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*LongFella posted:

More reading and more research. Minor change to the list below:

 

- CB Performance Case (https://www.cbperformance.com/...asp?ProductCode=1156)

- 94MM pistons (AA, balanced by DPR), I-Beam rods (balanced by DPR)

- 69 DPR counterweighted crank

- Eagle 110 cam (285dur x .430lift)

- Steve Tims Heads (stock 37x32, properly ported)

- 1.25 rockers

 

How is the list so far? Will it produce good smooth power, retain drivability, maintain longevity, and not break the bank?

 

Does my cam have the correct dur. and lift?

Yes, that is good so far.  110cam is a true compression cam.  Meaning it does not have to rev to create compression so you have good bottom end power.  Keep it simple and you will be happy.  A foot note is: you can always go stock rockers and ad 1.25 later if you feel the need for more power.  Also, go with matching brand lifters so you have less chance of your cam going flat.  Ask DPR to hook you up with a Engle cam and lifter set.  If you don't want to go with an after market cam gear, DPR also does there version of a 110 using a VW blank and VW factory gear and VW factory lifters.  Less money too.  Do your research and read about straight cut gears on aircooled.net and try to listen personally to motors that have them.  I know the peanut gallery is against them, but its a trad off between noise vs. power (minimal) and longevity. 

Yes, that cam has the correct dur. and lift. 

Well, I haven't done much to my Eleanor. The latest install was the body rubber piece have been trimmed and glued in place. I will be picking up some stuff this Sunday (which I am excited about!) and get to meet a fellow SOC'r. My next big plan is to order the body and have it prepped and completed painted by mid/end of March. Once I get all the parts Sunday, I will start the engine build/tear down/rebuild. Sucks waiting... but the baby needs diapers and formula too... LOL!

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Tom Blankinship posted:
You call your car Eleanor. I call my car Natalie because that is the name of the Speedster they stole in Gone in 60 Seconds. I even managed to score the License plate in Michigan.

This car is Eleanor. My daily driver is Jenny (after an actress crush I had a LONG time ago). I know Eleanor is usually synonymous with a Mustang, but this is a car/build I have always wanted to do and never pulled the trigger to do... so it my Eleanor of cars

David Stroud posted:
Sacto Mitch posted:

 

I wonder what Jungian psychological conflicts an analyst would find buried deep in my psyche based on the fact that I never named my Speedster.

I was saving up for some sessions with an analyst, but I squandered all the money on a Gene Berg five speed.

 

Ya did the right thing, Mitch...........at least you know what you are getting.

Best therapy is shifting thru those gears and realizing how much more the car has to offer than on a couch and someone telling you what you already know.

 

I think it would take a psychoanalyst one hell of a long time just to FIND to my psyche, let alone find the "deep stuff".  And once they got there, they would be very afraid....or extremely cornfused, at least.

Naming my car "Pearl" just seemed to fit and everyone who has seen her in person would agree.  Funny - I never named a car before her, and now I have her and "Kelvinator".  Must be a "Mid-Life" thing.

Apologies, Longfella.

In all fairness, the thread did run over two months and through five pages of comments before unraveling.

There was a time when forum threads were built to a higher standard and we could expect months, even years, of unwavering focus. Today though, comments show up here from all sorts of dubious sources. It's just another thing you have to expect when following a replica forum.

 

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*LongFella posted:

I like how my build thread turned into a deep depth on the psychological affects of naming your car...

That's some madness right there...

I don't name my car anything yet my Wife will call the GPS a Bitch sometimes.  You call yourself LongFella and assume we should be ok with that. Go figure.....or should we ask why ?

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Yeah, that's a good point, Dave - We've got a bridge in Boston called the Longfella Bridge.  Down at the mouth of the Chaas Rivah, just up-rivah from the Museum of Science and dumps southbound traffic towards Mass General Hospital or towards the Gum'mint Center.  

The year the 'Sox won the world series and at the point under the bridge where Storrow Drive has a reverse-banked curve, someone helped the 'Sox get over "The Curse of the Bambino" by, ahhh...., "Adjusting" the sign attached to the Longfella Bridge - to wit:

And now, we return to Longfella's original discussion......

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Sacto Mitch posted:

Apologies, Longfella.

In all fairness, the thread did run over two months and through five pages of comments before unraveling.

There was a time when forum threads were built to a higher standard and we could expect months, even years, of unwavering focus. Today though, comments show up here from all sorts of dubious sources. It's just another thing you have to expect when following a replica forum.

 

It's worse on the VWVortex forum... lol

David Stroud posted:
*LongFella posted:

I like how my build thread turned into a deep depth on the psychological affects of naming your car...

That's some madness right there...

I don't name my car anything yet my Wife will call the GPS a Bitch sometimes.  You call yourself LongFella and assume we should be ok with that. Go figure.....or should we ask why ?

*LongFella was an online gamer tag I got a awhile ago. The astricks was part of the "clan" name I was in (*nrg) and helped keep our clan name at the top of the list.

Now that I have a baby, online gaming doesn't exist much. I do find time to play Hearthstone (Blizzard Entertainment) since its on the iPhone and iPad. My avatar photo is actually the Hearthstone logo...

Not that any of that is important HAHA!

Must people call me Brian, though

Someone picked up some hardware this morning! It was a long drive, rained the entire time, but I met a fellow SOC'r (who is an absolute funny "wee-man" if you ask me) so it was worth it.

Not 100% sure what the plans are, but I'm sure you all can help me decide. Keep the 1915cc? Pull it apart and have the case cleared for something bigger? Use the 1600cc and bore/clear it out? I do want to create a 356 look (really impressed with what Will Hesch is doing!). Maybe I should take it slow and see where it goes... Decisions, decisions, decisions...

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Breaking down the 1600cc now. It hasn't been run in a long time. I got this engine to practice on. I've never done a full case opening break down, so this will be good to practice on. I was thinking of building this one out to the 2000cc+ territory...

 

I'd love to hear your thoughts on what you see in the pictures below. Obviously, the rust on the valves is not a good thing...

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ALB posted:

Looks like your typical grungy, high mileage 1600. The rockers on the 1915 are VW; look at where the pushrod cup is situated to tell if they are 1.1's (in the middle of the rocker) or 1.25's (offset higher, or towards the shaft).

Rocker- CB 1.25

Thanks!

The first set of pictures are definitely VW rockers.

the second set on the 1915 look different. It's almost as if they have an additional part where the rocker touches the valve springs. That's not on the 1600...

Once I start the breakdown of the 1915, I'll know for sure. If they are 1.1 then I can use them on the 1600 and upgrade the 1915 to 1.25's...

Yeah, they have a different  adjuster (they swivel and don't wear like the stock ones do with higher valve lift), but the 2 horizontal raised lines over the shaft area and the VW forged as part of the rocker tell us it's a factory part. Take one rocker off and compare the pushrod cup area to the pic I gave you.

*LongFella posted:

The 1600 definitely needs some work. So the big question is... Keep it a 1600, or use it to go bigger then the 1915???

If the 1915 is running well and you want/can afford to build the 1600 into something bigger (and are into the challenge) then leave the 1915 alone (other than installing it in your car) and redo the 1600. You'll have to decide your budget, how big you want to go and how much power you want out of it. Will you build it yourself or send it out?

ALB posted:
*LongFella posted:

The 1600 definitely needs some work. So the big question is... Keep it a 1600, or use it to go bigger then the 1915???

If the 1915 is running well and you want/can afford to build the 1600 into something bigger (and are into the challenge) then leave the 1915 alone (other than installing it in your car) and redo the 1600. You'll have to decide your budget, how big you want to go and how much power you want out of it. Will you build it yourself or send it out?

The plan would be to build it myself. I've engulfed myself in research and books on the air-cooled engine. It really would be a matter of sizing it out and what parts to go with...

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Got a little more work done on the 1600 this morning. I would have done more, but I'm feeling a little fuzzy from the b-day guys night out drinking followed by the amazing Deadpool movie (yes, I'm a comicon geek...)

not sure if you can notice, but the piston head hole thingy the pin goes through is no longer round. LOL! I had to makeshift a socket to pound out the pin. I'm assuming the Pistons heads are no longer good. The pin fits nicely in the rods though. I'll measure the gap where the rods connect as here is a little play.

also got the fly wheel off and notice the flywheel seal wasn't put in correctly and had a small leak. There's also a good amount of play back and forth when moving the crank pulley.

looking over the case,  I don't see any cracks...at least to the naked eye. It looks to be a really solid AS41 case. Next round, get the case open and see what's inside. 

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Finally got the case apart! Wasn't too complicated.

Question for the experts...

When I took the oil drain plate off I noticed so large metal chucks (not good). After pulling the case apart, I searched everywhere for a visible sign... The only thing I think it could be is by the distributed gear (see photo). Here's a cylinder type piece and it's got some sharp edges that look like it was broke some how. What is it?

I'll get some more photos up of everything and you guys can go to town and school me on stuff

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If when you had disassembled the motor you found everything in decent condition I would say move on give it a try and rebuild it yourself and see how that goes.... however with the large debris you have , at this juncture I strongly recommend that you have this motor inspected by someone that has the necessary knowledge to be able to correctly advise you or you will surely be doing it twice. Alan

Alan Merklin posted:

If when you had disassembled the motor you found everything in decent condition I would say move on give it a try and rebuild it yourself and see how that goes.... however with the large debris you have , at this juncture I strongly recommend that you have this motor inspected by someone that has the necessary knowledge to be able to correctly advise you or you will surely be doing it twice. Alan

Thanks for the advice Doc!

I just finished taking everything apart. After the debris find and not knowing "where" it came from... I'll take the case in and have it cleaned and checked thoroughly. There are a few places around my house (Low Bugget, DRP, etc.) I can take it to for inspection. I don't even think this case has ever been lined bored and most (if not all) the internal parts are OEM..

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