How do you make it rain in California?... buy a speedster.

Looking good, Ted. Those wheels are killer! What size tire are you running on the back?

Thanks!  185 65 R15 Pirelli. The Techno wheels are 5" wide with a different offset than Mangles. I have 3/8" spacers on the rear to bump em out a bit. I'm running 1/2 spacers up front (behind the drum skins) to fill everything out more.

So... I decided to install my breather box...

Going back together!

Back together. Running good. Need to put the decklid back on and clean er up!

Feels good to see light at the end of the tunnel, doesn't it??

 

       
       

Yup! Thinking of calling Tiger and see if he can build me a bursch style exhaust. The Sidewinder is cool, but I think I want something different. Do any of you members have the Sebring or bursch style exhaust?

Great work!

one thing about the exhausts: If you make a decision for the busch style system, you have to know, you will lose to 100% the original boxer sound.

it sounds like a usual four zylinder :-(

 

What about this on: it has a real great sound, it is really well done, V2A, big pipes and it has a connector for a lamda-tool

 

for me the best choice ever! ;-)  

 

http://shop.vintagespeed.com.t...sc.12/category.35/.f

 

http://www.vintagespeed.com.tw...austsystem-main.html

 

P.s. If you are intrested, dont take the "superflow version" its in my oinion too sporty sound, i better like the usual one, also here ist the sound quiet sporty...

Jan Peter,

 

I may be wrong, but I'd guess you might be in an overwhelming minority regarding the desirability of the "original boxter sound".

 

Most guys can't run away fast enough.

Ok, showing my lack of knowledge what is a 'bursch' style exhaust? And what is a 'Sebring' style exhaust? Pics would be helpful

       
       

As I understand it, Sebring & Bursch are manufacturers who make header / extractor style exhaust systems which were popular in racing circles. One such exhaust was a Sebring/Bursch style exhaust where there were to smaller mufflers on each side and one center oval opening.



The other style I like is the two pipes exiting in middle / center.

Upon more investigation, it looks like these hang even lower than my A1. Going to have to pass.

Jan,
The vintage speed stuff isn't a merged header. Any performance concerns?

Ted

FWIW, even though the Sebring exhaust is technically "merged" (at the tip), the primaries are about 9-1/2 miles long.

 

The primaries on a true "merged" header like an A1 "Lowdown" are all the same, and just about the perfect length... but the collector sticks out the back and the exhaust options all look "less than elegant".

 

The primaries on an A1 Sidewinder are too long, and not even close to the same length. The fact is, they fit in the car better, and the performance is acceptable.

 

The Sebring's primaries are even longer. Way too long to be optimal, and the exhaust utilizes a really inelegant collector. A well designed header brings the pipes into the collector in phase with the firing order. no such attempt is made with a Sebring.

 

As much as I like Vintagespeed's shifters, the exhausts are just a better version of the stockers. They are more free-flowing, but don't use firing pulses to "extract" gasses through other cylinders. That's what makes a real header magic- the fact that beyond just reducing back-pressure, it actually creates a vacuum on the exhaust valves. I have a chart somewhere that shows how much, but the effect of the header is actually greater than the draw of the falling piston on the intake stroke (that's why valve overlap works). You get none of that with a setup like Vintagespeed's.

 

There's no free lunch, unless you could move the engine forward to the point that a short-primary merged header with a long collector and the attendant exhaust bend would fit under the apron. An IM comes close, but not enough.

 

I tried. I ended up with a Sidewinder.

A1's weren't around when I originally built up Pearl's exhaust system, and there really weren't many (like three) that were truly "extractors" and one of those was from Europe.  

 

From my really old dune Buggy days and even older Motorcycle days, I really wanted a true extractor system, so I eventually ended up with a Berg extractor, even though I ran up against all that stuff Stan mentions....particularly, how it hangs a bit too low and sticks out a bit too far in the rear AND has those two, big, honkin' mufflers hanging out there under the rear valence.  

 

That said, the Zoomies are the right diameter with good, equal length, their positions into the collector are good, the collector is gradual (making it a bit long, but what'cha-gonna-do?) and they even separate the output of the collector, anticipating the dual mufflers.

 

And, MAN!  Does it ever work GREAT!  It fit in with the rest of the system (heads, ports, cam, induction - the whole Enchilada) and puts the icing on the cake, so to speak, for the mid-range torque I was always looking for.   If I was going for a system for the track (lots of higher-end power and more pull to cool the heads, etc.) I would not necessarily have opted for this system but, for the street?  For me, it's been perfect.

There is a verry special thing about the vintagespeed exhausts!!!

The four lines of the four cylinders are the same length!  The lines of the cylinder 2 and 4 make a longer way inside of the muffler. Thats the special thing of the vintage.

As I know vintage is the ony one who does it this way. Our most famous type 1 builder here in Germany (we call him the pope of type1)   http://www.rbernauer.de  makes his biggest performance with them. In his opinion it's the only exhaust that combines performance with original 356 Sound

 

 

Stan is right. I have a Sebring-ish exhaust on my Spyder. Mid-engine placement allows extra room for the exhaust. Mine works well, but I've never measured the lengths. I do know that my motor was dyno'ed and jetted with the exhaust I have on the car. You should see Lenny's Tangerine Racing custom-made on his type4 Spyder. It is pretty damn good.

You guys are a bounty of info! Where would I be without you guys?



Bring on the 4th of July!  I wish that flag wasn't hung up on the light pole.

Jan,

 

I don't mean to argue with you.

 

The Vintagespeed exhaust is well made, and the primaries are the same length. But they don't come together into a single collector, so they don't "pull" on the other pipes. I don't seem to be explaining it in a way you understand, so I would point you to A G Bell's book "Four Stroke Performance Tuning" later renamed "Modern Engine Tuning" (click the link for an online PDF). Go to Chapter 6 and start reading- I did about 5 years back, and ending up reading it 4 or 5 times. I still have a hard-copy of Chapter 6 in the night-stand. I think this stuff is about as cool as it gets. I'm weird that way.

 

Danny,

 

Yeah. Anything Tangerine Racing makes is amazing. The Tangerine Tri-Y is the best kept secret in this hobby- an absolute work of art, but unfortunately unavailable for Type 1. I contacted Chris a few years back about making me a custom one, but I ended up just building and exhaust (then another, then another).

 

If I were doing this again, I'd just build a 2.8-ishL Type 4 with a 1-5/8" Tangerine Tri-Y, and be done with it.

No, never argue ;-) we are on the same side of live ;-))

I know about these things, on my Buggy I have got the super competition from CSP.

And I know, the concept of the 4 in 1 systems might be the best. 

But I`m quiet sure this makes only a difference, when we talk about real perfomance engines with hot cams and big overlappings. like Engle 130 a.s.o.

for the 1915 with it`s "close to stock" cam. A free flowting system like the Vintage`s one is more than enough, I think...

 

For me there are some things that also matter a lot : optic and sound. And there is a lot of it in this exhaust :-)

 

One more thing about the Vintage: Alwas, when a Speedster passes my way, I have firstly a look on the exhaust. If i see a VW bug style exhaust with it`s ending in the wrong position, I know, its a Replica.

 

The exhaust pipes and endings of an original 365 are in a much lower Position.

The Vintagespeed is especially builded for 356 Replicas and brings the tailpipe in the right position.

 

Cheers Jan

'Murica...
Sorry about the brown California lawn.

LOL LOL   'DONT FROWN ON BROWN"!!!   HMMMM  I water mine with Guinness Its as green as Irland lol  .....   funny thing is you guys are getting our water  Thanks for protesting Ted!!   You need to put a sign up that reads " GIVE THE CENTRAL VALLEY IT'S WATER BACK, LOOK AT MY LAWN WE DONT NEED IT" lol lol   

 

Or AS Terry Nuckles Lawn care guide (Circa 1963) would suggest.. spray it with

 "LAWN GREEN KRYLON"  

 

tebs    

    It never fails...About the time my 'enthusiasm & energy' begins to slip into apathy somebody posts a photo of magnificent BLACK SPEEDSTER that recharges all my madness batteries!...Such as Ignacio's black VS, or his 'cousin in Samoa' sporting those magnificent wheels on his black speedster...and now Ted's smooth iconic example of a head turning/thumbs up black speedster!...I'm able to even overlook the dust on Wolfgang's, and am looking forward to when he rolls it out of his barn/garage into the Florida sunlight for us all to admire.

 

   Don't get me wrong. I don't disparage any speedster clothed in any color, but black pushes all my buttons!...An analogy would be the radiant image of a lady in a sultry black gown adorned with just the right, and tasteful, coordinates. She simply stands out from the crowd!    

 

        

So, funny story... When I first started looking I was dead sent against black. Not sure what happened

Now I can't imagine anything else.

I wanted Black. Many years ago, I had a Datsun 260z, Black.  To make a long story short, the CFO said no black.  Oh well the next one...Black.

 

Ted, your car, with your mirror finish, and  Thooose wheels !!! Good for you!!

 

Art

 

 

Carl, that's why it's called "the little black dress"

True story:

 

Pearl started out in Black Gel Coat.  Same interior and everything, just black with black-spoked Fuchs.  Looked a lot like Wild Bill's "Blackie".

 

Then, about the time I was getting her bodywork finished, the guy in the next office shows up for work in a new, '99 Audi in Pearlescent White.  That did it for me.

 

 

 

 

Quick, you eastern SOC'ers......

 

Where was this picture taken??

I know this may sound a little weird.  I am also a fan of black.  My car is Mercedes beige/gray.  I'm thinking about removing all trim pieces, essentially outlawing the car, painting it black but leaving some beige/gray gumballs to match the interior.  Would go nicely with a hard tonneau that I picked up.  My wife says the beige/gray color is the only thing she likes about the car.  Maybe just a beige/gray outlaw.  Hmm.  I need a bada$$ look to go with my car's new found power.

How can you not like black?  On the other hand daily washing comes with it, Griot's random orbital polisher needs to be used for swirl marks more often...   Ray

Phil, better not change the color or you may end up sleeping in the Speedster...LOL.

You could still 'outlaw' the beige-gray and paint on black roundels instead...then you'd both be sort of happy.

Yes I've thought about that too.  Does anyone now if Carey does fiberglass and paint?  Indiana is a lot closer than B.C.  Car is perfect mechanically.  Yes I know it needs a turbocharger...but besides that.

Carey most definitely does. They mold the Fiberglas on site in Indiana and have their own in-house body & paint shop.

> On Jul 7, 2015, at 10:46 AM, SpeedsterOwners.com <alerts@hoop.la> wrote:
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Thanks Tom.  Sticking with beige/gray without gumballs probably the way to go.  Beige/gray hard tonneau with dark brown leather, though I have thought about painting the tonneau black.  My wheels are powdercoated black.  Thinking about black Outlaw script with black fog lights.  Semiblackification.  Oh.  My hardtop is black.

Carey also does classic Porsche restorations, so you know the paint work has to be good.

Because I live where bugs go to settle down and raise their little bug families. Bugs who don't live here get together and have little bug trade-shows and conferences here, and come to vacation from other places. Once they're here, they despair of living and feel the need to end it all all over the front of any vehicle driving more than 5 mph.

 

Also, we have a highway department dedicated to covering the earth under a thin belt of cinders. Years form now when archaeologists dig up Illinois, they'll find a 1/2" thick layer of cinders on top of crumbling asphalt. I'm pretty sure the DOT uses the entire yearly allocation for road upkeep on cinders. They spread them pretty much all winter, then make a half-hearted attempt to sweep them up in August or so. I've got a spare lot where the township pushes the snow from our cul-de-sac- every spring there is at least 6" of cinders in the ditch. I'm thinking of saving them for my own 1930s track and field stadium. 

 

I suppose the theory is that eventually they will deposit into the potholes, but we're a good application of tar away from the 'ol tar and chip asphalt roadway. I actually did this to fill a big hole in front of my driveway. I just took a broom out and swept the cinders into the hole, then got some blacktop sealant and dumped it over the whole mess. It was the only improvement (besides our daily application of cinders from December to May) that my street has ever received.

 

So yeah, black is cool, but not for me. 

Gordon, 

 

In front of the old Carlisle hotel - not sure what year.  

Close......In Carlisle, in front of the Ramada, just outside of the Portico and looking towards the big Truck Stop.  

 

I'm guessing around 2006 or 2007, photo taken by Nick Wolwolnia (deep blue IM from Toronto) and one of my favorite photos with my son.

Well, that was fun!

Borrowed Theron's welder and relocated the parking brake up under the dash this weekend.  Need to order a new carpet kit and a few springs, but it's almost done.

Learned to weld (*poorly*) and copied Chris's bell crank brackets from his outlaw. Used an original 356 handbrake and bell crank for the rest of it. Need to relocate the headlight harness and hook up some springs to take up the slack when the handle is at rest. I'm Impressed with how smoothly it works.



The carpet is pretty threadbare and trashed under the ebrake boot. I'll order a new kit from Henry.

Anybody need a black ebrake boot and a chrome ebrake handle?

Looking good Ted, hope it holds the car better than mine 

Thanks! I have 4 places to adjust the uptake of slack. I'm hopeful that I can make it work. Carpet kit is 4-6 weeks out. Gauges are 8-10 weeks out!!

Patience is a virtue.

Ted

Very cool, Ted! I had no idea you were planning on relocating your e brake.

I guess that puts the kabosh on drifting, eh?

Nice job on the E-brake fabrication, Ted!