Sorry if this questions is dumb, but does anyone know if hydraulic values are possible on a Type I 1776 cc, and does anyone have hydraulic values on their 1776 cc engine. Thanks. Oz
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Sorry if this questions is dumb, but does anyone know if hydraulic values are possible on a Type I 1776 cc, and does anyone have hydraulic values on their 1776 cc engine. Thanks. Oz
Yes hydraulic lifters can be done on 1776 but a negative side to them is that if one lifter goes south or gets a bit of dirt into it, ..the entire engine has to be torn down and the case split to get to the bad lifter. Best to stay with the 3,000 mile valve adjustment .....Alan M
Oz I would stay away from the Hydraulic if you have a choice. I'm not a real gear head but think most would agree.
Dick
Dick
Oz, not a dumb question. Many of us on this forum have asked the same question. The simple answer is don't do it. Hydraulic valves create more problems then they cure.
Ron
Ron
Thanks guys, I had been talking to a buddy who suggested I opt for them and tell Henry to incorporate them in my new speedster. Based on your recommendations, I will keep with the stock setup. Value adjustments every 2K to 3K will give me something to do, and hopefully keep me out of trouble.
Thanks for your input. Just a another note, this is one of the best forum sites I have had the pleasure to be involved with. I get great information just scanning the different topics and feedback is great. Thanks again. Oz
Thanks for your input. Just a another note, this is one of the best forum sites I have had the pleasure to be involved with. I get great information just scanning the different topics and feedback is great. Thanks again. Oz
Keep it solid lift..
NOOoooo....! I HAVE hydraulic lifters, since the guy I bought from put them in, and have a mysterious "TIC-TIC-TIC" from the motor to deal with. Hopefully, I'll find them drastically out of adjustment, but with my luck...
Anyone want to advise on how to work on them, since the seller's later comments included," I don't know that much about how they work..."
-Tim
Anyone want to advise on how to work on them, since the seller's later comments included," I don't know that much about how they work..."
-Tim
It seemed for awhile mechanics were willing to use the motors with hydraulic lifters in their "builds". But recently it seems the jury is coming in very much opposed to their use in the VW air cooled build. Stay solid.
tim, clean oil is the best medicine.
Tim:
Hydraulic Lifters: Are you SURE you have them or are you just taking someone's word who, admittedly, didn't really know a lot about his engine. Take it to a trusted aircooled VW mechanic and ask him/her to take a look and tell you for sure what's in there. ALL aircooled VW engines "tick" - it comes with the design - Hell, some of them are really loud, and some of them not so, but they all have the ticking valve noise.
There isn't really any adjustment with Hydraulic lifters - once they pump up, the engine's oil pressure keeps the lifter up against the push rod with just enough pressure to be "comfortable" to the valve train (all the stuff needed to make the valves open and close). Valve clearance is held at that "optimal" by oil pressure and is automatically adjusted, as it were.
Sounds pretty good, right? But there have been a lot of stories of failed lifters in the Mexican engines that have hydraulic's and that's where the cautions come from.
Once in a while one of them won't pump up as far as the others, or has a bit of crud in a lifter oil passage or whatever. When that happens, you sometimes get one (or more) lifter(s) that "tick". In that regard, they may sound like "normal" solid lifters more or less out of adjustment.
Since there is nothing to adjust with hydraulic lifters, you have to live with it. If it gets REALLY bad and one or more is REALLY loud, then the only cure is to pull the engine completely apart down to the crank and cam (that's where the lifters are on these engines) and replace the faulty lifter(s). Because it's such a PITA to pull the engine case apart and put it back together, engine builders usually replace ALL the lifters at the same time - what the heck, there's only eight in there and they're relatively cheap.
gn
Hydraulic Lifters: Are you SURE you have them or are you just taking someone's word who, admittedly, didn't really know a lot about his engine. Take it to a trusted aircooled VW mechanic and ask him/her to take a look and tell you for sure what's in there. ALL aircooled VW engines "tick" - it comes with the design - Hell, some of them are really loud, and some of them not so, but they all have the ticking valve noise.
There isn't really any adjustment with Hydraulic lifters - once they pump up, the engine's oil pressure keeps the lifter up against the push rod with just enough pressure to be "comfortable" to the valve train (all the stuff needed to make the valves open and close). Valve clearance is held at that "optimal" by oil pressure and is automatically adjusted, as it were.
Sounds pretty good, right? But there have been a lot of stories of failed lifters in the Mexican engines that have hydraulic's and that's where the cautions come from.
Once in a while one of them won't pump up as far as the others, or has a bit of crud in a lifter oil passage or whatever. When that happens, you sometimes get one (or more) lifter(s) that "tick". In that regard, they may sound like "normal" solid lifters more or less out of adjustment.
Since there is nothing to adjust with hydraulic lifters, you have to live with it. If it gets REALLY bad and one or more is REALLY loud, then the only cure is to pull the engine completely apart down to the crank and cam (that's where the lifters are on these engines) and replace the faulty lifter(s). Because it's such a PITA to pull the engine case apart and put it back together, engine builders usually replace ALL the lifters at the same time - what the heck, there's only eight in there and they're relatively cheap.
gn
Tic, tic, tic....what does that remind you of?
Ron
Ron
Install a Grendae in the valve cover- same difference as Hydros-
Ron
Tic tic tic is usually followed by a slightly muffled BOOM! Seriously see my above post. I have spoke witha nunmber of individuales that have had bad luck with Hydos...Jake say's it best!
Alan
Tic tic tic is usually followed by a slightly muffled BOOM! Seriously see my above post. I have spoke witha nunmber of individuales that have had bad luck with Hydos...Jake say's it best!
Alan
...Well, I'll tic away then...Thanks for the advice!
-Tim
-Tim