Not mine but what a deal for about $34,100 !
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Ron Leonard’s car. End of an era.
At current conversion rates $29K CAD translates to about $22.3K USD.
Alan Merklin posted:Not mine but what a deal for about $34,100 !
Alan: It's a Canadian registered car at $29,000 Canadian. It might be able to be registered in the U.S.
Yes, it's Ron Leonard's car, who has always been a great friend and supporter of Intermeccanica. Being in Vancouver, Henry was always able to look after it as needed.
Almost sold.
And the windshield is not cracked..yet. 
Great deal.
What a deal!
Alan Merklin posted:Not mine but what a deal for about $34,100 !
Al, you converted in the wrong direction. It's $29,000 CDN which converts to just over $22,000 US
Not a bad price at all for a mid mileage car showing a bit of wear.
You're right, I was just figuring in a commission :~)
Seems to be an awful lot of Speedsters suddenly on the market. Summer must be over 
Curious about the engine. dry sumped 2.2? Or 2110 as described? Both descriptions in the ad.
Wish I had the $ cuz I'd buy that right up.
Pict link I drove that car some time ago. Yes, it does seem like the end of an era. I think, you would have to spend some to get it up to shape and I think there is some damage on the door edge on one door. Using USA$ your away to the races if you can bring it in.
If your looking for a driver with patina your good, if your OCD, you could get pretty deep changing everything to make it new. 
Just saying... i
@David Stroud IM Roadster D A Roadster with roll up windows... are you tempted David? You might be able to get in for not to much on the swap...
Sale pending....
Hope he has a good set of metric wrenches. :-)
This is a no-brainer, rock solid deal for someone in Canada. Would be much, much tougher to get it registered in the states. Ask me how I know.....
-=theron
Theron posted:This is a no-brainer, rock solid deal for someone in Canada. Would be much, much tougher to get it registered in the states. Ask me how I know.....
-=theron
Please elaborate, Theron.
I've imported cars from England and almost had one stuck. The problem with the Intermeccanica is you might not be able to prove that it meets the safety, bumper and threft prevention standards for it's year since there are no recorded standards or labels for it. If you get it across the border, you have the problem of certifying it for smog. I'm guessing it was built for the Canadian market which means it came with an engine and drive train. Intermeccanica can verify. If it didn't come with the engine supplied, it will be easier to register in many states and Intermeccanica can issue a certificate which reads it wasn't purchased with an engine.
https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basi...export/importing-car
-=theron
American registered IMs have the engine and transmission installed in the States. Canadian ones are of course installed in Canada. Henry can only sell his new cars to the U.S. without engine and transmission.
He has the drive train installed in the U.S. for his U.S. destined cars.
As for the rest (safety, bumper, etc.) I have no idea. I do know that 'kit cars' from the States can be brought into Canada if they are fifteen years old/er.
I was told yesterday by the US Border side that any motor vehicle made in Canada over 25 years ago can be imported into the US without any safety, smog, import regs / restrictions. I suspect however, that while it can be imported...correct registration state by state might be a another issue.
Here is the act ... in Canada. Link
Essentially 15 years and PROOF of building it 15 years before. Also you cannot change the body of an original car with a Different Body Kit unless again 15 years I believe.
Ray
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Replica Cars importing to Canada.
91. Replica cars are treated as vehicles at importation. As they lack the necessary certification to comply with CMVSS, they are not admissible for importation unless they were assembled 15 or more years ago (or a bus manufactured prior to January 1, 1971) and the importer can submit proof of age (e.g., a registration document.
92. When no identification markings whatsoever exist on a vehicle to validate the age-exempt status of the vehicle, the vehicle does not qualify for importation using the “non-regulated due to age” exemption and is inadmissible.
93. The most common examples of inadmissible replica vehicles are:
- (a) vehicles modified into hot rods, street rods using a donor body and chassis where no identification markings whatsoever exist on the vehicle that can be used to validate the age-exempt status of the donor chassis with the paperwork being supplied by the importer;
- (b) vintage replica vehicles including vehicles built from kits, where no identification markings whatsoever exist on a vehicle that can be used to validate the age-exempt status of the vehicle with the paperwork being supplied by the importer.
Kit Cars
94. Kit cars whether fully assembled or unassembled are treated as vehicles at importation. As they lack the necessary certifications to comply with CMVSS, they are not admissible for importation unless they were assembled 15 or more years ago and the importer can submit proof of age (e.g., a registration document). The age of a kit car is determined by the final date of assembly of the kit, not the model year it replicates.
Shipments of Individual Vehicle Parts
97. The MVSA does not regulate shipments of individual parts, with the exception of tires, child car seats and booster seats.
98. When a border services officer examines a parts shipment (or series of related parts shipment), he or she will assess if the shipment(s) contains enough parts to meet the definition of a vehicle under the MVSA, or of an incomplete vehicle under the MVSR’s definition. If it is unclear or it becomes evident that the shipment may contain enough parts to meet the definition of a vehicle or incomplete vehicle, the shipment is to be denied entry or detained until further clarification from TC is obtained allowing for its release.
Modified Vehicles (Includes Returning CMVSS Vehicles)
85. Once modified, other than having general repairs or routine maintenance, a vehicle no longer maintains its original factory issued certification. This certification is required for importation into Canada. When modified vehicles are being imported into Canada, the importer must provide evidence from the vehicle modifier or final stage manufacturer that the modified vehicle complies with all applicable standards. Vehicles without this evidence will be denied entry to Canada. For example:
- (a) a motorcycle converted into a trike;
- (b) a cargo van converted into a camper;
- (c) adding a suspension lift kit to a vehicle;
- (d) adapting a vehicle for disabled access;
- (e) lengthening a vehicle;
- (f) re-fitting a vehicle with a different body kit.
86. This also applies to Canadian certified vehicles modified in the US and returning to Canada. Where an individual temporarily exports a Canadian specification vehicle for the purpose of having modifications or alternations done to the vehicle, there may be issues with regards to maintaining the vehicle’s CMVSS certification. Depending on the nature and extent of the modifications, the vehicle may be required to be certified by the company that performed the modifications in order to ensure it still complies with CMVSS. Where the modifications to a vehicle are not certified and no longer comply with CMVSS, then the vehicle will no longer be considered a Canadian specification vehicle and will not quality for re-entry into Canada.
I was thinking of buying a 1970-1988 vehicle 2002 model or 535i then I looked at other models as well. All of them would require essentially a full rebuild a la Marty in the long run if your OCD factor is strong in you.
With an IM car that old your buying condition only, if that.
Depending on your OCD factor comes in a lot, maybe your buying bones!
Hopefully you get good bones
Many things will be unknown and patina will be everywhere.
Just saying.
To the original topic...
SOLD..SOLD...SOLD
FRIED, DYED AND LAID ON THA SIDE
YA....FREEKIN HOOO !!!
Tucumcari here we come..................again
So you made the plunge.
Good for you.
Flying out to pick it up?
Snow in the Rockies next week. Looks like the train.
The train will take awhile, Dave. But it's a good alternative.
Henry also uses a good transport company. I got my IM delivered that way, right to the doorstep.
Bob: IM S6 posted:The train will take awhile, Dave. But it's a good alternative.
Henry also uses a good transport company. I got my IM delivered that way, right to the doorstep.
Change of plans....we're flying out there this coming Wednesday and will take about 7 days driving it home. Henry has treated me very well and will give the car a good going over on Monday / Tuesday...full mechanical inspection, tuneup, oil change, valve adjust etc. etc.
We'll take the lower route through the mountains via the Crowsnest Highway into Alberta.
That should be a great drive. Glad it all worked out, and I knew Henry would treat you well. Give him my regards when you get a chance.
After three purchases from him, I trust him to always do the right thing.
You and Francine need to join us on some Ontario based driving tour next year. Maybe we can get Ray to join us, too.
David great you will get to see the car and evaluate what you want to do as well... If you hit snow don't stop till your out of it... Just kidding. enjoy the trip...
I've been following this web site for almost 10 years now. Today I saw the ad "IM for sale super deal" so I opened the link to find out , that I was the second owner of that car. I purchase that car from Henry "IM" in Vancouver about 18 years ago with the purchase price of $24k with over 105k km on the odometer. I kept the car for about three years and I sold it to Ron for $20k with maybe 108k on the odometer. Now 15 years later the same car is for sale at IM with only 40,827 on the odometer. I loved that car but the actual mileage is more like 140,827 km and maybe not a super deal.
Interesting most interestimg but truly at that age who really thinks it has the actual mileage on the dial?
RDJ posted:I've been following this web site for almost 10 years now. Today I saw the ad "IM for sale super deal" so I opened the link to find out , that I was the second owner of that car. I purchase that car from Henry "IM" in Vancouver about 18 years ago with the purchase price of $24k with over 105k km on the odometer. I kept the car for about three years and I sold it to Ron for $20k with maybe 108k on the odometer. Now 15 years later the same car is for sale at IM with only 40,827 on the odometer. I loved that car but the actual mileage is more like 140,827 km and maybe not a super deal.
Are you Richard Jobin ?
I have no illusions that 40,827 is the actual "all time" mileage on the car. It is my understanding that the current seller took the car to Henry at IM when he bought it and had the complete car gone through and the current engine and transmission got installed and any other repairs were made to refresh the whole car. Looks like new instruments too.
This process I think is much like an airplane getting rebuilt or overhauled when it reaches the specified number of hours on the airframe. Same thing with a certified aircraft engine. When it reaches a specific number of hours it gets overhauled to "as new" condition.
At any rate, I'm confident that it is in good shape so I bought it. I know it's not perfect and I'm ok with that. Many others seem to think that it is a pretty good deal too. I've wanted a Roadster for a while now and they sure don't come available that often especially in Canada. Knowing that Henry has had his hands on it very recently makes me feel pretty confident.
Do not dis pare David.
About 2 years ago I bought a 2003 Roadster from a guy in Miami . It was on Henry's website and only had 6k miles on it. Needed carbs rebuilding, but other than that It looked pretty good. 2 years later and nearly replacing every bolt (including rebuilding the engine , the wiring, and redoing the interior, I ended up with a really nice car. 2 years later! (And I paid a good bit more than you did.)
My point - mileage is not everything. My previous owner bought the car, drove it to brunch and forgot about it in the garage. Never did a t hing to it in 12 years.
If your 'new' car has been well cared for and even updated, it should be a great car at a fantastic deal. Have fun.
That drive home will be with a big smile on your face.
I think RDj ‘s point is rather the transparency of the seller.
MotoCarlo posted:Do not dis pare David.
That drive home will be with a big smile on your face.
I'm no where near despair, in fact quite the opposite and we're both looking very much forward to this Wednesday. I'll do a little chronicle of the trip along the way in another thread.
IaM-Ray posted:I think RDj ‘s point is rather the transparency of the seller.
I know. :-)
Welcome to the real world David. Your long trips will be more than enjoyable!!
Congrats to you Mr. Stroud! Wondering if you're gonna swap the Soob in it...
edsnova posted:Congrats to you Mr. Stroud! Wondering if you're gonna swap the Soob in it...
Thanks, Tom.
I've been thinking about it Ed, but I think in the long run it would be best to leave the Soob in the existing Speedster and sell that as it is. Then, drive the aircooled Roadster a bit till I get my little airplane finished ( aircooled also...see pic attached ) and then decide if I want to Soob the Roadster. I know how to do it so it might be easier overall to do a new one rather than swap the other one over I think. If I did another Soob conversion it would be the same type...Frankenmotor, crank fired Ford ignition with Megajolt and a single Weber 32/36.
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