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TRP posted:
*LongFella posted:
TRP posted:

Now I need to buy my old 356 oil filter housing back from Longfella so I can further dress up my motor!

I owe you considering how seamless it was to get the two engines several months ago. As of now, the 356 oil filter housing is nicely wrapped and stowed away. I thought I had an idea of what I "would like" for an engine, but it keeps changing and I would rather NOT let parts sit around if someone can use them. I'll be out of town for a couple of weeks, but I'll pack it up and ship it your way when I get back

You do have a nice little empty spot to attach it to your fan shroud

:thumbs-up: Please let me know what I owe you for the oil filter and bracket.

You don't owe me anything. I'll try and get it packed up tonight and sent your way tomorrow. If I can't, it will be a few weeks and sent when I return...

*LongFella posted:
TRP posted:
*LongFella posted:
TRP posted:

Now I need to buy my old 356 oil filter housing back from Longfella so I can further dress up my motor!

I owe you considering how seamless it was to get the two engines several months ago. As of now, the 356 oil filter housing is nicely wrapped and stowed away. I thought I had an idea of what I "would like" for an engine, but it keeps changing and I would rather NOT let parts sit around if someone can use them. I'll be out of town for a couple of weeks, but I'll pack it up and ship it your way when I get back

You do have a nice little empty spot to attach it to your fan shroud

:thumbs-up: Please let me know what I owe you for the oil filter and bracket.

You don't owe me anything. I'll try and get it packed up tonight and sent your way tomorrow. If I can't, it will be a few weeks and sent when I return...

Ah.. take your time. There is no rush.

*LongFella posted:

Look what I found

Text me your address and I'll have it in the mail tomorrow

Whoa! Hello my old friend!  Thanks!

The fun guy in the big brown truck brought me my new Vintage Speed 5 speed shifter! It's a spittin image of the 4 speed I currently have installed in the car today. Anthony suggested asking Vintage Speed if they would upgrade my existing shifter to a Berg 5.  They said no problem and offered to do it for a nominal cost: $60.00 plus 30.00 shipping. If you add in another $20.00 for a shift knob it'd be about $110.00.  A pretty good price really. The turn around time was about 3 weeks.

Because I was ordering the air cleaners already I sprung for the $190.00 a picked up a brand new one already converted to 5 speed.  I'll simply sell the 4 speed version I already have.  (I'm getting quite a pile of used parts over here... starting to look like Troy/Alan's shop!)

IMAG1368

I also received an upgraded clutch pedal shaft. My clutch shaft has nearly 40 years on it. The clutch cable hoop end was starting to get hung up in the hook. Creating a funky 'click' when I pushed the pedal in. This part gets rid of the hook and replaces it with a hardened steel shaft and bearing / bushing for the clutch hoop to ride in. No more hook. No more hoping the clutch cable doesn't fall off when you release pressure on the cable! 

IMAG1369

Made by Classic Bug parts. The same folks who brought us the throttle pedal upgrade I spoke of a while back.IMAG1370

Fun stuff!

Ted

 

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Figured out the clutch issue. Pulled the clutch cable. Naturally it's fine. The clutch arm is cracked right at the outer end of the clutch hook shaft and the clutch tube broke free at the front mount. I also found that good old Al cut a 4x6" access hole in the passenger side of the tunnel.  That was bitter sweet.

I'll take the arm to get welded tomorrow. I will need to figure out what to do about the clutch tube.  I can't imagine I'll find a lot of people willing to try welding that sucker back on.

At least now I know what the clicking noise was. Must be something about the way I drive. I broke the pedal on my 71 Ghia in the exact same spot thirty years ago.

 

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Okay -- the parts are all in for the 5 speed. Now I need to make a decision on the gearing. 

The first big question is:
Do I go with a Weddle Minshaft Or stick with the newly minted one from Berg? I've read a lot of people say they don't understand why people build a 5k box and cheap out on the main shaft. Is using a Berg shaft really being cheap? Is it really a weak link? The Weddle shaft and new 1st and 2nd adds another bunch of cash to the cost. I'd still need 3rd and 4th regardless. 

Depending on the shaft I'm at a loss of what gearing to use.  Tires: 185/65/r15

Weddle: (3.75/2.25/?/?/89)

Berg: (3.80/2.06/?/?/89)

Driving: I typically spend 50% of the time on the freeway driving to or from the office. The other time I could be blasting around the curvy back roads of the bay area. Driving roads like we see on our SLO outings. I have no desire for a big top end. keeping up with freeway traffic (75/80) is a must. Acceleration is more important than top speed.  I would say, I can be hard on accelerations and may dump the clutch and roast 'em from time to time.

I know Stan said he wished he stuck with the stock mainshaft. Others say go with a complete weddle stack. 

I'm just confused (again)

Terry - what do you run again?

Thanks,
Ted

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Ted, the berg shaft is FINE for your application. the weddle is only available in a 375 first gear. if you want to waste the money on that i will give you 50.00 for the berg one you have. I  thought you have a 3.78 first with a 2.06 second. and the third and fourth should be a 1.48 and 1.14 with either the .82 or .89 depending on tire size. don't overthink it. what you got will be fine.

If you're constantly driving it like a street racer and acceleration from a stand still is important, then you'll really like the Weddle 3.75/2.25

I could go on (and on and on) about the benefits about each mainshaft, but the question is- what did you send to Berg's? The mainshaft is one of the major pieces (the other being the pinion shaft) that causes the months long hold up, so you should have a modified mainshaft in your posession- correct? If you change mainshafts at this point you'll be waiting for months again. 

I believe Terry runs 3.78/2.06/1.48/1.18/0.89 in his 5 speed. He talked about the shorter 3-4 shift being more fun when canyon carving, and not caring about the slightly longer 4-5 spacing. I had suggested (a few pages back) 3.78 (or 3.80- whatever you sent Berg)/2.06/1.48/1.12/0.89, which isn't that much different; either will be a pile of fun, as you can see below.

http://calc.teammfactory.com/i...26+2&trannytype=

You talked about being able to do 75-80 on the freeway, and the only criticism of both gearing examples above is that 3500 in 5th happens at about 74 mph, so if this is one of the non-negotiable parameters, then you need a .82 5th gear which will allow 80 at 3500rpm. A couple different ways to go- in the first example,

http://calc.teammfactory.com/i...26+2&trannytype=

the recovery rpm for each gear gets higher (as it should) a little more evenly. Otoh, the 2-3 and 3-4 shifts in example 2 are again quite short (I've kept 1.48 in 3rd and 1.12 in 4th so on the street it will be a blast!), but now the 4-5 split isn't quite as tight, although the recovery rpm is still almost 200 higher than stock 3-4 gears. I don't think the 2 are so different that (no matter which you pick) you'll wonder what the other is like.

Given the specified highway speed, I don't think you should consider the 3.75/2.25 mainshaft set- it spaces 3, 4 and 5 out too much. I have more to say- check your pm box. Al

PS- This is what your mainshaft will look like- (yours will just be a little longer)- 

mainshaft and gears- late 3.78

 

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TRP posted:

 

I know Stan said he wished he stuck with the stock mainshaft. Others say go with a complete weddle stack. 

Al is always going to advocate for the drag-race gearing, because he can't help himself.

I've alway thought even the stock first gear was tall to the point of uselessness (unless a guy is going with a 3.44 R/P, and then it's pretty hard to beat). With the 3.44, it'll provide more than enough "snap" to dump it and roast 'em, but not so much that you end up like me with a very, very long 1st (almost like starting out in 2nd). The main-stack I've got goes pretty far in the other direction (longer, not shorter), and was fine with a 3.88 R/P, but it's too far for a 3.44.

I'd never, under any circumstances, get a taller first gear-- unless I was a drag racer. It's just not what these cars were made to be.

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