It is under additional information on the first 356 page.
John, On some computers the items under additional information do not show up. I have called SAS about it and Steve cannot figure out why the information items are not showing up. Apparently he has called several people and they see them OK. I cannot see them on my computer.
With regard to SAS versus SAW, this is a method to divide up the old SAW between the 356 replicas (SAS) and the street rods (SAW). SAS also includes the XK120/XK140 series and perhaps other sports cars. In recent months Steve has not been taking new commissions for street rods and attempting to clear out the present backlog. Steve seems really pleased with the work on Suby-powered Speedsters and wants to move the business in that direction. There may be other valid business reasons to maintain separate entities for the two lines.
With regard to SAS versus SAW, this is a method to divide up the old SAW between the 356 replicas (SAS) and the street rods (SAW). SAS also includes the XK120/XK140 series and perhaps other sports cars. In recent months Steve has not been taking new commissions for street rods and attempting to clear out the present backlog. Steve seems really pleased with the work on Suby-powered Speedsters and wants to move the business in that direction. There may be other valid business reasons to maintain separate entities for the two lines.
I can confirm on my various systems, running IE6 and now FireFox 2.0 I can not see any of the menu items.
That sounds like good news, so he is increasing the focus on the Tubaru Roadsters. :) Great!
PS - John is the green cabrio in your profile your new SAW machine or is that your reference one? Do I understand correctly that you have taken possession of your SAW ride?
-Jeff
That sounds like good news, so he is increasing the focus on the Tubaru Roadsters. :) Great!
PS - John is the green cabrio in your profile your new SAW machine or is that your reference one? Do I understand correctly that you have taken possession of your SAW ride?
-Jeff
I do not have a car yet.
In response to some questions previously raised about the Watermeccanica #1 here are some photos taken Nov 20th when John dropped by IM to hear his engine fire for the first time. I've included a front suspension/radiator photo along with his custom "treasure chest" rear seat area.
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How about a picture of the inlet side for the radiator? It will be interesting to see what Henry has decided to do for ram air flow inlet.
It is a neat looking itake on the engine.
I recognize the radiator fans. They are just like the one I bought to replace my original one, they pull some serious air and don't seem to pull over 14-17 amps depending on static pressure for the day.
Hopefully, we will see some wide 5's on this baby.
It is a neat looking itake on the engine.
I recognize the radiator fans. They are just like the one I bought to replace my original one, they pull some serious air and don't seem to pull over 14-17 amps depending on static pressure for the day.
Hopefully, we will see some wide 5's on this baby.
I like the 'back seat' alteration. Being sub 6'-0" the seat travel isn't an issue for little me. But the back seats are a joke for passengers and it is good to see an adaptation that has merit two-fold.
I could see some storage for gear on roadtrips, but more a great place for speakers and amp and CD player (I guess that's on its way out like the horse and buggy) or a good location for a pre-oiler, the battery, etc
I could see some storage for gear on roadtrips, but more a great place for speakers and amp and CD player (I guess that's on its way out like the horse and buggy) or a good location for a pre-oiler, the battery, etc
Oh yea, I would love to have a second set of speakers and a sub behind me....in fact I have thought of doing that, but it is down on my list of things to do.
A turbo will be my music....real thunder.....who needs a sub woofer.....Mike
Mike:
It's hard to beat the sound of a turbo spooling-up, but what about those times you're under 15mph, like when you're cruising State Street on the weekends (checking your traps), you gotta have some cool tunes to help throw out the vibes! UCSB wasn't rated #1 college party campus for nothing (well maybe it was a while back, but still..)!
Speedster "D" - bajito y suavecito, am I right?!
Peace - Out!
It's hard to beat the sound of a turbo spooling-up, but what about those times you're under 15mph, like when you're cruising State Street on the weekends (checking your traps), you gotta have some cool tunes to help throw out the vibes! UCSB wasn't rated #1 college party campus for nothing (well maybe it was a while back, but still..)!
Speedster "D" - bajito y suavecito, am I right?!
Peace - Out!
Jim
Still a party school!!!!~Esther
Dr. Mike -
When it gets close to the delivery date of your Speedy (2007?), let me know and I will scare-up a SoCal SOC posse to drive up to SB for a cruise to christen your undoubtedly outrageous car. I'll have to be sure to contact 'RotnRoby' (SOC'er in your neck of the woods) so he can join us also. Looking forward to it! (Maybe we'll have time for me to stop by the 'Palace' restaurant for some bread-pudding w/whiskey sauce - yum!
BTW - Speedy or not, be sure to set aside time to join us for the SOC Meet in Paso Robles (April 2007?). You'll get a chance to meet the great folks (with their cool cars) that frequent this website!
Peace - Out!
When it gets close to the delivery date of your Speedy (2007?), let me know and I will scare-up a SoCal SOC posse to drive up to SB for a cruise to christen your undoubtedly outrageous car. I'll have to be sure to contact 'RotnRoby' (SOC'er in your neck of the woods) so he can join us also. Looking forward to it! (Maybe we'll have time for me to stop by the 'Palace' restaurant for some bread-pudding w/whiskey sauce - yum!
BTW - Speedy or not, be sure to set aside time to join us for the SOC Meet in Paso Robles (April 2007?). You'll get a chance to meet the great folks (with their cool cars) that frequent this website!
Peace - Out!
Jim Thanks for the invite... I was hoping for 2005,then 2006 and now 2007....I have a place in Santa Barbara where I can park 20 to 30 cars without problems so if you guys want to stop on the way to Paso I would love to have you.........Mike
Thanks for posting the pics of John's (GZ's) uber-H2O-IMster, Rick. I hope John is at the BBQ so I can admire that suspension set up close.
Doc Mike -
Thanks for the invite - we'll keep that in mind!
Thanks for the invite - we'll keep that in mind!
I talked to Henry today and the watercooled Intermeccanica lives! The engine is in and running great.
The radiator is set back from the front of the car and mounted on an angle, so air can be drawn in by the fans. I thought I might have a picture of it, but I don't. I'm downtown again next week so I'll try to stop in and get some shots of the engine in the car.
The radiator is set back from the front of the car and mounted on an angle, so air can be drawn in by the fans. I thought I might have a picture of it, but I don't. I'm downtown again next week so I'll try to stop in and get some shots of the engine in the car.
Ron, do you know if he is using the VW engine controls and monitoring, or did he decide to go with an aftermarket harness and computer?
Heck, I should ask, I assume he went fuel injected.
Heck, I should ask, I assume he went fuel injected.
Ron,
Anxiously awaiting any photos you can manage. :)
-Jeff
Anxiously awaiting any photos you can manage. :)
-Jeff
Definitely fuel injected. Not sure about the harness, but all the engine's systems, sensors, etc. are operational.
I'll be back downtown later this week and maybe will get some photos of the car on the road!
I'll be back downtown later this week and maybe will get some photos of the car on the road!
That will be one smooth running engine.
Hey Rick Davis - thanks for posting those pictures, at first I was suprised to see myself as I did not connect you being at the shop that day with the posted images. But I've had some rest and I'm better now.
Could you send me any images you may have of me and the car, strangely as I shoot all of my own pictures I'm rarely in them.
jgajdecki@gmail.com
Any that you could send would be greatly appreciated.
Gz
Could you send me any images you may have of me and the car, strangely as I shoot all of my own pictures I'm rarely in them.
jgajdecki@gmail.com
Any that you could send would be greatly appreciated.
Gz
John,
The car looks great! Out of curiosity, how long has your order been in? I'm curious what the build time has been like so far on your special water-cooled project.
Thanks,
-Jeff
The car looks great! Out of curiosity, how long has your order been in? I'm curious what the build time has been like so far on your special water-cooled project.
Thanks,
-Jeff
Jeff, do a search on when someone first announced that Henry was building a water cooled car. You might be surprised, but it is the first and it does take a long time to do a development project while your also trying to keep cars going out the door to pay the bills.
It might seem simple to build the same basic car and just stick a different engine in there, and I'm sure Henry is trying to do that as much as possible, but he has an entire new set of problems to overcome and largely different solutions to those problems then he has dealt with in the past. As with any development some things will work out fine, others will not, and have to be changed, refined, and developed further.
Heck, he has been building the aircooled version for many many years and still to this day makes changes and developments to solve ongoing issues.
I am positive that the first car, and the fifth car will have significant differences and changes.
It might seem simple to build the same basic car and just stick a different engine in there, and I'm sure Henry is trying to do that as much as possible, but he has an entire new set of problems to overcome and largely different solutions to those problems then he has dealt with in the past. As with any development some things will work out fine, others will not, and have to be changed, refined, and developed further.
Heck, he has been building the aircooled version for many many years and still to this day makes changes and developments to solve ongoing issues.
I am positive that the first car, and the fifth car will have significant differences and changes.
Hey Jeff, Henry and I had an agreement ( I still remember the day we shook on it ) where the car would take as long as it needed, and he'd do his best to keep the costs where he said they'd be. The costs are exactly where we started, except for some overt changes on my part, and the car took less time than the early SAW's.
More than 1 year. He had lots of stuff to source and every thing he put in the car is top notch. I'm sure the future models will have changes and will certainly take less time to build by a long shot.
Remember that some of that wait was just getting my car into his his production que. It took about 4 months to build once they finished welding the frame.
Gz
More than 1 year. He had lots of stuff to source and every thing he put in the car is top notch. I'm sure the future models will have changes and will certainly take less time to build by a long shot.
Remember that some of that wait was just getting my car into his his production que. It took about 4 months to build once they finished welding the frame.
Gz
Steve, John,
Thanks for your comments and perspective from the watercooled speedster front lines. I guess you guys are like the special forces of watercooled operations. :)
-Jeff
Thanks for your comments and perspective from the watercooled speedster front lines. I guess you guys are like the special forces of watercooled operations. :)
-Jeff
Part of the wait on the early SAW cars was also simply the que, I don't really see the SAW car as taking longer if you discount the que. But in all fairness the concept had already been completed, but the Cabriolet development was new which did of course take some extra development time.
Having said that, I also don't think the average person really cares about the manufacturers que. The owner really only cares about when there car will be done. Henry did as most of these builders will do on any new development project, he promised to do his best and you in return promise to understand the time delays and issues they face in such a car in it's early development. It is really all about expectations, making sure everyones expectations match what you are able to produce. Sometimes unforseen circumstances throw a wrench in things, but the dissoppointment remains the same. That has to be the most frustrating part of being a builder.
My car was done in less then a year, and frankly discounting the que and the overrider tubes. Was basically, built in the same time. Of course everyone knows and it has been stated before that SAS(SAW)is not geared to produce the same kind of production numbers as IM.
Likewise, you can usually get a Vintage much, much, quicker then either an IM or SAS or JPS. It is important for people to understand what they are getting into and how long the wait can be, and be willing to accept your individual manufacturers schedule and production capabilities. Even with all of these caveats, when things don't go as planned it is still dissappointing, but that is the nature of having a custom built car in my opinion.
Having said that, I also don't think the average person really cares about the manufacturers que. The owner really only cares about when there car will be done. Henry did as most of these builders will do on any new development project, he promised to do his best and you in return promise to understand the time delays and issues they face in such a car in it's early development. It is really all about expectations, making sure everyones expectations match what you are able to produce. Sometimes unforseen circumstances throw a wrench in things, but the dissoppointment remains the same. That has to be the most frustrating part of being a builder.
My car was done in less then a year, and frankly discounting the que and the overrider tubes. Was basically, built in the same time. Of course everyone knows and it has been stated before that SAS(SAW)is not geared to produce the same kind of production numbers as IM.
Likewise, you can usually get a Vintage much, much, quicker then either an IM or SAS or JPS. It is important for people to understand what they are getting into and how long the wait can be, and be willing to accept your individual manufacturers schedule and production capabilities. Even with all of these caveats, when things don't go as planned it is still dissappointing, but that is the nature of having a custom built car in my opinion.