I'm in a quandry about scripts.

From the Passing Thought Department:
Two engines ago, I had a 1641 in the Hoopty. It came to me with a 1600 script on the back. Then I had it painted and I retired the faded 1600 and replaced it with a 1600 Super script.
I bought the Type IV and started thinking about replacing the 1600 Super with something else, but couldn't figure out what to hang on there in its place.
Now I'm really flapping. I wonder if I should replace both the Porsche script AND the 1600 Super with something else to reflect the new 911E mill. Carrera comes to mind, like they're doing it nowadays, but I want to take a straw poll and get some suggestions together.
A 356E script, perhaps?
You folks have already helped me formulate the paint scheme from my handful of sketches, and there are many other items on the car the membership has sent me in the mail ... so I'll open this one up to committee, too. The SOC is batting 1000 so far.

Bearing in mind that she'll be wearing Powder Blue and Marigold Orange 1960s LeMans racing colors (the Gulf 917 cars), what do y'all suggest I do?

"Plain Jane" works for me as it would continue the clean lines you have in place.

I would go Stealth, this always makes for good conversation.

I'm with Alan - I just have a carrera badge on the rear, no side scripts, no porsche badging.

Simon, have you ever gotten a speeding ticket sitting at a stoplight?
Your car just oozes "fast."

Maybe the Carrera script. The 2.0E mill does not reflect carrera history, not a carrera motor, but it does indicate the hot-rod nature of the carrera cars - the Hoopty is definately a hot-rod. There is a 911E dash insignia that is unique to 1969-73 cars that could find a home on the hoopty ($25) or a rear script that normally goes on the decklid of a 911 for the E cars its black 911E.

Also a nice tribute are the engien decals that show firing order, tire pressures, valve clearances etc. We have these in our engine bay. They are very durable and add a certain "factory" look to what is definately NOT a factory setup.

angela

I may just do both of those things, Angela. If I follow Simon's lead and clean up the sides but leave my 901 badge on the front, that'll allow for the Carrera script with no confusion. And there won't be any more changing of the 1600 cc indication, either. Hmmmm. ...
Sould probably take off the Porsche script, too, huh?
Anybody want 'em, or will they decorate my bar?

Better picture of the scripts I have. I'm entertaining trades for one new or used Carerra script; overall condition doesn't matter, 'cuz I'm going to refinish and paint it anyway. (Thanks for the opinion poll on the e-mail, everyone!)
The new script will be painted powder blue to match the majority of the body, set over top of the orange stripe (in place of the Porsche script that's there now).

How about modifying the "Super 90" script into "Super 911E"?

Hmmm ... Kinda takes away the mystery a bit, huh?
I probably will wait to see how the two-liter sounds, first. I've never heard one, and that will probably decide for me.
I saw another idea here a while back. Someone had custom "Outlaw" scripts made. One of those would settle all bets.

Oh that does it. OUTLAW. Perfect. Says it all.
angela

Cory - I agree that 'OUTLAW' works best. I'm sure folks will see the subtle, yet definitely different lines of the car, hear the exhaust-note of the 911 coming out of stainless steel headers, plus the intense-looking white-dude driving it, and think "that's one BAD BOY!".

Peace - Out!

In respect to this invaluable website, don't you need to put the word "Speedster" somewhere on that fuselage? And more importantly, how does one spell fuselage anyway?

Yup. That's what I'ma gonna do. Outlaw it is.

My dear Doktor Jones, there are three "Speedster" scripts on the car now, and my evil, devious plan is to remove the ones on the front fenders and leave only the one, horribly incorrect one where the glove box ought to be.
Since it's "incorrect" in its placement and I'm obviously whacked in the head for hacking up the car ...
One "Outlaw" script ought to do the trick.

... And I'm going to make it with a plasma cutter and a welding torch. That'll be my project for the week! I can't find the one I think I thought I saw elsewhere.
Stupid memory loss. DOH!

Okay. Rant time. I don't generally vent like this, but I have to today:
While I was unsuccessfully looking around for the 'outlaw' script thingie, I cruised past the metal car folks' forum and had an entertaining read about the origins and values of outlaw cars.
I thought about asking those folks about where to come up with a brass outlaw plate like one I saw on eBay several months ago, and I was going to cite my ghetto sled as the reason.
Seems if you have an Emory-built car (and I really, really DO want one) your money's as good as if it was in the bank.
I'm hosed, because "all (I) have is a replica." And $40K in receipts.
At least I know that -- now that I'm almost done. I sure am glad I read their site so I could also discover the merits of $5K in a leather interior, $5K for paint and almost nothing about an engine or transmission. God forbid your numbers don't match, and don't even think about putting a non-OEM part on your car.
In case you're interested -- or just still reading -- you'll want to outlaw-treat a coupe (Sorry, TC. Wish I had known that earlier in the year so I could have stopped you in time.), instead of the pre-A, A, B or C cars.
I'm going to drive this crate I'm building on gravel and unimproved surfaces only, so I can minimize my potential for resale even more. Maybe, if they bring back the Carerra Panamericana, I'll go drive it over that horrendous course! I'm pretty familiar with the interiors of Colombia, Ecuador and Peru, thanks to Uncle Sam.
Boy, that Amazon Basin's a great place for your Klasse 356. BIG difference here; you all know I won't hesitate to put my sh** on a boat for Rio the day I can afford the vacation time. And I'll drive the sonofagun, too -- not hire a Hessian mercenary.
Who the heck are those guys? I don't even want to ask my question of them anymore. Which of them would hack a 356 up like Sartwell and I -- and so many others here -- have done with 'glass bodies? Whaddya gotta do to get a little respect?

(I feel better. Ain't vitriolic rants great? -- But I'd still like to read some feedback. I know we've probably all read stuff "over there" and I know there are great folks in the 356 community, but GEEEZ!)

Take it from me; it is not worth fighting with those folks or even trying to talk to them. No matter the tone you use they will find a back handed way of insulting you, even after you try to make peace in their camp. They, (for the most part) dislike our cars, compare them to dildos and place their cars on the holiest of holy grounds. They are a culture that I personally would never want to travel with but, at least they are easily spotted by there noses always being pointed to the sky

Cory, my brutha!

I agree with Chris (and many others, I'm sure) about the futility of having a mutually respectful conversation with some of the snobby 356 guys. It would be the equivalent of you trying to reason with a 5150 on one of your medical aid calls.

But, roll your finished Outlaw Hoopty into a 356 show, flip both ends open, exposing the custom fabrication and a 356-munching 911, and I'll bet a dollar that 75% of the 356 guys would trade you straight up. Plus, for effect, you might want to display a bumper sticker like the one I saw on an old beater truck that I said..."F*** YOU, YOU F***ING F***!" (LOL). I LOVE that bumper sticker!

Peace - Out!

Quit complaining, I TOLD you to mount a steel body on that thing. A metal body with a hinge cover VIN/builder's plate will make you the darling of the Outlaws.

Speaking of which, what does this mean

Right on, guys. TC, I WILL eventually upgrade to a metal body, ala Tweeks if I have to. And you're right ... you did suggest that early on.
Unfortunately, I'm a fireman ... So I'll have to buy that body in pieces or win the lottery and have one drop out of the sky like the 2.0 engine did. I don't have a garage to put a hulk in while I'm robbing it of major components, but it will eventually happen.
Thanks for the tip on the outlaw guy, too.

Of course, you could make a "Drakester" script - take off of your last name. angela

Funny, Angela. But I'm not going to get ahead of myself too far. Suppose it doesn't make it around the block without a major catastrophe? (Or even a minor one! Sure wouldn't want my name carved into that!)

TC, the coupe reference was on the Registry guys' site. Apparently, a convertible of any description is worth the money expended on restoration, but nothing you need a headliner for is going to sell for as much as it takes to get it right.
I was recalling your "to hack or not to hack the coupe" thread from earlier this year, and I got a little hot at the thought of someone turning a wrench only to sell a car for outlandish prices, instead of doing something fun for the enjoyment of a ride down the road -- especially since "we" had been put in such a bad light in the same page of reading.
I'm like a match that way; safe in the box, but strike me once and I flash for a minute or two. Then it's gone. Live and let live and all that.

By default, it could have been an oblique reference to coupe restoration as a waste of time; my interpretation of the commentary was that only cars with resale value should be brought back to concours condition, and then to be shown and trailered.
In fairness, I think I agree -- but I'm a driver, not a speculative buyer looking for a buck on the margin. I'll buy a beater and fix it up just to tool it down the road. Same stuff you cautioned me about last year, that there are all kinds of potential pitfalls when dealing with purists. There are enough beaters to go around, and maybe they're right. If you make it "perfect," maybe showing it off as a perfect specimen from a bygone era is a worthy effort. Not for me.

There have been a couple days' worth of chill on my end now, and I think that was probably a 'notice to mariners' of sorts, in response to a guy's question about what to make a salable project out of. I don't know why I lost my cool.

Spend all the money you want on coupes. Coupes are cool. Build them, build them well and driving the living snot out of them.
angela

I FREAKING LOVE THAT CAR! That one had a quote attached to it, if I remember right; something about the old factory guys asking if Emory's car was 'one of those Abarth cars,' because they didn't remember building it. ...
Also, if memory serves, there's a bit of a front clip used as a back clip, the body is reinforced throughout with small-diameter tubing, etc., etc. ...
Angela, if you know that guy well, could you show him a hoopty picture, and please tell him he was a major inspiration for my crate? (I know you're on the barbecue invite list and all ... Hate to get you tossed out on your ear ...)
But I'd sure appreciate it.

Cory - I'll show the Emory's all the hoopty pics you want. They will love it. Everyone's invited to the BBQ, they even let me go. They only place I've been thrown out of for many years was my husband's bank. Stupid bank.

That little car in the pic is my favorite. Has the lust worthy 911 four cylinder engine and runs like a little fiend!! They also have bits of 904 cars, 959 actual factory body panels... everything but especially cool 356 variants. The Emory's, like you Cory, think outside the box. Way way outside. angela

"but nothing you need a headliner for is going to sell for as much as it takes to get it right."

That's why I love so much! Probably why I find them for two and three hundred bucks.

But it seems as though the Emory's prefer them as well, so I'm in the very best of company . . .

Isn't it weird how all the genuine Porsche folks own coupes but lean towards the open cars, while the replica guys buy an open car and lust after the coupes. Granted it's usually a fiberglass coupe out of Mexico, but still.

HOWEVER, when they find that elusive fiberglass coupe, they're all planning on doing it up Outlaw Style, possibly because the open Speedster replicas are worth too much "as is" . . . maybe not much difference between the two camps after all.

When the top goes down (ANY top!) the price goes up, while Coupes are just to mess around with.

"If her Daddy's rich take her out for a meal. If her Daddy's poor just do what you feel , , , "

Maybe ? ! ?

I found and wrote the designdriven guy (goes by Cam) in Victoria, Australia. Two hundred bucks for an Outlaw script. They're gold plated, apparently. I haven't heard back from him if that's $200 or if it's Aussie money. Their Australian Outlaw grille badges are $50., same drill on whose money.
I asked him if he could make them in billet aluminum. No answer yet.
I'm guessing that's a desirable badge and script combo for more folks here than just me, so I'll keep y'all posted. If he can do aluminum, that'll be what I get, since I don't want some D.C. crackhead to pry the gold off the Hoopty and sell it for drugs.

Cory-

You are a handy guy. Try making your own with a roll of solder. I think 50/50 would be easiest, but 95/5 would last longer. Good luck.

Cory,

I see the problem with the Aussie guy straight away. As an Aussie living here in the States, I get caught all the time with aluminum/aluminium, color/colour, check/cheque, etc. The poor chap back home in Melbourne is probably trying to work out what an aluminum script is. Must be some new fandangled NASA inspired, space age tech-nogoly.

Stan -- I'll be trying my hand with some plate steel and the plasma cutter, then billet and the Dremmel and, ultimately, I'll tie on the Mr. Miagi head-sash and go for the chop-chop out of bricks. Results will be the same; I'll but one from that guy. I have a big "L" on my forehead when it comes to fine motor skills.

Dominic -- Two countries separated by a common language, eh? But NASA already HAS all the cool scripts! Voyager, Gemini, Enterprise, Discovery, Atlantis ...
Rat bastards! They've stolen all the good ideas!

(BTW - What are the odds you're in the same part of town as my brother? He lives in the City of Maize.)

Maize . . .

Why isn't that the Indian word for corn? It's like they have a different word for everything . . . like the French . . . kinda.

Cory, my brutha!

Dude, this is IT! - TUBZILLA - a script borne from aluminum billet emblazoned on the engine lid of Hoopty!!!

Peace - Out!

My brother was tickled to death a few months ago. He works for the POlice out there, and they just got a new "fleet" of three cars. Wyatt Earp would be proud.

Jim, I think I'll do that in paint, ala "Little Bastard." I have my heart set on an outlaw script now. I'm retarded like that.

All hands and the ship's cook: I finally nailed down a powdercoat appointment! WOO-HOO! I'll roll it in on one end of a building in Landover, MD, one day and get her back powdercoated orange on the other end of the building two days later -- for the bargain-basement price of four hunderd bucks (for seven components)!

Perhaps someone can turn you on to a local shop with a laser cutter, they can easily do your script in aluminum..you see them on the Fuse show all the time, but many metal fab shops use them for a myriad of tasks. You draw, they scan and refine and its in your hands. Most likely same price as the Ausie.Gooday!!