My IM6

Bob, Your new IM6 is going to be Fantastic!  Should we race for pinks?

Thanks, Marty.  I'm game, but I know you won't like being without your car.

 

 

Do the gloves come with it??

I'm gonna have the power to weight ratio on you.  What color is my new IM6 going to be. 

As they say in vintage racing, 'age and treachery over youth and inexperience wins every time'.

 

 

Just in case, what colour would you prefer?  I'll be going over paint samples next week, and that's the one thing I haven't chosen yet.

 

 

It's going to be a monster, Bob!

Bob, pick your interior color first; makes it much easier.

That's done.  A dark tan called 'Mahogany', which goes with a lot of exterior colours.

I've always loved the car you are using for inspiration, Bob.  It even has a Lempert wheel with the same spokes as mine.

Well, Lane, you'll get to see the wheel before I do.

 

Bob, I don't envy your wait, but have working with Henry while you do.

 

Bob,

 

It's going to be a beauty.  Anxious to see it.

Hey Bob, that will be a really nice combo of and keeps all the power train all from the same family. Ray

Instead of going through all the hassle of getting your cars, setting up a place to race, driving a long way to meet each other, etc., why don't you two let me race your cars when Henry is finished with them.

I can bring along my good racing buddy, Crash and Burn McGrill, to help.  By the time your cars are ready he'll be out of the hospital and ready to race.

Too bad about his last test drive, but hey, $hit happens...right?

That car was featured in Porsche's "Excellence" magazine about 3 years ago.  Over $100,000 to build and customize by a very particular owner.  It has some really exceptional and unique features. 

 

 

Bob, when your car is finished, I'd be willing to make an even swap for my 2013 Vintage Speedster, with 2024cc Type 1 engine, four wheel disc brakes, Chinese repop four-lug wheels, and replica Nardi steering wheel.

 

What makes my car so desirable is the modification to the instrument light circuit that allows the headlights to be operated without the switch smoking. Literally hours went into the design and fabrication of that circuit.

 

To show my good faith, I'd be willing to make this swap without even inspecting or driving your car first. It will be hard to part with my VS, but there's nothing I wouldn't do to help out a fellow SOCer.

 

Your buddy,

 

Mitch

 

 

Bob

 

Glad to see you going outlaw.  Question.  Are you going bumperless.  I asked Henry at Carlisle whether he could do a watercooled outlaw without bumpers and he said he was working on it.  My point is that there is a front cut out on current watercooled cars to let air to the radiator.  I believe this is also need for oil coolers on the 911 cars.  I would like to do a watercooled outlaw one day and would like to go bumperless.

Bob, 

 

That's a stunning bit of inspiration. If your new car is 1/4 as beautiful you will be very pleased.

 

I'm looking forward to your final creation.

 

Love those wheels and the stance. 

Ted

Thanks, everyone.  This has been a long time coming, and I'm glad I am finally able to do it.  With my Speedster trade-in, it's doable for me.  And it's certainly not over $100,000, - a lot less, thank goodness!  I'm not going with a lot of the expensive stuff that Matt had on his, but it will still be what I want.

 

Yes, I have the copy of the Excellence magazine the car was featured in, and the pages are a little worn out from my looking and drooling.

 

As for a trade for a VS, Mitch, throw something else in (a house, cottage, airplane...) and I'll think about it.  But I do like how you set up that switch!

 

Phil - the car will have bumpers, but no over riders or trim.  Cut outs in the front for air to the twin oil coolers.

 

The stance is exactly what I wanted, but not sure about the wheels right now, as they ain't too cheap.

 

And Ron, I'll be sure to have Henry let you have a look at the car.

I told my wife that we could afford a 911 powered IM if I sold our IM (when it finally gets back on the road), sold our new F250 diesel truck, and sold our 5th wheel trailer.

She said that I'd be short a bunch of money after the divorce settlement.

Kind of put a quick end to that dream......

Bob, what about some Technomagnesio wheels like Ted (TRP) just got?  They really look good and would fit the outlaw theme.

Not sure wide 5's will accommodate fat rubber in the back.  At least that's what Henry told me when I asked about doing a high hp suby outlaw.  Bob's car is going to need a lot of meat in the rear. 

Lane.  I would love to put a set of those on the car, but with the 911 running gear, wide fives won't fit.  Unless there is some adapter?

 

As Phil says above, they also would not be wide enough for the car.

 

But they are gorgeous wide fives.

As cool as the Technomagnesio wheels are, and as cool as wide 5s are...

 

that's a 3.6L vaio-ram lump back there. That mill would overwhelm the Tehcnomagnesio 5" wheels/tires in a parking lot. As for the wide 5 thing: as much as I love the look (and I clearly do love it), the available brakes are something less than a machine of this caliber would require. I'm at the limit with a 200 hp Type 1.

 

Matt's car has a "pie" sectioned in to both back fenders to widen the car by about 4" at the wheels, to accommodate seriously wide rubber while still maintaining a "classic" body look. It was/is genius, and like the fact that the rear wheels are pushed back a couple of inches-- unnoticeable unless you know what you are looking for.

 

Bob, Is Henry going to do this to accommodate the enormous engine? 

Stan

 

As you know, we were looking at a 2.7 engine first, but the costs were prohibitive to acquire one, and then I would have had to buy all the transmission and suspension and brake parts on top of that.  We then found a great package deal for all the 911 parts Henry needs and went with that.  That's where the 3.6 came from. 

 

It is certainly a lot of engine, and will require a soft foot on the gas pedal (except when needed, of course).  I did do some checking with other owners about this. The one we got is non varioram, so will fit a lot better.

 

Yes, the rear fenders will be sectioned and widened, and I'll have eight inch wide wheels on the back.  Henry also modifies the rear wheel wells to account for the longer rear suspension.

 

It's a lot of engineering and sculpting, but Henry's an artist, and I know it will be worth it.

Don't think you can get 7 or 8 inch wide 5's I guess you can get them custom made.  I love them so much I think I would be willing to give up a little hp so I could use them with the vw IRS platform in the back.  A stock suby with 165hp would probably be fine with the wide 5's.  It would be nice to have the 911 suspension and brakes in the front but these also may incompatible with wide 5's.  Hmm.

Bob-

 

It'll be astounding.

 

I'm not given to half-measures. If not a 2.7, I totally agree with going to the other end of the spectrum and doing the biggest, baddest air-cooled engine available.

 

The sectioned fenders, etc. are the coolest thing I've ever seen. Seriously. You'll never regret this one.

 

Phil-

 

The wheels aren't the issue. It's the brakes. The calipers and rotors on a modern Porsche brake set-up are an order of magnitude better than anything available for wide 5, CPS included.

Hi to everyone, being relatively new to the list, I just thought I would mentioned that I just finished a build with Henry for a full Subie powered IM roadster. Bob, I think your on the right path, I have 6 inch in front and 7 inch in the rear with my new car, full 911 front end with brakes etc. 

I think you will find that Henry is very cautious in this area and will match the 911 brake master cylinder chosen to the front and rear brakes so that the proportioning valve, the piston size, number of pistons in the calliper and the area of coverage of the brake pad will be match accordingly. It will be the logical way forward with that kind of power. You need to be able to stop without having to add lead in your shoe for more pressure on the pedal. Ray

By the way, you can by having the rear wheel modified add offset which will allow you at least 8 inches or more on the rear end. Henry has done this but again the wheel cost climbs, and you might want to buy those only once. 

Whoa! She doesn't mess around! That even made me sit up straight!

T

Bob, you ARE going to bring this to the first Carlisle after it's done, right?

Bob, I saw that car in the FLESH at Henry's shop when it was just finished, it took forever to build and it was awesome looking I can tell you that. So much custom work you would not believe it. Owner did not keep it long though after the build. Ray

 

I don't know.  Marty might get after me...

 

You can always have wheels custom made.  I'm sure they're expensive but if the madness is strong it can't be ignored.

 

http://www.introwheels.com/about-us/

Who said money can't buy happiness?

Yes, it does. But you have to work like hell to get the money in the first place.

 

Henry just posted some photos of the 'engine fitting'.  Scroll down to the bottom.

 

I think it really needs to be a little bigger...

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/...s/72157649830760802/

 

The silver car there in the first few photos isn't mine.

 

 

Photos look GREAT….you're livin' the dream Bob!

Yes.  It is pretty exciting having a car built to order.  Never thought I would be able to do this.

Good for you Bob.... Ray