched to a CB thin-line that holds about 1.5 quarts and gives nearly two inches more ground clearance. The incident made me a little obsessive about ground clearance and I then had the rear suspension raised even more. I no longer have the baddest stance on the block, but my oil has since stayed inside the engine, where it does the most good.
Sacto Mitch posted:
I no longer have the baddest stance on the block, but my oil has since stayed inside the engine, where it does the most good.
Of course not. Everyone knows that Jim has the baddest stance on the block.
I've been humbled in the presence of @MusbJim's car and have borne witness to its low stance. I think his A1 hangs even lower than the sump.
I'm convinced what carries him safely over driveway humps, road debris, and life's detritus in general is mainly good Karma.
That and he knows what he's doing!
...my A1 is currently the lowest point of contact, much better than the sump!
My Berg extractor is definitely the lowest point of contact, especially the rear end of the tips. Really wondering if it will pass the new Massachusetts vehicle inspection regs when I go in for my inspection. I have a semi-stock VW "Turbo" muffler with the typical 4-tube exhaust that I'm thinking of installing for the inspection, just to be safe.
Those big sumps are way too low.
I'm a fan of the CB thinline 1.5 quart sump. It's flush with the bottom of the car. I modified mine to lose the filter CB provided as I have full flow and external filter. I installed a pickup tube extension with both clamp and JB weld to seal it.
I also machined the CB cover for a flush drain bolt but JayCee makes really nice stuff. I'd buy theirs if I did it again.
And may I add that cow magnets work really well to grab metal.
Yeah, all you have to do is attach the magnet to the pickup tube with a couple of hose clamps and you're done. Get in there once every few years (when you're doing an oil change) and remove anything clinging to the magnet and button it up. This length is perfect for a 1-1/2 qt. deeper sump pickup - cheap, too:
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_d...zdidLOoaAhpLEALw_wcB
Any "Tractor Supply" or farm supply place will have them.
Well I just learned several new facts, both mechanical and agricultural, right there.
From Cows Ice Cream - Our fav on our bicycle trip across Prince Edward Island.
edsnova posted:Well I just learned several new facts, both mechanical and agricultural, right there.
I wish I could say the same, Ed.
I grew up in the big city, attended an urban university, and studied the electrical laws of Ohm, Kirchoff, and Maxwell, but I still don't understand why magnets stick to cows.
Ok, that's really funny Mitch! For those city boys (which I am as well and didn't know either!) that want to know, read about Cows and Magnets. It's in the middle of the paragraph
It's because of their "Moognatism".
Still makes no sense to me.
All magnets have a north and a south pole, and there are no cows at either place.
ALB posted:Ok, that's really funny Mitch! For those city boys (which I am as well and didn't know either!) that want to know, read about Cows and Magnets. It's in the middle of the paragraph
now that's funny!
I think that if I were a cow, and had a piece of barbed-wire in my stomach, I'd probably want it to stay right there instead of attaching to another hunk of metal that would certainly feel un-comfy exiting my posterior...
City folk. God love 'em.
Will Hesch posted:ALB posted:Ok, that's really funny Mitch! For those city boys (which I am as well and didn't know either!) that want to know, read about Cows and Magnets. It's in the middle of the paragraph
now that's funny!
I think that if I were a cow, and had a piece of barbed-wire in my stomach, I'd probably want it to stay right there instead of attaching to another hunk of metal that would certainly feel un-comfy exiting my posterior...
Apparently leaving it in there (and letting the pieces build up) makes them sick, so...
@Stan Galat- Yeah, Stan, we're city folk and not wise in all the ways of the world, but that's why we're friends- so you'll take care of our cows when the zombie apocolypse hits!
ALB posted:Will Hesch posted:ALB posted:Ok, that's really funny Mitch! For those city boys (which I am as well and didn't know either!) that want to know, read about Cows and Magnets. It's in the middle of the paragraph
now that's funny!
I think that if I were a cow, and had a piece of barbed-wire in my stomach, I'd probably want it to stay right there instead of attaching to another hunk of metal that would certainly feel un-comfy exiting my posterior...
Apparently leaving it in there (and letting the pieces build up) makes them sick, so...
@Stan Galat- Yeah, Stan, we're city folk and not wise in all the ways of the world, but that's why we're friends- so you'll take care of our cows when the zombie apocolypse hits!
I'll take care of the zombies for you Al.
I'm doing the zombies, Robert (I've watched the Walking Dead and that part looks like fun!) It's the cows this city boy don' know nothin' about...
Maybe the lesson here, whether you're a city boy, a country boy, or a cow, is that life is a little like owning a Speedster - sooner or later, someone from someplace you've never heard of will have just the fix for what ails you.
