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DannyP posted:

Isn't a coupe made just to give a stiffer body? Nothing beats top-down motoring, unless you're susceptible to skin cancer. But aren't we all?

My sister bought her husband an BMW "M" 6 cylinder Roadster...lives in Phoenix and he's bald. Second day he had it, took a 3 hour highway drive with a couple of BREWSKIES and of course the wind kept his head cool...UNTIL HE WAS pulled over by a cop and the officer(going 105MPH in a 70) noticed SMOKE billowing from his scalp!

#3RD degree burn, with blisters, and goop.....

Stan Galat posted:
DannyP posted:

Isn't a coupe made just to give a stiffer body? Nothing beats top-down motoring, unless you're susceptible to skin cancer. But aren't we all?

I'm with you. I don't get it.

Me 3! They're nice and all, but why would you want a coupe when you could be roaring around in a Speedster or Spyder?

I’ll be the Devil’s advocate or the voice of reason (you pick).  Some of us ARE a bit more prone to skin cancer due to genetic makeup, family history, personal history, etc.  heck, I probably shouldn’t even be living where I am in th steamy swamps of coastal SC.  There are many months here where it’s just too damn hot and humid for an open car.  Couple that with the ever present chance of a pop-up shower and for much of the year an open car is just not comfortable.  Perhaps something more civilized like a Convertible D or Cabriolet would work, but a leaky Speedster just isn’t optimal.

Then you have a day like yesterday and all that is negated by perfect weather.

I have basil cell skin cancer and I wear a hat and long sleeves and sun block, but I don't attribute my skin cancer to riding motorcycles and open top cars.... I have been corvetteoutside every day for more than 75 years in the bright sun and at high elevations.... 

I simply prefer coupes for a variety of reasons.  Like Jim often reminds us, " that is why there are 57 flavors of ice cream ".....it is no more complicated than personal preference...... not a lack of experience.....

Coupe's Rule for me....

 

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bart posted:

I have basil cell skin cancer...

Sorry to hear that, Bart.

My Cousin had melanoma that masticated and recurred for a third time after having Chemo and radiation therapy twice.   This third time, she gave in, and didn't want to go through chemo for the third time.    This third time, it had progressed to stage 4, and she had tumors throughout her body.

We had a celebration of life party for her about 4 years ago, since they gave her about 6 months to live, and she wanted everyone to remember her as she was before cancer would really take hold.

On a whim, she decided to try cannabis oil (she's in the San Fran area).   Within 1 month, her tumors stopped growing.   Within 6 months, her tumors were almost gone.  Now, about 4 years later, she is in complete remission.

They say there is no clinical support to support cannabis oil treating cancer.   But I have a cousin who beat stage 4 with it...  if I had cancer, I would find a way to try it.   Best wishes!

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Jethro posted:
bart posted:

I have basil cell skin cancer...

 

On a whim, she decided to try cannabis oil (she's in the San Fran area).   Within 1 month, her tumors stopped growing.   Within 6 months, her tumors were almost gone.  Now, about 4 years later, she is in complete remission.

Jethro,

That is awesome news! Do you have any idea how it was administered? Was it a clinical trial?

Rusty S posted:
Jethro posted:
bart posted:

I have basil cell skin cancer...

 

On a whim, she decided to try cannabis oil (she's in the San Fran area).   Within 1 month, her tumors stopped growing.   Within 6 months, her tumors were almost gone.  Now, about 4 years later, she is in complete remission.

Jethro,

That is awesome news! Do you have any idea how it was administered? Was it a clinical trial?

There are NUMEROUS treatment modalities through a variety of edibles, vapor, and even suppositories for those who have an open mind about an open(*) Most of the studies involve ills other than stopping cancer as that link is rather weak. But great cause and effect for cancer patients with pain, nausea, depression, etc....along with shrooms as the hallucinogens, including ECSTASY have proven to be valuable. It is also been used for treating pets and some of their issues.

Bill Prout posted:

Better if they leave the THC in it though...

They do in MOST of the cocktails...just a variety of levels and there are a dozen different THC types that each have a variety of desirable and undesirable effects. So different cocktails for different ills and of course the good old stuff when needed is also available in leaf and edibles My daughter brought me some serious GUMMY BEARS that will knock any defensive tackle square on his ASS

Rusty S posted:
Jethro posted:
bart posted:

I have basil cell skin cancer...

 

On a whim, she decided to try cannabis oil (she's in the San Fran area).   Within 1 month, her tumors stopped growing.   Within 6 months, her tumors were almost gone.  Now, about 4 years later, she is in complete remission.

 

Jethro,

That is awesome news! Do you have any idea how it was administered? Was it a clinical trial?

I have Mohs surgery to remove them...that has a 98% cure rate, so I am doing fine..

I don't want to sound preachy but....a couple of the most common areas that are susceptible  to skin cancer are your eyelids and lower lip....the right kind of sun glasses can protect your eyelids and there are a number of products to protect your lips....

I hasten to add, I am not a doctor ....  

 

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I am a doctor and there are a couple of very positive things about weed.  It is an anti-emetic, improves nausea.  And it stimulates diet...munchies.  So it can have a positive effect particularly in cancer patients on chemotherapy etc.  Some people claim its helps with some forms of neuropathic pain and others claim it helps with spasticity in MS patients.  I'm not aware of any uses for the cure of cancers.  But who knows.  

Personally I think it should be legalized.  We waste too much time and money in law enforcement and the legal system cracking down on people who use weed.  I don't use it and would not if it were legalized but I have friends who are lawyers, professionals and other very productive members of society who use it as a recreational drug like most of us use alcohol.  I'm sure it has some health risks such as lung cancer but I'm sure nothing like the health risks of alcohol.

Rusty, glad for her and your family.

It's unfortunate that there doesn't seem to be much clinical trial data about cannabis oil as a cure for disease. There are trials that indicate that THC, the active ingredient in cannabis, can provide symptomatic pain relief in some patients in certain disease states and aid in sleep.

I imagine that there are other trials either in progress or being designed to address the potential of THC for a variety of medical uses.

The absence of trial data and results (some trials are well designed  and some aren't) doesn't mean something doesn't help people.

Nirvana is multiple well designed studies in large patient populations that produce very similar results. Even then, once a product is available, post-marketing surveillance may indicate that some patients or patient groups don't benefit, or worse yet suffer from it's use. That drives labeling changes, additional warnings, and sometimes product withdrawals from the market.

Not many "one size fits all" cures!

 

 

Bob, I believe that one of the main reasons that there is little research being done in the states on cannabis' medical uses is that it is a schedule 1 drug.  That severely restricts what can be done.  The whole schedule 1 thing was a political move in the first place, but now that it is entrenched, many candidates and law enforcement agencies are reluctant to have it downgraded as they want to be seen as "tough on crime," regardless of the real consequences.

I would agree Lane. Classifying cannabis as a schedule 1 drug is ridiculous.  Same class as heroin and LSD.

In regards to cancer treatment I did find this:

CBD (cannabidiol) may help prevent cancer from spreading, researchers at California Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco reported in 2007.

Cannabidiol stops cancer by turning off a gene called Id-1, the study, published in the journal Molecular Cancer Therapeutics, found. Cancer cells make more copies of this gene than non-cancerous cells, and it helps them spread through the body.

The researchers studied breast cancer cells in the lab that had high expression levels of Id-1 and treated them with cannabidiol. After treatment the cells had decreased Id-1 expression and were less aggressive spreaders.

In "WEED," Gupta also mentioned a few studies in the U.S., Spain, and Israel that suggest the compounds in cannabis could even kill cancer cells.

 

Its even more ridiculous that the FEDS do not reclassify it considering many states make it available for both recreational and medicinal use. The revenue coupled with job creation AND reduction in alcohol related hospital visits points to positive direction. Employers can still drug test employees to protect their industry and its a WIN-WIN for all and makes it considerably easier for research to go forward.

I'm not suggesting that PILOTS and BUS DRIVERS be allowed to dabble just as they are not permitted to use alcohol in context. Taking a chunk out of organized crime is a big plus although they are turning to the opioid/fentanyl/cocaine catastrophe to make up income feed.

I'm all for finding the medical benefits for "weed" minus the THC.

My wife works with and I volunteer with street and at-risk youth. Virtually 100% of them smoke weed or worse, most of them have dropped out of school or can't hold a job. Generally, overall lack of motivation is common, short term memory loss, anxiety, paranoia and other varied psychosis. No, this doesn't happen to everyone to it's worst degree and there are certainly other aspects than weed in play but it's important to acknowledge the ever present dirty underbelly.

The marijuana of today is a magnitude stronger than decades ago and often cut with dangerous additives, heavy metals etc. Which is why we have a slew of new "don't drive high" ads running everywhere up here and police are trying to figure out exactly how to deal with its pending legality for recreational use. Legalizing it to get a handle on purity is not so simple as utilizing government licensing and retailers since the black market and organized crime will always be there to under-cut prices.

In my opinion, it's also very dangerous to say "I've smoked for years with no problem" or "I have a buddy who's a productive lawyer and smokes weed all the time" as being the norm. Often, their spouses, children or employers would disagree and the long term effects may still be to come.

I'm not going to lay that entirely at the feet of weed and medical mj sans THC very likely has a place for pain management/nausea/palliative care (shrink tumors? absolutely) etc but I would never have it enter the conversation as a "cure-all" for anything.

Big pharma also has big issues so as I said, I'm all for finding the medical benefits for weed minus the THC or other more natural alternatives.

 

I have seen it used in intractable pain and spasms mostly as a bedtime sedative.  

For those patients it has helped them function when they were not able to sleep or function.    

As to the legalization, the risk of triggering schizophrenia increases substantially for those who are susceptible and if the brain does not mature till past 25y.o.  there is an argument to be made to have it legalized later.  (I know of two cases at least where there was a cause and effect and the young adults are now wards of the state) 

Lastly, there is as of yet no road side test available to measure impairment and combined with alcohol the impairment seems worse than either of them separately. 

So while I love freedom... north of the 49th parallel they are just coming to grips with how the heck they are going to do this safely.  

my 2shekels from my apothecary desk...  

 

 

 

The chronic smokers that I know all have problems with memory retention and lack of motivation. I have a friend who I stopped talking to about anything important because of his lack of recall. He just told me that he has been off of it for 5.5 months and is noticing improved recall.

I'm very interested in it's medicinal properties but as for daily recreational use I know it's not for me. I think the lack of recall sets in slowly and as a user it goes unnoticed until others who are comfortable enough with you tell you.

Ray.  That's a beautiful wheel but my interior is tan with ivory wheel and switches.  I will have to find a Porsche horn button. 

Yes I know Greg has been busy.  Kind of painful to see the cars come out of his shop.  Would like for the next one to be mine.  I know that everything, engine, tranny, etc. is done on my car and ready for assembly.   Any pics are appreciated.  Hoping to get out to LA in December for a drive.  We'll see.

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