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Last year's Carlisle journey included a couple of mysterious events wherein my engine suffered fuel starvation only to restart shortly thereafter and run fine otherwise.  This forced a couple of off-track excursions on the return trip as I recall.

Today, while returning from Cars and Coffee, it happened again.  I have been suspecting that the fuel pump was pulling against a vacuum.  When it stalled I immediately pulled over turned it off and waited for traffic to pass, after which I turned the ignition on again and listened for the fuel pump.  I couldn't hear it, but there was enough ambient noise to make the test inconclusive.  I then popped the "frunk" lid, removed the gas cap, and replaced it.  I then turned the key back on and could hear the fuel pump faintly.  The car started right up and ran fine.  I am not running the original Beck locking gas cap as the gasket had failed and I was getting a lot of gas fumes in the cockpit.  The replacement cap is vented and the tank has the usual filler neck vent hose.  My questions are:

  1. Could the cap not be venting properly causing a partial vacuum in the tank?
  2. Could the vent hose be collapsing?  I can't figure out the exact manner of how the cap and vent hose interact, but there could be a problem there.

Any ideas on diagnostics and/or solutions?  This is a rare occurrence that I cannot duplicate at will.

Formerly 2006 Beck Speedster (Carlisle build car), 1964 Beck Super Coupe

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As Alan and Bill mentioned, it sounds like the screen at the bottom of the tank is plugged. Drain the tank, disconnect the fitting/fuel line at the bottom and there should be a screen. It's there to keep the bigger chunks from reaching the fuel pump and carburetor(s). With the motion of fuel flowing through, it could be getting plugged with rust and whatever else is in there.

Last edited by ALB

It's the same fuel pump that Danny runs in his car.  I replaced the Hucho (sp?) that I'd had for years when I was chasing down the carb gremlin last fall.  I feel confident that it isn't the pump as I've had it occur with both.  As for bad fuels, I always use ethanol free here at home, but can't always get it on the road.  The last tank with any ethanol was on the way back from Carlisle.

Lane said-

" It usually happens (IIRC) within the first 1/4 of a tank after a refill"

"I feel confident that it isn't the pump as I've had it occur with both"

Greg said- 

"I'm in on the varnish gunk at bottom of tank!  Gets stirred up when you refill tank..."

Drain the tank, take the fuel line fitting off, pull the screen. You'll be surprised at all the crap that comes out. Clean it out, put it back together. Problem solved.

Last edited by ALB

"Drain the tank" -- so easy to say.  I wonder if there is any way to inspect the innards, and actually see if the outlet is blocked on the inside.  I recall reading in a Haynes manual once upon a time about doing a gas tank inspection, their advice was, "Using a torch, inspect the inside of the tank . . ."  Of course, one would have to understand that in British, "torch" means flashlight.

I've had the vent line kink when loading to much stuff in the trunk. I would check the routing of the hose and a warm day can soften the hose enough to kink it at times, it doesn't have to be closed off completely to starve dual carbs.

Was it a warm day when you drove back from Carlisle?. The lower fuel level as you indicated above will allow for more fuel vapor and put more demand on that vent line.

 

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