Lane: Raydots are good mirrors. You could paint the body of the mirror the colour of the car, and leave the retaining edge in raw metal. That gives a nice look.
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I want those wheels! Anybody got the owner's address? I could pay a late night visit 
Bob: I like what you did with the mirrors. I've thought of either body colored or black, if I run black steelies.
Getting to this party a little late but If its an outlaw shouldn't the car have wide 5's? Scott Sloan's old car which we use as the outlaw bench mark would look incomplete without wide 5's. I know that 300 hp cars need wider Porsche wheels but if the car is 230 hp or less I'd definitely go wide 5. My 2 cents.
Wide fives are really the best look for a Speedster. I'd have them on my car if I could. In fact, I've been trying to figure out how to do that, but it's pretty well impossible.
Bob: IM S6 posted:Wide fives are really the best look for a Speedster. I'd have them on my car if I could. In fact, I've been trying to figure out how to do that, but it's pretty well impossible.
I have to ask... why didn't you have Henry do that for you while he was building the car? Your car would be well worth having those $3200 wheels that Ted bought for his.
Wide 5s are valid for 356As and Bs, but not Cs. The car is modeled after the T5-B ('62-'63) or T6-C ('64-'65), the main difference being the C has 4-wheel disks which used a 5x130 bolt pattern rather than the 5x205 (wide 5) pattern. I guess this means I could go either way, but I need to check with Carey.
mcdusty posted:Bob: IM S6 posted:Wide fives are really the best look for a Speedster. I'd have them on my car if I could. In fact, I've been trying to figure out how to do that, but it's pretty well impossible.
I have to ask... why didn't you have Henry do that for you while he was building the car? Your car would be well worth having those $3200 wheels that Ted bought for his.
I couldn't see how Wide Fives could be modified to fit on a 911 suspension set up. They really wouldn't be Wide Fives with a 5x130 mounting. The best I could have done would be to have standard steel wheels in 16" and 6" & 8" widths.
mcdusty posted:If you really like your car consider changing the front beam.
Not trying to hijack. But changing the front beem seems like a job and a half. Not the actual changing part but more the trying to get the size right. How much harm can a 1 inch spacer do?
With enough money and time I'm sure it could be done, Bob, but it would probably involve custom machining new hubs and moving/fabricating caliper mounts. You can do pretty well anything if you throw enough money at it. I see the $$$ adding up pretty fast on this one...
Paul- Changing where the wheels/tires sit in the front suspension by an inch is A LOT! You're better off (and safer) with the proper width beam under the car. It will handle better as well. Al
I've got big-bucks Biven's Al wide 5s. They're pretty cool.
But you know what? They're no more cool than Marty's wheels, or the wheels on Rick Davis' IM6, or the Fuchs on Dale Bates' "blackie".
The grass is always greener over on the other side. Roll what you like.
Lane: we have several "C", so-called 'Outlaw' coupes in the local club, plus a couple more often show up at the German Car Day show in Boston each year. Let me scrub through my archives and see if I can find photos of them for ya, but frankly, East Coast Outlaw coupes are seldom as cool as those on the west coast.
You might also google "Emory" coupes for photos, too.
Given all that, though, and what Stan said, if I were you I might find a photo of a "C" coupe in the color you like and photoshop a bunch of different wheels under it til you find what YOU like. I thought 5-spoke Fuchs were cool back in the 1980's, way before I started building Pearl, and simply knew, THAT was the look I wanted. It took a couple of iterations before I finally arrived at the right Fuchs look, but I got there (and I'm probably not done yet).
You'll do the same, I'm sure. Have fun on the journey!
Well Stan I think we all have this dream build and we keep working at it, working at it then all of a sudden were DONE... and we are satisfied with the level or extent the project got to.... Then you realize you probably, most assuredly went overboard with it.
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Ya think? If only it were the wheels that were the "bridge too far". In reality, they were just the thin edge of the wedge.
Someone would probably trade you even-up a stock width beam for a narrowed one.
I understand that the C did not have wide 5's but this is an outlaw. And in my humble opinion any outlaw will look best with wide 5's. I get it now. You want a period correct outlaw. My car is a 59 D replica but I have Carey's 356C replica wheels on it because I just like the way they look. Maybe you could have Carey do something with his 356C replica wheels. They would be cheap and they could be used with a 4 lug setup. You would have to use hubcaps which may contradict the outlaw theme. Each to there own. Wide 5's look like you mean business.
Budget is also a factor, but we're a way off from that decision since the final production spec isn't known yet.
Phil brings up a point that I thought about yesterday; that is, Carey has a LOT of experience doing really cool stuff for others who appreciate his vision AND he usually has a way of making his visions real.
I know you already have a dialog going with him, but see what he and Kevin think will look good along the way - I bet that their ideas are way better than pretty good. And then, there's Chuck Beck's Vision, too....I would love to see what he thinks up!
I'm still digging for outlaw pics, but it seems that people in the Northeast think that removing chrome trim and adding leather hood straps turns their car into an outlaw or something.... Who built Anand's coupe? (the one featured on Jay Leno's Garage - Willhoit?) That guy did a super job, too.
Phil IM356D posted:I understand that the C did not have wide 5's but this is an outlaw. And in my humble opinion any outlaw will look best with wide 5's. I get it now. You want a period correct outlaw. My car is a 59 D replica but I have Carey's 356C replica wheels on it because I just like the way they look. Maybe you could have Carey do something with his 356C replica wheels. They would be cheap and they could be used with a 4 lug setup. You would have to use hubcaps which may contradict the outlaw theme. Each to there own. Wide 5's look like you mean business.
Which replicaC wheels are you taking about? The ones on his site now with the 4 lugs? They look like the original wheels used on the first envemos. Look good with a nipple cap. They look more like a wide 5 rim. I have original 911/912 rims on my car that are similiar to the 356c wheels. Just wider. They don't have the D shaped vent holes.
Yes, the 4 lug wheels on the Beck site. I bought some and powdercoated them black. I know they are not perfect reproductions but they have the 10 hole pattern instead of 8 holes. Close enough. I like them. On my car they look great.
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I like the way they look on your car Phil. That's where I got the idea.
They do look great.
Here they are on an early envemo. 
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I heard say that Lane's new ride will NOT be assembled at Carlisle, like his last one, in one afternoon. Carey is going to do the heavy lifting on this one. All to the good. HOWEVER, it is clear to me that this will indeed be another very public build. All the brethren here on the SOC are going to try their damnedest to "help" Lane build his car. We have months to go gents, and are on page three already. Many recommendations so far, I wonder if anything settled exactly yet . . .??
Weeeeell I've settled on colors - I think. I know it'll look like a Porsche 356 B/C and go like stink. What else is there? ;-)
Brass thingie delete
You DAMN right!!!!!!
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ooooooooooooooo.........
That coupe just above, with an EJ25 and appropriate goodies.
Yes, THAT would scratch my itch.
I bet that would shave a few minutes off of transit time to the local Ice Cream place.
An automatic (with paddle shifters, natch) would be good, too, so Kathy could drive it. It would also need a shelf or something above the engine for Sophie to sleep on.
I'm sure Carey could accommodate Sophie. Not so sure about the paddle shifters.
lots of coupe owners on this site
GERD posted:lots of coupe owners on this site
Don't you mean LOTS OF COUPE OWNERS ON THIS SITE.
Joe Fortino posted:GERD posted:lots of coupe owners on this site
Don't you mean LOTS OF COUPE OWNERS ON THIS SITE.
Good one.
I thought most of the coupe owners sold their coupes...
Hey Lane, did you look at what Chip Foose did to this car... The bumper treatment is quite nice, they removed the front signal lights, 911 lights and vw Oval Window added. Nice outlaw look
Check out this blue Lane
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Tom: That's awfully nice, especially in that light, but not quite what I'm going for.
Foose's oval window treatment is the bomb....beautiful coupe!
I thought that Foose should have been slapped upside the head for trying to make a 356 look like a Beetle.
Lane. In watercooled cars I know at this point Henry doesn't make an outlaw without a front bumper. Under the front bumper is a cut out to allow air flow to the radiator. Bumper hides cut out. Does Carey offer a watercooled outlaw without a front bumper? I like outlaws with and without bumpers, but they look a bit more sporty without them.