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Holy SCHLITZ!!! 
I assume it must not be streetable since it has no cooling. Just a drag car?
OMG ........Dear Santa !
11,000 rpm redline!
Johannes Persson is a genius who has applied his efforts and resources to one end: to build the absolute, bottom-line, last-word, take-no-prisoners, Mac-daddy, King Kong flat 4.
Nobody else is even playing the same game.
Bless him! Mr. Persson is a force of nature.
YIKES, that's crazy awesome! At those mind-boggling RPMs how does the engine stay together in one piece? 
Swedes. Usually goofing off or drunk but when they put their minds to something....
Is there a streeable version?
Marty Grzynkowicz posted:Is there a streeable version?
Yes.
Perhaps not of the 11K RPM 1600, but JPM builds engines as well as some of the best parts in the world for Type 1s. Get out your big-boy billfold.
I'm clearly not well in my mind given the blood and treasure I've sacrificed on the alter of air-cooled speed. But no matter how deeply I've gotten into the guts of this stuff, I've never been able to spring for Mr. Persson's parts. A cam/lifter set is in 4 figures. His heads are works of art, and cost something like $4K when I decided I still had some attachment to reality.
However, the guy is nothing at all like the typical octogenarian, shoestring, secret-society, back-door speakeasy operation as most VW drag-race shops. The parts he builds are on another plane. All the Scandahoovian dudes I've looked at are deadly serious about this stuff. If the typical SoCal VW guy is playing checkers, the northern European guys (Johannes Persson, Torben Alstrup, et al) are playing three level chess, on the space shuttle, with all the pieces floating around. Johannes Persson is a the top of that heap.
He does 4" bore stuff. He's a partner in CSP's new merged header manufacture. Those throttle bodies on that little 11K RPM mill? Adapted from motorcycle stuff. I'm half-expecting some sort of cam phasing or something next. The dude is a freaking genius.
If I were even more sick, I'd have him screw an engine together for me. As it is: I'm just clad he's out there-- if only to look at his stuff and dream about possibility.
Honestly, for that sort of money I'd rather have Bob's setup.
Ron O posted:Honestly, for that sort of money I'd rather have Bob's setup.
if UR referring to the bike I just got it recently 2003, 22K miles, babied, $5000..alot of bike for the money,,new replacement equivalent about $28K(ouch)
I give that bike a lot of respect, no crazy antics with me, 67 retired and want to see 68+.
I think he meant another Bob (the one with the Porsche 3.6 L in the back end). 
Looking at that head/FI combo...would that even fit in a Speedster? looks like it's widen the engine about 6 inches.
Ed, you are missing the point
But I do know it fit into a bug and had to cut carb windows out.
It'd fit into a Beck. Hmmm... Maybe then I could finally beat Gordon.
Ron O posted:Honestly, for that sort of money I'd rather have Bob's setup.
Me too. 
But I'm still looking for just the right set of wheels...
I don't think I'm missing the point. This is the Speedster forum. Any engine discussed at length needs to be Speedster-installable! That's the rule as I understand it, anyway.
Lane wrote: "Maybe then I could finally beat Gordon."
hmmmmmmm...........
NFW, Dude. Sorry.
If I had that motor, I'd figure a way to stuff it in a speedster!
I just figured it out...someone get me that motor
Of course, Lane, after I wrote that post just above I was reminded about the night I came up against a Fiat 500, all black, little badging but for this little red Scorpion on the fender (I didn't see the hood). We take off out of the light and this thing destroys me.
At the next light (about 3/4 mile away when he had me by 15+ lengths) I ask what he's got in it (BTW: he did NOT look like a "motorhead") and he says "it's a 1,400cc engine with a turbo". He didn't know how much power, but their website says 160hp and 183 ft. lbs. of torque (!!!!)
So, Lane, if you can beat one of those, you can beat Pearl.
My suggestion is, don't even try....... But, GOD! They must be one hell of a lot of fun!
One of my track day buds has one of those. It's quick, but riding with him for a few laps made me sore for days. The leather upholstery is slippery and there are no, repeat, NO handholds in that car for passengers. I had to brace myself on the door and the roof with my arms. Wore my butt out!
He's a better driver than I am, but my BMW is faster.
Natalie could take that Apartments. 175hp on 1811 lbs.
Okay, you two. Enough of this 'mine is bigger than yours' stuff. You guys go head to head, and I'll take on the winner...
But, that FIAT 500 is a very mean machine. I think that is the model that Dave Mitchell has and drove up to Henry's gathering last year. Quite a sweet car.
To bad they're so Fugly.
Short money for a used Abarth. They're all over the web for <$15K, very gently used.
It'd be kinda' fun for a knockabout. Unfortunately, I'm afraid I'd have to turn in my man-card in this part of the world though. Out here, anything smaller than an F150 or less powerful than a Hellcat is fit only "for girls" and men of questionable masculinity. I get away with one clown car because it's so freaking cool and unusual. A second tiny-tunes car would likely get me a rainbow decal on my windshield.
^ Bwaaaa Haaaaaa, good one, Stan!
Stan Galat, '05 IM, 2276, Nowhere, USA posted:...a used Abarth...kinda' fun for a knockabout. Unfortunately, I'm afraid I'd have to turn in my man-card in this part of the world though. Out here, anything smaller than an F150 or less powerful than a Hellcat is fit only "for girls" and men of questionable masculinity...
Maybe you could fit a gun rack on the back.
Mount longhorns on the front.