It's official... new build

Update... My car sold yesterday thanks to Carey and Kevin at Special Edition. Current build is out final block sanding. Now the waiting game, come on spring.

Any chance we'll see it at Carlisle?

Lane, it all depends on when Carey  gets it done. It would be great to have it by then and this is the first year I don't have a work conflict so stars are aligning. The weather is always the question. 

Nothing like seeing your 'dream Speedster' in the build stage.  I hope it does get built in time for Carlisle, and we get to see it.

The weather doesn't stop most of us. You don't wanna lose your Madness card now do ya?

Getting paint, carpet and leather samples in the next few days. Now the real fun begins, decisions...decisions... decisions. Carey Hines is the man!

Is that Stone Grey or Slate Grey? Or something completely different?

 I love grey, but I really think it depends on how much you have had to drink.  

The picture shows Stone Grey, which has a lot of green, at least to my eye.  Slate Grey is real grey, without the green overtones.

Note from a former photo dude:

Most shops are lit with fluorescent tubes that makes everything photograph more green than it actually is.

Here's the original photo next to one where a lot of green has been removed. To my eyes (and on my computer screen) the adjusted version seems to have more neutral colors in the metal panel and walls, and the paint sample looks a lot different, too.

The adjusted photo still may not be accurate, but maybe this example shows how hard it can be to judge color from a photo.

Fluorescent tubes are notorious for playing havoc with color photography and making everything look very different than it does in daylight. The first photo doesn't look terribly green by itself, until you compare it to the second photo.

Mitch you nailed it, it's all about the lighting. Yes it is stone grey, Carey sent three samples (Willhoit, DuPont and his own mix) and they all differ in color based on light and angle. 

I am leaning towards oatmeal carpet, red leather and black top similar. 

This is the look I am going for.  

That's a nice, classy, clean look. 

Nice! You better join me at C&C in Winnetka this year.  I love making those PCA guys squirm.  I try to park right next to them.

Any of the browns/beiges (oatmeal, tan, honey brown, natural) for carpet will look great with the stone grey, Joe. Will it have 5x205, 4x130, Fuchs alloys (or something else) on it? It's gonna look sharp!

As for the problem of getting the stone grey color right in the different lights- most colors can be mixed with 2 or 3 (or sometimes even 4) different combinations of tints (or toners, as I believe they are called in the automotive world) and each sample, while looking exactly the same in one light (for example, the shop where they were mixed) can look very different in sunlight, shade, and different artificial lights. I think that's what's happening here.  I'm a house painter and run into this occasionally, having to adjust a color when in the room it doesn't look like it did in the store, or even the sample chip from the paint company (which is done with printing inks and reacts differently again). 

PS- The trick would be to have the original mixing formula; mind you, I don't know if that would do any good either, as I imagine the toners have changed over the years as well...Al

" I love making those PCA guys squirm.  I try to park right next to them. "

I like your style, Marty! Some P owners are so full of themselves....

a sacramento guy (dave?) had AN im COLOR LIKE YOURS, HIS INTERIOR WAS BEAUTIFUL(didnt know caps were on) i called it salmon color but he said it was "tomato soup"  there was a thread on it a few months ago..

Marty yes I will be joining you for C&C this year, down to one kid in soccer making Sundays easy to get away.

Al or is great and powerful Yoda, wheels are going to be Rudge Knock Offs. Chris Coddington will be making them which is the long straw on the build.

I cannot say enough about Carey Hines and his painter. They have been futzing around with this for days. Anand was nice enough to send the Willhoit sample to compare to his mix, which he was adding the effect of each color tint 0.1g at a time.

Pictures don't do the samples justice. 

Regarding the samples, Joe: which is which?

Here you go Stan, DuPont is darker and Carey's looks similar to Willhoit, but better IMO  

ALB,

You are exactly correct.

We got the "blendable match" from DuPont, which was anything but.  I took that mix formula and started manipulating it.  The pictures with the stir stick was during that process.  Unfortunately, the oxide red they use in their formula would bring it close to Wilhoits, but then start to put too much red in the side tones and muddy the color before it got to where I wanted it.

So, I contacted Glasurit.  They gave me 3 different formulas for the same Stone Grey, all reported to be original match formulas.  2 of these formulas had a few extra colors thrown in, like a medium green.  This brought the color close when looking straight on,  but again the side tones were WAY off.  

The oldest Glasurit formula had the same basic ingredients as DuPont, but some subtle changes.  And, as mentioned above, some of the original tints have changed drastically or are nonexistent.  The formula we came up with is a blendable match to Wilhoits with very similar side tones.  Held card to card you can see a very minor difference in the right light, but put a pencil between the overlap lines and you can't tell the difference...

Also, I don't know much about the water based paints sprayed in CA and how easy it is to match with our traditional paints... but some of the water-based formulas we found had no corresponding matches in the "normal" paint mixing tints.

Getting paint formulae to match is a lot like being a Wizard, isn't it?

Alchemy. It's alchemy.

I love good color, but am a complete and utter Cretan as far as how to get there. I'm glad there are guys like you, Carey.

i got passed by a new Subaru and dammn if it wasnt stone grey, i said that would look good  on a speedy.

Masked and ready for paint, outside temp needs to be above 30 so hopefully Monday, fingers crossed.

I know what you're going through, Carey. I'll bet if the original team that mixed that color could see what you're doing now to match those side tones (which with the materials they had were probably a by-product of the color mix) they'd be laughing their tails off.

It has beehives. 

Car is out of paint and will cure all week and then next week they’ll start the wet sanding and buffing.  That process is a week long, it gets sanded with 1000, 15000, 2000, 3000 Trizac and then finally 5000 tirzac.  By the time they get to the 5000 it is actually starting to bring up a shine.  Then they buff with with wool and finally polish it with a foam pad. Cannot wait to see it in the sun.

Wow!  That is not a color that you would think was beautiful if you just saw a flat panel with it, but on a curvy car like a Speedster it's spectacular.