Morro Bay - the Good, the Bad, the Ugly

Forgive me ... I forgot to say a big THANK YOU to all of you who have posted your gratitude and appreciation for the efforts put forth by Sharon and myself. Your thanks makes us feel as though we did our job correctly. Thank you for your support.

Dusty and LMS

Morro Bay - the Good, the Bad, the Ugly

We are finally back from our jaunt around California and Arizona and now that I have had time to skim over the HUNDREDS of posts I guess it is time to put in my two cents worth

WORKS FOR ME
I HAD LOTS OF FUN. THOUGHT YOU AND THE LMS DID A GREAT JOB.
I WILL NEVER DO THE PARADE AGAIN THOUGH.

Dusty -- I'm go for the parade. Some may have no interest in doing the parade, but the remaining 30-40+ cars still makes for a good showing. Ann and I enjoyed the parade the previous two years and think the candy toss was a lot of fun. Most important, for all the reasons you mentioned, the group's participation demonstrates good will and provides entertainment for the folks of Morro. They enjoy it, they appreciate it, they look forward to it, and I for one don't find it at all beneath my dignity to provide it.

We would like to see it back on the schedule.

Mark and Ann

PS: Our freeway breakdown was a shattered gland nut on the flywheel.

dusty, thank you for all the time/effort/phone calls/emails/faxes/begging/cajoling/letter writing/pleading/organizing/etc. etc. etc. what a job that was.
i couldn't attend but i am sure everyone had a great time.
having your own business i don't see how you have time.thank you from all of us at SO.com

Before this thread gets out of hand, I don't think anyone does not agree that Dusty and the LMS did a great job with the Morro Bay Planning. This shit is not easy. Having to plan meals for this many people, and a place that will except all our cars and us.....
We have many personalities, and not everyone wants to partake in all the activities...I don't feel like the Parade is below me, I actually participate in a lot of them here in the south bay...
I chose not to go wine tasting so my wife could do some antique shopping, Exxxcuse me.....
Rather than argue, I suggest some of you rebels who would like to change venue's, start throwing out some suggestions...If not, we will plan on Morro Bay again next year....
I spoke up on behalf of those who are a little disgruntled, personally I'll go anywhere the group decides

vince u r so ugly

my 2 cents
i like the area, but it is a large area, speaking of midstate.
perhaps paso robles would be nice again. it definitely needs to be mid state for all the guys up north.
i believe in this state in santa barbara to paso robles there are many other areas. i cannot speak for the 5 or 6 items dusty mentioned above but they are critical to be successful.
i will go where ever the group decides
but i will not do that parade.
we support that area by showing up and spending money, lots of money.
i would think the cc would appreciate that
if people want to see the cars the cc should let them know where we park them on sat
just my 2 cents
but again i think dusty and the lms did great and i had a tons of fun

Dusty and the (extra) LMS. I want to thank you both for everything and making us feel so welcome to the group. Even without a car, Bob and I had a wonderful time. But enough about that, how was the trip to Sedona. Find anything with enough guest rooms for all of us threatening to visit? Bob and Bob's wife Jessica #1...

I have one simple, but VERY big concern about the date of our annual gathering. We have been VERY fortunate for three years in a row now and just dodged the weather bullet. This year, we missed extremely bad weather by two days and in 2009, it was just one day. It's only a matter of time before we aren't so lucky and we have another weekend like four years ago at Paso Robles. I wasn't there that year, but from what I have read, instead of trying to find a Starbucks in the morning, everyone was trying to find a place to buy blue plumbers tape to seal up their cars.

I spoke with Dusty about it, at Morro Bay, and he explained that moving the date up to May or June would result in much higher motel rates, more expensive dinner rates, bigger crowds of tourists and much lower attendance by all of us.

I believe Dusty is correct and without him and the LMS, we wouldn't even be having an event, but I know I personally would be willing to pay double the rate for the almost 100% guaranty of warm dry weather in June and about an 80% guaranty for May. April is a crapshoot and sooner or later the dice are going to get wet.

Maybe what we need is a poll to determine how many people would not go if the room rates were going to double or triple.

Just my thoughts and again, a big THANK YOU to Dusty and the Lovely Miss Sharon for all their hard work.
Troy

Sarah and I prefer Morro or anywhere around the central coast because its closer to us. The further into summer we schedule this thing the more crowded it will be. As far as the wineries go, oppolo and or dover canyon are much more accomodating. After all is said, we had a great time and were impressed with the organization of the entire trip. Again, Thanks to all and we are certainly open to any discussions for change.

I agree that the Central coast works for most of us and although late April is ify at times, some have expressed a desire to keep it during the school year, for those with kids...perhaps bump it a few weeks to early May, say second week in May to keep a two week spread between the West and East coast meet.....

First, thanks Dusty and LMS.
Second, As this was our first year, I did not see a thimg I would change. (except one gift per person at the banquet)
Third, having volunteered my time in may groups, there is one simple rule. Unless you are willing to step up to the plate and assume responsibility just enjoy the ride.

Dale

Blake and I agree with concerns surrounding the weather. A few days before we left for Morro Bay the forecast showed rain as a possibility and we decided that would not go if the forecast did not change. We would rather have paid for services we did not use (hotel, banquet, etc) than drive in the rain. If it rained that would have been 2 more people who rsvp'd for the event and did not show. Thankfully the weather changed and we had beautiful weather and a wonderful weekend!

The one thing we would really like to see incorporated into the weekend is time to show our cars. An actual car show like the group used to do in Paso, not a pre-drive gathering. This would give us time to hang out with the group, see what people have been doing to their cars, and give us a chance to match the face with the speedy.

As for the location, we will go where the group goes. Our preference though, would be somewhere that warm weather can be expected (that's why I would like to see it go back to Paso -- unless, of course, this meet is moved to the height of summer, then Paso would be too hot). San Luis Obispo has reliably warm weather once the rain stops, generally May through September, though June through August are best).

Dusty & Sharon, you have always done a wonderful job planning this event. I know how much work goes into an event like this and the fact that you do it simply because you want to is very much appreciated. As I mentioned before, I now find myself with time on my hands and would be happy to help in any way that you need.

Jen

San Luis Obispo in May, that might be a good venue...
Easy access to all the surrounding area's, they must have plenty of lodging and Restaurants...perhaps a nice park setting...

Thank you Dusty and the LMS for the great trip to Morro Bay. I really enjoyed chatting with you. You are one talented guy! I couldn't find any "Deadshot Dusty" action on Youtube??

This was my first trip to Morro so I signed up for all the events! By looking at the map and leaving Malibu at 10:30 I assumed we were going to the lunch. A few days before the event I read route and removed me from the lunch. I wish I had known sooner.
Morro Bay was a great trip and a good place for our group. I just am not a wine person. Maybe next year have an option for a cruise up the coast OR the wine tasting?

Bill, I am glad you had a good time. That is what it is all about! Perhaps you misunderstand what the Winery Tours are all about. Many do not drink wine (or even like it) but they go along anyway because the tours are only a destination and a place to stop during a great drive through beautiful countryside with lots of twisty roads with others who drive the same cars and have the same driving interest. In other words .. camaradarie among Speedster fanciers. Part of the choice for these tours is back roads with very little traffic and always a good lunch in the middle. Coastal drives are nice and have good views but much more traffic to contend with. Personally I don't like driving in a straight line with trucks and SUVs surrounding me. Give me back country twisties anytime!! Please don't let the term "Wine Tour" determine your complete judgment of the activity.

Happy Trails,
Dusty and LMS

I just found out that the Northern CA and Southern CA 356 clubs plan to do their annual "North Meets South" in Morro Bay next year during the weekend of May 19.

For what it's worth.

Those bastards! 8-}

Dale,
That didn't take long. I was hoping someone would see the N/S 356 plans. They used to meet at San Luis Obispo, of course. Do you suppose there is a reason they are moving over to Morro Bay (see the list of criteria at the opening of this thread under THE UGLY)? Also please notice how much in advance their planning has started. Now is the time for those of you looking for a change to start making plans. Believe it or not these events don't happen overnight.

Happy Trails,
Dusty

The 356 guys have been moving their venues around - on purpose - each year. The North has jumped between SLO and Cambria; the South tried Solvang last year (wasn't good).

They have found - perhaps a bit like some in this group (ironic, huh?) - that going to the same place year-after-year is, well, kinda, uh, the same.

Whatever Dusty decides to do with the group, I would agree with whoever said we've been dodging a big bullet called "rainy weather." This year especially, with the El Ni

John is correct. They are looking for a change in venue. 39 cars had already registered before the end of the recent NMS but all reservations were cancelled by the organizers to eliminate some shenanigans that have happened with room reservations in the past.

They will open the host hotels (two, because there is not one place with a sufficient number of rooms) in October and only people that have paid the event entry will be allowed to reserve a room on that weekend.

For those that didn't go on the "Wine Tour", Dusty is right. It is a fun ride with a chance to stop and BS. If you like wine, that is just a plus.

I have no problem with the parade. The part I don't care for is the long staging time, but again it's a chance to BS.

I agree that longer at the parking area is a good thing to get to know each other better.

As far as rain goes, I am probably one of the closest to the meet, but I will not drive around the block in the rain, so I totally understand the people with long drives.

Scott and I are in the area will be glad to check out parks, wineries, roads or anything someone has a notion for.

Oh, speaking of events, I entered my Speedie in the Warbirds Car Show yesterday. I know we will have fun at this event. There are many cars and airplances to look at. July 10 is the date. Save it! More later.

It seems that the REAL 356 bunch are even more devious and dastardly than our best trouble-makers!

...don't EVEN get me started!

John Leader said:

The 356 guys have been moving their venues around - on purpose - each year. The North has jumped between SLO and Cambria; the South tried Solvang last year (wasn't good).

They have found - perhaps a bit like some in this group (ironic, huh?) - that going to the same place year-after-year is, well, kinda, uh, the same.

John my friend not exactly correct. The North Group (356CAR) has been in SLO using the Embassy Suites since 2002. The South group (356CLUB) has been switching locations of late. The reason is because the Cambria Pines (2003&2005) they used has gotten VERY high priced plus not as car friendly because they built more cottages on open space used for the car show. The 07 fiasco in Solvang was surely a bust (I was there) but an even greater bust in 09 because of the late May date that was boycotted by most everyone from the North group. I have not yet heard the results of the 2010 NMS held last weekend.

I tried to move the SLO event on 2006 but was voted down by the board. They were right. SLO is a very friendly town to have a car event. Sure it is the "same old" place but that said there are worse places to go to every year.

Having chaired events in the past I know what Dusty has gone through to pull off the event. The worst thing is to plan for 50 and only have 12 show up. That is bad form by those that are no shows.

SHAME ON YOU!

No, I would not go if the rates double or triple, some of us are not loaded with cash. The date is definitely an issue, especially for those of us with kids in school.

I say get Theron to put up a poll on the front page and see what the majority wants. Who knows I may not have a speedster by then, so it won't matter to me. We shall see.....

We don't need a Poll. We need the folks who want a change to step up to the plate. If you REALLY have a good idea please post it with details and let us ALL consider it and look into it.

Do you want this to be done or are you just blowing off steam? Have you a good idea or do you just want attention? Looking for an improvement or just like to grumble?? Is this a little harsh???? OK, but we only have about two months to get our #$%$ together so plans can be made, so "get it in gear" or decide on someone else to take the helm.

A number have offered to "check into ...." but have not yet picked up the flag and run with it. Go ahead and get details, details, details and forward to me. (dustyjohn@aol.com)

I think this is the best group of car people I have ever been involved with and I have a certain affection for every one of you but I am really tired of complaints and dissention from a few who do not truly contribute to the group. This has become a rather good sized event and takes more and more effort and planning, but it is now at the point where it is going to involve more of a planned (financial .. maybe prepay an Event Fee) committment from those attending in order to make things happen and keep the stores/restaurants/hotels happy (in advance). Are you ready to pay a "fee" to cover most of the weekend (in other words, the Prepay for what we do rather than just say YES and not show up) or let it continue "loose" and degenerate due to members who only wish to let others do it.

I get nothing out from all of this except a great joy from making people happy with the Gathering and I don't mind putting my limited resources on the line (come on... I am a retired Saddlemaker) but I need your full support to know this is important. I want to make this better and better but I have limited ideas from 1300 miles away and am in the throes of relocating (takes even more of my time!) Without your serious and complete input I cannot make this improvement. [NOTE: I have learned, in corporate business for many years, that committees do not work. Give me ideas, let me make decisions. Most of you will be happy with the outcome!]

OK, that is enough of my "rant". I really hope it is helpful. I leave it up to you.... and I truly think of most of you as extended family.

Happy Trails,

Dusty

You know what, Dusty?
I think you should go ahead and do what you want to do. You've made all the connections with the merchants and vendors in Morro Bay, so it should be a slam-dunk to keep it as is.
As far as events go, most don't give a choice. The poster goes up on the wall with the details, you pay your money and step inside. Perhaps you can set up a tiered system: one price for banquet only, one for banquet and winery tour, etc.?
Anyway, Do what you want to do. Those who want to come, will.
The rest can do something else.

Thanks, Terry. I appreciate your input. As an "old" member of the SOC you have a good view of things.

DUSTY,
I AM WILLING TO HELP BETWEEN NOW AND THE 1ST WEEK OF JANUARY.
BETWEEN JAN AND APRIL I CAN OFFER NO HELP.
IF YOU NEED ME TO MAKE CALLS OR COORDINATE SOMETHING JUST LET ME KNOW.

Build it and they will come!

With my experience running events, it's in your best interest to do the foot set up to the best of your ability and present same without options and as previously stated, the poster is on the wall.
I won't even get involved with the collection of funds, no matter how simple it may seem, it turns to being a pita trying to get the funds out of the slackers and you can very well be left holding the bag. That is why for our Carlisle dinner, it's off the menu with individule checks. ~Alan

Dusty,

You did a stellar job organizing the 2010 Morro Bay SOC tour and I, for one, am totally up with trusting your judgement again in 2011.

I liked the wine tour drive and took the opportunity to get to know the Jada vintner a bit more, got a tour behind the scenes and made a new friend in the process. There was more to just drinking or not drinking wine if only folks would take the initiative. Looking forward to the photo op pictures from the wine tour. The flexibility to split off ofter Justin was much appreciated by Vada who took advantage of shopping in Cambria.

This tour combined a friendly and picturesque venue with the great company of the SOC group. It is really about getting together in person, driving our cool cars and having a compatible venue that holds our interest. I'd say all those were achieved to most folks satisfaction.

The hotel in Morro was spot on for parking, value and view. Keep it on the agenda.

The car park event on Sat AM in Morro was cool, low key and friendly. I didn't think it was too short or too long 'cause I was not watching the clock.

The Banquet was a hoot, loved it and will bring less BBGs next year, I kinda overdid it;)

My drive is long so this is a big deal event for me. I put my trust in you and you came through. You are a dynamic guy so I bet each year you will have some surprises for us to keep Morro Bay fresh.

Tomm

Terry
I prefer your approach. Not a thing wrong with Morro IMHO. Dusty, The boss and I are a little closer than some and consequently are ready to help if need be.

"I get nothing out from all of this except a great joy from making people happy"....who are we to take this away from Dusty....
I started a thread because I was hearing complaints, I agree that if you have an idea bring it forward, if not, allow dusty to have this "great joy"....
I would also like to appologize to Dusty for not joining on the wine run Saturday, I do believe I was one that was signed up for it....
I actually could have saved a bunch of money, considering what my wife spent in town that day..

vince
u criminal

Dusty, Nike has a saying "just do it". You did a great job! So my view is...... just do it the way you want, add pre pay for the things you can and if someone is a no show you loose your $$$.

Money talks and BS walks!

Dale

Hats off to Dusty and the other organizers of this trip.

This was the first year for Rebecca and I. We have been on many of the OC Porsche Club (with our real one) wine tours and I would say that for a FREE event, you far exceeded our expectations. The Porsche club wine tour is close to $800. OUCH.

I can't speak for others that came but we were really pleased with Morro Bay.

As for others taking off and doing what they want to do- unfortunately when you have 78 individuals- you have people that may not necessarily want to partake in all of the events. Some don't drink. For example, we stuck around to go to the third winery after our mediocre experience at Justin winery and there must have been less than 10 cars. The people at the last winery were a bit rude and were unwilling to provide water even if we wanted a tasting. Their tasting room was pretty small, yadda yadda but the point is several folks vocalized that they would have rather gone on an organized cruise up the coast (possibly past Hearst) etc and forego the last winery.

As for Friday- we left OC at 7am to meet the other SoCal'ers and by the time our group got into Morro Bay it was afternoon. We would have loved to go to Cambria but it just wouldn't have been possible time wise.

Again- thanks to all that went and all that helped organize this event.

Rather than focusing on the negative we're going to remember this year as a time we were able to meet and socialize with great people (even Vince) that have similar interests. ;)

SLO is a great town as well and has a bit more going on in the way of night life but Morro Bay was a great meeting point and our group was well received there.

I was fortunate to take some trips through Baja in the 70s before the routes off the main road were not yet "improved". It wasn't quite off-roading but very close. The trip was the adventure then. Listening very carefully to the sound of the engine and being 50 miles from nowhere when it quit. Then diagnosing, repairing and continuing on our way. This years trip to Morro Bay my son Greg and I chased an elusive fuel and/or electrical intermittent gremlin. Unlike lonely Baja, we thanked the SOCers who stopped to lend aid and begged them to continue on with the group. After all, I had Triple A plus and a credit card. The times and location had changed. However, I was spending time on the road with my son sorting out (almost) the car.
Instead of completing the Wine Tour(s) we toured the part stores of Morro Bay and San Luis Obispo. On Saturday morning I met the owner of the Speedster, eventually bought so cheap, outside an auto parts store and directed him toward it's new owner. With no solution in site for my car we spent a quite afternoon touring the shops below the hotel. Greg had an enjoyable bus-man's holiday helping diagnose other peoples cars problems and I still enjoyed myself because the trip is always the adventure. Dusty deserves great praise for organization. I would only suggest that because of the increased number of people with diverse interest and possible problems some flexibility needs to be built in to accommodate intentional or unintentional non-participation in planned events.