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What a great state I live in!

 

First off, I can cruise around, top down, in warm, golden sunshine while New Englanders are tunneling down through 12 feet of snow just to find their garages.

 

But better still, California still issues personalized old-style black license plates with golden yellow numbers that will look oh-so-cool on my ivory-colored Speedster. No dealing with sleazy, after-market operators on shady websites. These are gen-yoo-wine government-issue stand-up plates. 

 

After struggling for months to find a brilliant personalized plate that someone else hadn't already thought of, I'm on the DMV website to order my plates. But what's this? Why are there TWO ways to order the black plates and which one should I use?

 

There's the 'Year of Manufacture' plate for cars 1969 and older. Since my VS started out as a 69 VW and is still registered with DMV as such, I should easily qualify for a YOM plate. Here's some of the 2008 press release announcing the most recent changes in the law:

 

 

This new law expands the "Year of Manufacture" license plate program to authorize the owner of a automobile ... that is a 1969 or older model year ... to utilize Year of Manufacture license plates, and would increase the original application fee from $35 to $45. The $10 annual renewal fee ... remain(s) the same.

 

The new law would require the inclusion of two active license plate series into the Year of Manufacture program:

 

Black background with yellow characters - issued 1963 - 1969;

Blue background with yellow characters - issued 1970 - 1990.

 

To qualify for use, plate configuration cannot have a current record on DMV files.

 

 

OK great, that confirms they're talking about new, personalized, plates - a plate the applicant designs.

 

But then, there's this bit of DMV-ese:

 

 

The year sticker displayed on the plates must coincide with the year model of the vehicle being registered ... Plates for 1964 through 1972 must be presented with a sticker that matches the year model of the vehicle the plates will be used on. For example, a 1966 Chevy Nomad Wagon will require that a set of black and yellow plates with a 1966 sticker issued by DMV in that year be presented for use.

 

 

So, wha...? I need to already have a set of old, rusty black plates with a 1969 sticker on them to get new plates?

 

Strike One.

 

Well, how about the other way - the recently enacted Legacy Plate system? That supposedly supplies newly-minted personalized old-style black plates and lets you put them on any model year car? After a year trial period, enough people requested the plates that DMV is supposedly now issuing them, even though the online form is still called a 'Pre-Order' form.

 

The web site still says distribution will begin 'in summer of 2015 or later' and I can't find out how much the renewal fee is (initial cost is $50 vs $45 for YOM plates). Renewal will probably be more than the $10 for YOM plates. Renewal for a standard vanity plate is about $38, I think.

 

Has anyone gotten a black plate from this new Legacy Plate system? Do I need to just send in my check and wait until summer 'or later'?

 

Has anyone used the YOM program for plates? Are my assumptions good or am I, as usual, wandering aimlessly in a fog of misapprehension?

 

Someone? Anyone?

 

 

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I have done the YOM plates two different times. Both successfully.

 

Here is how it worked for me:

1) I restored/rebuilt a 1955 Teardrop Trailer a few years back. I just didn't look right with a white and blue plate on it. I wanted to run the original vintage black and yellow 1955 plate.

 

 

  1. Locate an ORIGINAL 1955* license plate.
  2. Locate a 1955 registration 'tab'. (Back in 1955 they used metal tabs for registration not the stickers we use today)
  3. Take registration, 1955 license plate, and 1955 metal tab to DMV and request to register the antique plate to my antique vehicle.
  4. Fill out the special form
  5. Pay the fee
  6. Wait

At this point the kind lady at DMV handed me a temporary registration card and said the registration was 'pending' until Sacramento could verify that the license plate was official and that it was not currently registered to another vehicle. 3 weeks later I received a registration card.

 

* A '1955' license plate is actually a 1951 plate with a 1955 metal tab placed over the 1951 year stamp.

 

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Second time I did this was with my 1967 replica Speedster. Again, the classic lines of the speedster begged for an era correct plate.  Ideally I would use a 1957 plate, but my car is based on a 67 pan. So I would have to use a 1967 plate.  This is actually semi period correct because in 1963 California DMV did a mandatory plate swap. Any vehicle currently using pre 1963 plates was required to turn in their existing plates for the new size/color plates being issued in 1963.

 

To register the Speedster with a YOM plate, I followed the exact same process as the trailer except I had to locate two serviceable 1967 era plates and a 1967 registration sticker. The sticker AND plate had to be original from the DMV and free of the DMV system.

 

  1. Locate an ORIGINAL 1967* license plates (yes, you need TWO!)
  2. Locate a 1967 registration 'sticker'**. (you only need one of these)
  3. Take registration showing that the car was a 1967, 1967 license plate, and 1967 sticker to DMV and request to register the license plate to my 1967 vehicle.
  4. Fill out the special form
  5. Pay the fee
  6. Wait

At this point the kind lady at DMV handed me a temporary registration card and said the registration was 'pending' until Sacramento could verify that the license plate and the registration sticker were official and that they were not currently registered to another vehicle. After 4 weeks I received a letter from the DMV saying I didn't include the registration number listed on the 1967 registration sticker.

 

DOH! I forgot to write that on the form! I updated the form and went back to dmv. Repeat everything after step 3...  3 weeks later I received a registration card.

 

 

* A '1967' license plate is actually any plate yellow number/lettered plate with a black field issued from 1963 to 1969. Commonly referred to as a 'black plate'. 

 

** A 1967 registration sticker is 'blue'. Other years vary by color.

You'll notice the 'blue' sticker on the left. I was lucky to find a pair of excellent used plates of the correct year with the sticker already attached.  

 

The ONE THING I would caution anyone on when buying a used plate for the YOM program - Make sure the plate is guaranteed 'free' or 'clear' of the DMV system. Both plates I purchased off of eBay were stated 'guaranteed free and clear'. During that 3 week waiting period, you are waiting for Sacramento to prove this.

 

This process is actually VERY simple so long as you have official plates and an official registration sticker.

 

Hope this helps,

Ted

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Ted, thanks for this.

 

So the YOM program is ONLY for old plates you already have in hand. Maybe it was this language on the application form that made me think you could order a personalized YOM plate from DMV:

 

 

"...Configuration of letters and numbers cannot carry any connotations offensive to good taste and decency..."

 

If it's an existing plate, wouldn't DMV already have signed off on the content? 

 

So it looks like the only option for an old-look personalized plate is the new Legacy Plate program. I wonder if they're actually shipping those yet.

 

 

Correct, if you want old look and personalized you're going to need to go with the legacy program or get really lucky.  I'm still looking for 'TRP 356' or '356 TRP' from 1967.

All kidding aside, you do see old plates pop up on eBay with a desirable number / letter combo from time to time. I purchased a plate from Wyoming that has 356 in the number sequence. Hey, why not? it was $5.00!

Ted

I went online to the Legacy Plates section, filled out the form, mailed my check, and now I'm standing by.  I opted for non-personalized plates so I'll get a random three lettered three numbered plate.  It'll be black background yellow letters/numbers but it'll most likely be in the current font and it will be a newer more modern reflective plate as per the current DMV regs.

 

When the plate arrives I will have to pay a transfer fee and turn in my current plates.  registration fees after that will be whatever my current fees are now.

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