The camber compensator I got at Carlisle can't be fitted on the Spyder without MAJOR modifications to the vehicle.....So, if someone wants to give it a good home, let me know and we'll find a way to transport it......
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The camber compensator I got at Carlisle can't be fitted on the Spyder without MAJOR modifications to the vehicle.....So, if someone wants to give it a good home, let me know and we'll find a way to transport it......
Do you know if it would work on a stockish Beetle swing axle set-up? If yes, I could sure use it. Pleaee lemme know how much you want for it and what it would cost to get it to me here in Kingston, MA 02364?
I've been playing around with making one of my own using front torsion leaves, I thought that I could fashion an adjustable set-up by adding or subtracting leaves, along the lines of what they did with front spring leaves on the suicide front ends.
Not working out too well. Probably better to just opt for a standard item and use limiting straps.
Anyway, if it's still around lemme know.
Thanks !
FP
I've been playing around with making one of my own using front torsion leaves, I thought that I could fashion an adjustable set-up by adding or subtracting leaves, along the lines of what they did with front spring leaves on the suicide front ends.
Not working out too well. Probably better to just opt for a standard item and use limiting straps.
Anyway, if it's still around lemme know.
Thanks !
FP
Team Evil has passed on the camber compensator, as it was not the type he was familiar with.....So, it's still up for grabs....
This is either a dead ringer, or a genuine C.B. Performance unit...
This is either a dead ringer, or a genuine C.B. Performance unit...
It looks exactly like the one on my car, so it should fit any swing-axle setup.
Picture?
I might be interested...
I might be interested...
This is a C.B. Perf. unit....At least it's a dead ringer for the compensator pictured under "Rear Suspension & Brakes."....C. B. won't let you cut and paste.....and I'm a PC Ludite.......
Leon,
If Bill does not want the camber comp. and it will fit my '65 swing arm without lowering the ass end a whole lot, I will take it. Let me know what you want for it and the shipping, and we'll do the deal. Thanks, Al
If Bill does not want the camber comp. and it will fit my '65 swing arm without lowering the ass end a whole lot, I will take it. Let me know what you want for it and the shipping, and we'll do the deal. Thanks, Al
Alan,
It will fit your '68 transaxle perfectly. It doesn't lower the car at all, but rather limits the amount of travel (tuck under) of the wheel/axle beneath the car in normal to tight turns, such as expressway exits and such. It's a completely necessary device for even normal high speed highway travel.
With this and a set of limiter straps, you'll be golden.
FP
This explains the function. It's regarding a Triumph Spitty, but the action is the same.
http://members.cox.net/spitlist/CamberCompensator.html
Adding to this is the small debate regarding the value of the camber compensator vs a "Z" bar. The "Z" bar was a factory install on the last of the swing axle cars to compensate for a softer torsion bar rating. It will stiffen the suspension under severe load or road conditions, but does nothing for handling in tight turns or in preventing tuck-under and/or roll-over. For that you need good skills, the right shocks, and a camber compensator.
So, let's recount:
A "Z" bar if you're hauling a fat ass around with you.
A Camber Compensator if you're rollin' Phat and haulin' ass.
It will fit your '68 transaxle perfectly. It doesn't lower the car at all, but rather limits the amount of travel (tuck under) of the wheel/axle beneath the car in normal to tight turns, such as expressway exits and such. It's a completely necessary device for even normal high speed highway travel.
With this and a set of limiter straps, you'll be golden.
FP
This explains the function. It's regarding a Triumph Spitty, but the action is the same.
http://members.cox.net/spitlist/CamberCompensator.html
Adding to this is the small debate regarding the value of the camber compensator vs a "Z" bar. The "Z" bar was a factory install on the last of the swing axle cars to compensate for a softer torsion bar rating. It will stiffen the suspension under severe load or road conditions, but does nothing for handling in tight turns or in preventing tuck-under and/or roll-over. For that you need good skills, the right shocks, and a camber compensator.
So, let's recount:
A "Z" bar if you're hauling a fat ass around with you.
A Camber Compensator if you're rollin' Phat and haulin' ass.
Thanks TC...As usual, no lack of info. Al
Leon
CB camber compensator picture...
CB camber compensator picture...
Leon,
Motors out, tranny mounts broken and I'm very interested in adding this to my lower'd CMC wide body.
Get me a shipping quote to VA 20147 and where to send you some funds...
Motors out, tranny mounts broken and I'm very interested in adding this to my lower'd CMC wide body.
Get me a shipping quote to VA 20147 and where to send you some funds...
Thanks Bob......I've had more "technology" in my life than I ever wanted.....People like you, help us troglodytes survive....
Leon,
For what it's worth, I've seen some camber compensator that Chuck made for his own track spyders. He used a truck leaf spring and fabricated a bracket to mount it above the transaxle.
For what it's worth, I've seen some camber compensator that Chuck made for his own track spyders. He used a truck leaf spring and fabricated a bracket to mount it above the transaxle.
I'll add that this same C. B. Performance camber compensator was the single best thing I added to my swing axle VS. Now the rear doesn't want to swap ends with the front going fast on mountain curves and with the front sway bar the car rides like it was on rails----zero lean.
Anyone see that video that was on here a fer months ago---a race with VW Bugs and one out of every three or four rolled at a certain curve. Made a beliver outta me!---Jack
Well, it's outta here!!!! Bill had first choice and asked for it......
Someone chipe in here. This looks like it's for a swing axle not IRS.
Does anyone know for sure?
Does anyone know for sure?
Bill-the CB catalog referenced above has a descriptive that says will fit swing axle, just as noted.
Here's the link:
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=463
Here's the link:
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=463
The car is IRS, and a camber compensator isn't appropriate for it. You should add a rear anti-roll bar instead.
BAH!
Alan?
Alan?
Bill,
I'll take it. People who should know say it will fit. If it doesn't fit I will make a nice bird feeder or plant hanger. Thanks
I'll take it. People who should know say it will fit. If it doesn't fit I will make a nice bird feeder or plant hanger. Thanks
Bill, Allen,......It would seem that things are going to work out after all.......If I'm needed, scream!!!!! I sleep hard....
That's what SHE said, Leon.
But now, with no camber compensator ...
(Sorry. Couldn't resist.)
But now, with no camber compensator ...
(Sorry. Couldn't resist.)
That thing is making a slow trip up the east coast! GA-VA-MA!
Anyone in NH or Maine? Kinda like a chain letter. Maybe I'll put stickers on it like an old suitcase.
But it started in CT!
Does Corey have a need for it over there??? More stickers....
Al,
Once it get's to you, if you find any problems in installing it and want to get rid of it, I'll buy it from you. In looking at it, I had an idea for using aluminum lowering blocks (like what we use on the MGB racer) to adjust the contact point/pressure positioning during the suspension travel.
Lock it up stiff and tight for drag racing, remove a block or two, and free it back up for road use . . . that kinda thing. Seems worth a try, anyway.
FP
Once it get's to you, if you find any problems in installing it and want to get rid of it, I'll buy it from you. In looking at it, I had an idea for using aluminum lowering blocks (like what we use on the MGB racer) to adjust the contact point/pressure positioning during the suspension travel.
Lock it up stiff and tight for drag racing, remove a block or two, and free it back up for road use . . . that kinda thing. Seems worth a try, anyway.
FP
If anyone knows---what to folks with a type 4 engine and a swing axle rear end use instead of the C. B. Performance Camber compensator? Just curious---Jack
10-4 , TC
They probably use this:
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC-C10-4041
Similar in set-up to the EMPI design, a little more slop built into the mix and I THINK that it can be pre-loaded a bit as well.
Although, if the car is mid-engine you may foul almost any off-the-shelf compensator with your exhaust pipes . . . not entirely sure, but you could probably find more info on the web.
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC-C10-4041
Similar in set-up to the EMPI design, a little more slop built into the mix and I THINK that it can be pre-loaded a bit as well.
Although, if the car is mid-engine you may foul almost any off-the-shelf compensator with your exhaust pipes . . . not entirely sure, but you could probably find more info on the web.
Just curious - what does it matter whether the engine is a Type 1 or Type 4, as long as the rear suspension is swing-axle?
Lane - looks like center support bolts to engine case bolts which are likely in different place on a T4 case.
Lane, Lane, Lane...........
Type 1 exhaust ports are on the front and rear of the head (horizontal, as it were.)
Type 4 exhaust ports are on the BOTTOM of the head, the same as the placement of the camber compensator. Put a set of headers on there and you have to consider interference problems, nes pa?
gn
Type 1 exhaust ports are on the front and rear of the head (horizontal, as it were.)
Type 4 exhaust ports are on the BOTTOM of the head, the same as the placement of the camber compensator. Put a set of headers on there and you have to consider interference problems, nes pa?
gn
OK, all you tiny pains in the ASS . . . .
I went out and checked my Camber Compensator with a ruler.
First thing, right off. It's a camber compensator, not an engine bracket. It mounts right underneath the side plates on the transaxle. It uses the bottom two bolts/studs of the side plates on either side as the mounting points for the cradle, whch mounts to the pivot, which is attached to the cross bar, which contacts the axle tubes.
This assembly is a good six or seven inches forward of where the bell housing/engine join up. A long way from the bottom of the engine.
Is this type IV engine in question a mid-engine or a rear engine, you'll need to offer up a little more info for a correct answer. Are you using stock VW type IV exhaust or 914 exhaust or aftermarket exhaust. Are you simply concerned with the use of the compensator with that engine/transaxle combo or with the engine and assembly as it came from either factory. With or without heater boxes? Need some info to give you an answer.
A brief answer would be that the compensator doesn't care which engine is attached to the trans. It only deals with the axle tubes and sits directly below the axle tube center line. You could mount a television set to the transaxle and the compensator will fit just fine. NOW the EXHAUST is a different story along with the heater boxes. More info will yield an answer, if this is all just bench racing, well . . . what? Huh?
ForUm PriCK
I went out and checked my Camber Compensator with a ruler.
First thing, right off. It's a camber compensator, not an engine bracket. It mounts right underneath the side plates on the transaxle. It uses the bottom two bolts/studs of the side plates on either side as the mounting points for the cradle, whch mounts to the pivot, which is attached to the cross bar, which contacts the axle tubes.
This assembly is a good six or seven inches forward of where the bell housing/engine join up. A long way from the bottom of the engine.
Is this type IV engine in question a mid-engine or a rear engine, you'll need to offer up a little more info for a correct answer. Are you using stock VW type IV exhaust or 914 exhaust or aftermarket exhaust. Are you simply concerned with the use of the compensator with that engine/transaxle combo or with the engine and assembly as it came from either factory. With or without heater boxes? Need some info to give you an answer.
A brief answer would be that the compensator doesn't care which engine is attached to the trans. It only deals with the axle tubes and sits directly below the axle tube center line. You could mount a television set to the transaxle and the compensator will fit just fine. NOW the EXHAUST is a different story along with the heater boxes. More info will yield an answer, if this is all just bench racing, well . . . what? Huh?
ForUm PriCK
Wut he said! Nyah!
Screw the television set. Got over 200 channels and nothing's ever on.....
I'm thinking a powered blender might be good for car shows - 4 different blending speeds for varying thicknesses of frozen Margarita Smoothies!!
I'm thinking a powered blender might be good for car shows - 4 different blending speeds for varying thicknesses of frozen Margarita Smoothies!!
Smirnoff Ice ...from the refrig then on to the freezer for an additional 40 minutes ( remove at the inception of slush) results in an extra crisp taste! ~Alan
I bought a gas-powered blender for a boss once ... He really like Margaritas on the beach, and the extension cord was a huge bummer.