Long story short, I've had enough grief from the worn-out heads I inherited when I bought my my Speedster. I'm going to replace them with new. I'm happy with the performance of my 1776, when it's running, so I want to purchase a similar setup. I need to know how valves are measured to determine which heads are installed. Is the diameter determined by reading the ID of the seat, the OD of the valve, or something else?
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Usually it's the diameter of the valve head.......Bruce
It’s yours to do anything you want, but if this were my 1176 with 40 Dells, I’d bolt on a set of CB Panchitos and never look back.
Panchitos would be good, or at least a pair of 044s...... Either would be great but realize that if you’re going to larger valves to match the flow of those Dell 40s going in to the heads, then you should also be looking at the diameter of the exhaust tubes and match those to the flow coming out of the heads, too. You may find that what you currently have for an exhaust system is fine, or you may want to increase the exhaust tube size, too. It’s all supposed to match to handle the flow properly.
We only use CB Performance Ponchito heads on all of our engines .....spend the $$ once.
VSpyder posted:We only use CB Performance Ponchito heads on all of our engines .....spend the $$ once.
Greg, you impress me more every time you type something.
Depending on the cam and rpm range you're looking to make power at, the Panchitos could be too big. A small engine such a 1776 would be a little 'soggy' down low and unless you're looking to make power in the 6500-7,000 rpm range a set of properly ported stock valve (35x32mm) heads would be a better choice for all around drivability.
Ah, but you know the solution to that, don't you Al?
Don't make small engines.
By my recollection, the Panchitos are made for small displacement engines—that's why they're named that. Downs claims he has flow numbers in the ported 044 range but intake velocity figures that are much better. That makes the heads "snappy" on milder, smaller builds. Low and mid torque, no soggy bottom AND very good top end power.
Again, according to Pat and Pat's dynos.
If he's right (and I have no cause to doubt him) then Panchitos are the best bet for anyone building a street engine from 1776 to 2332.
A guy making a stocker or very mild "high miler" build could probably do better with smaller heads, yeah.
And of course race guys may want more port volume to make power at higher rpm.
But for us—guys driving engines that peak between say 5500 and 6500: Panchitos.
From my 2110 build sheet:
044 Los Panchito cylinder heads, CNC reshaped combustion chambers, chromoly retainers, single groove valves and locks.This engine produces 150HP at 5600 rpm. Peak torque is 153 ft lbs from 4200-4600 rpm. Compression is 8.8-1. Ignition timing is 15 degrees at 1k rpm, 30 degrees at 2800 rpm. Carb jetting- 195 air correction, 140 mains and 60 idle jets
They've only got 40 mm intakes. The magic is how Pat's been able to get them to flow, without increasing the port volume.
They really would be perfect on a 1776. Or 1914. Or 2007. Or 2110. Pat's even put them on 2276s and 2332s and they made good power.
