just bought another cmc ,this time I want more power (insert grunt like Tim Allen)I have a 1997 Subaru outback 2.5L with a bad trans at my shop wondering if there is anyone in new jersey, that does the conversions from vw to Subaru in Jersey are. see pics
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There are a few Subi conversion companies all around the country. Google "Subaru conversion East Coast" and you'll get lots of hits. Many conversion companies specialize in a specific swap, e.g., Subi engines to VW vans. Some sell parts only, some do the work. There are also a few online sites dedicated solely to Subi swaps, many of which have lots of helpful info. I think Samba has a conversion thread on its site.
Best of luck and please keep the group informed of your progress.
Best of luck, Sylvio. You should have fun with it. To start though, please take a measurement between the rear frame rails to see if you have enough room for the 2.5l Soob. I have an older IM and the frame rails measure 29" inside. My Soob 2.2l engine measures about 28 1/2" and fits ok. I believe the 2.5l Soob is just over 1" wider than the 2.2 l .
It's is exhausting for some....
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Sylvio...I just re-read your post and you say this stuff is at your shop. What kind of shop to you have ?
yes david , my car is a cmc .I do light mechanical work and sell and install auto accessories(lifts,racks,toolboxes,electronics, stereos,suspension,brakes,exhausts,welding, engine work,ect........
I may do it myself if someone has got a thread on here I can follow lol.
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Giday, Sylvio. I don't have a thread on here on how to do it but I can tell you how I did mine. I have a Word document on hand that I could email to you to give you an overview on the process and giving some detail on the parts I used.
I did some things to make life easier for me, like rip out the fuel injection system and just install one central Weber carb. I also did away with the Soob ignition and went with a simple crank fire Megajolt Ford EDIS system. There's a mid '90's Saab rad up front. I've got a nice diagram of a cooling system that now works perfectly.
I'm improving my engine mount system and will head over the border this afternoon to pick up some Small Car mount parts. Life is not completely perfect, I do have an irritating clutch chatter now that needs to get dealt with.
Here's one pic of the engine almost ready to go in the car. 30,000 miles and not one adjustment needed on that carb. The second pic shows the nasty looking piece I brought home from the junkyard for $300 to get started.
It sounds like you have the credentials to do it yourself.
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Sylvio. Good luck with your project. If you follow Stroud's advice on the cooling system--in particular the use of brass bleeder valves on the high spots--you'll be halfway home.
If you have a complete car (and not just a junkyard engine), the way to get her going is to pull the wiring out with the engine. Get the ECU as well, and the igniter, and all these other weird little bits that are bolted up under the dashboard. It's a PITA (here are some basics) but when you're done the motor will think it's still in the Suby, and you'll retain the benefits of EFI & the rest of the engine management system.
Tom Shiels will cut and massage the wiring harness as required for your application. It'll cost about $700.
You will have to make a "wheel o' death" vehicle speed sensor like this. No biggie.
The HD VW motor mounts and transmission mid-mount system will hold it all fine. More is better, but not needed until you start beating the crap out of it.
Finally, to Stroud's concern with the width of the DOHC engine: if you can't fit the four cam heads, get yourself a set of earlier 2.2 single cam heads and a set of cometic head gaskets. Done right, the "Frankenmotor" build will give you at least as much grunt as the stock DOHC setup, and it fits right where the 2.2 fits.
Sylvio,
Keep me first in mind if you want to part with the Type 1 motor if it still has a decent heart beat ...send particulars to :
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Minor thread drift here. Re: the Frankenmotor...Ed, are you saying that the EJ25 block is the same width as the EJ22....like I could do one and it would still be the very same width as my stock EJ22 right now ? If so, hmmmm.
I think so, David. Don't know though, and have heard that the 2.5 can has some minor issues with piston slap because of the shorter skirts/longer stroke (79mm instead of 75mm).
It is a build that can and has happened, though. More torque, lower down, and more horses, also at lower revs. The 2.5 sohc supposedly tops around 5500 or even 5000 rpm depending on cam and any head mods.