Ur going to sleep in a speedster?

No my rear engine Super Coupe. The one with the special chaise.

By the way, I will also have a chassis

@Joel Roth posted:

Look, I understand getting off topic now and then and have no problem with it. But, at some point in time people need to realize that its enough and shut it down. That's my problem with the tax discussion. It went on far too long.

No problem, Joel. Hopefully we self regulate, but in the event that we don't - the group pretty much knows when and how to make it stop. People other than the OP are probably in a much better position to know "how much is too much" off-topic chatter.

The thing is - lots of us are in places where it's cold enough that our open cars are in storage for the winter. There are others (like you) who do not have a car at all - either because they are waiting for a car to be built, or because they sold theirs. In the "down times" drifting is bound to occur.

And drift we do.

Until "The Recent Troubles" we did a pretty good job of steering the drift with a kind of deft delicateness through off-topic rub-points, but during the prolonged isolation (either a sensible prescription to stop COVID or because we are a bunch of fearful sheep, depending on one's perspective), some of us fell out of the habit of respecting viewpoints other than our own. The points of contact for a lot of members became the people with whom they lived, who generally (hopefully?) agreed with their own perspective of things. It was only online that we came into daily contact with people who were looking at the same thing and seeing something else altogether.

We're friends, so we weren't as careful as we might have been with "outsiders" (people outside our "pod"). There were some pretty strident posts here, as some did their best to explain the "correct" perspective to people who were clearly wrong. This might have been appropriate in some situations and not in others. We didn't even truly agree on that, even.

The reason I apologized for the tax detour is not that we were talking about taxes on "your" thread for too long. I apologized because I escalated and expanded on a comment from my friend @edsnova in a way that was out of scale to what he actually said. We were off-topic by the time we got to the Montana LLC, but nobody had any issue with it until we crossed into "how much taxation is too much?". I suspect that this is where politics bifurcated the thread into camps, which I'm trying to avoid.

That's why I apologized.

Regarding who controls the content of threads - you are aware (of course) that this thread is already 5 pages long and that you're going to be a couple of years before you have a car, though - right? There will be thread drifts of biblical proportions before you have delivery. This is good. It's how we'll get to know you. You've made a great start, and I've been impressed by your ability to laugh at yourself, even after you told us to pipe down in the back.

I happen to like strawberry pie with whipped cream. Carry on, gentlemen.

Stan:

I like to consider all members on this site and who post here to be my "friends" even through I have not met a single person here in person. We share a common interest in our cars and a common bond through our love for them. That said, I can take a joke, and even laugh at myself. Every now and then we all need a little nudge, even me. So not to worry.

I like Key Lime.

Now that’s the spirit .

I have to say up here, north of the 49th we have been locked up and frozen and our supreme ruler still won’t let us go south so it gets a bit hard to think straight any more and we will be singing the deliverance tune rather than the national anthem if it keeps on.

The only thing keeping me sane is the thought that in 30 days I can drive around the block again.

Hope you plan to flesh out your car is firmer now.

I didn’t even pay attention to the tax ordeal I’m too busy trying to figure out which pair of driving gloves I’m going to use during the shake down and break in of Joel’s car!

Arden:

I think you need a nice pair of leather driving gloves. You know the ones with the snap closure and perforations. Make sure they match the car. They look expensive because they are. Make sure you leave them in the glove box for the next driver (me).

@Joel Roth meet @Marty Grzynkowicz. Marty, Joel.

God made two of 'em.

Wow, have you noticed the coupe just listed.  If someone needs a temporary driver while awaiting a build of one or two years, one could buy Tom Marantz' car which is a pretty awesome coupe which even has AC and enjoy the waiting time.

@Joel Roth, I used Marty's advice to find a pair of gloves for my car, although I haven't used them much.  I think they look spiffy as they are a close match for the leather in my car, and I suspect that they will actually help should I ever get the car on the track.  In the meantime, it will be hard to look more cool than me in my gloves and my Super Coupe.

@Stan Galat posted:

@Joel Roth meet @Marty Grzynkowicz. Marty, Joel.

God made two of 'em.

dopplegangers, can we be so lucky,,,maybe twins separated at birth:}}}}

Oh by the way @Joel Roth, you have a ways to go on the thread length.  I actually had three build threads with a combined length of 41 pages (7+1+33).  Yer just gettin' started!

Haven’t decided yet!!

Right side, all leather. way cooler.

If I had driving gloves that matched my interior, I'd look like Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch

Some of you say I'm prone to fabrication, and you're not wrong. When I think of my little car and gloves this comes to mind.

Oh no. We're doing it again. Sorry Joel, it's going to be a long wait, but the diversions along the way make the time fly. Best wishes.

"Thread drift"??  Hmmm . . . isn't that why they invented threads??  So they can drift?

Yep, all friends here, no doubt about it.  If we didn't have @Lane Anderson to kick around, it would be a much less interesting  place.  Or @Stan Galat to keep telling us how it all REALLY goes down or fits together, even tho most of us are never going to put two spark plugs in each cylinder.  My advantage is that while I have never met most who post here, I have had the distinct honor and privilege to meet and drink and swap lies and knowledge with many of them.  The Carlisle meet in May has made that happen, by and large. Many make the pilgrimage including Canadians, SoCalis, and a few from in between.  One came from Fiji or Tahiti or some such, in fact.

I just checked online. You can buy a Huggy Bear action figure on eBay!

Pickett: that was my LOL for the day. Thanks!  Excellent choice for gloves.

@Former Member posted:

I didn’t even pay attention to the tax ordeal I’m too busy trying to figure out which pair of driving gloves I’m going to use during the shake down and break in of Joel’s car!

I have a pair of Fratelli Orsini deer skin gloves that I really love, but boy. Prices have gone up 40% since I bought mine. Come in 4 colors.

https://www.fratelli-orsini.co...loves-deerskin-brown

Pro Tip: Don’t buy S-M-L-XL gloves. Find your glove size and buy those. Not only will the fit be better, the quality in sized gloves is generally a lot higher than “4 sizes fit all” gloves.

OK, let's embrace the drift.

What is your favorite TV or Movie car?

I had to think about it for a while. My choices were between the James Bond Aston Martin DB5 or Ken Miles 1966 Ford GT 40.

I picked the Ford GT 40.

Mine's got to be the Porsche 917 from Le Mans.

I thought about painting my Super Coupe in the Gulf livery.

Hmmm...  Good question.  I think I'm down to the same two you were, Joel.  In my case I am going with the Aston as it would make a decent daily driver, a wonderful corner carver in the mountains, and it has all of those cool offensive weapons for when traffic gets just a bit sketchy.

OK I can't choose, so I will take both.

Who can pass up a car with an ejection seat?

@Michael Pickett posted:

Mine's got to be the Porsche 917 from Le Mans.

Second. But an honorable mention goes to the Slate Grey 911S Steve drives into town in during the opening credits.

Since we're drifting here, any change you'll make the Carlisle show or the Tour de Smo'?  I can pretty much guarantee you'll have a blast at either, even without your car.

When is Carlisle? And when is the Tour de SMO?

@Joel Roth posted:

When is Carlisle? And when is the Tour de SMO?

May 12th-14th https://www.speedsterowners.co...carlisle-2022?page=1

Click the link.

Mine has to be:

@Joel Roth posted:

When is Carlisle? And when is the Tour de SMO?

Both have threads in the Events section. Most of us go to Carlisle on Thursday, May 12th, the fairgrounds don't open until Friday and we all leave sometime on Sunday.

Tour de Smo is September 21-25.

@Joel Roth posted:

OK, let's embrace the drift.

What is your favorite TV or Movie car?

I think the question is overly broad, so I'm gonna' cut it down into bite-sized pieces.

The 917 from Le Mans is obviously going to top any reasonable person's list of movie cars they'd like to own and drive, looking through the lens of experience available to us in 2022 - but in 1971, Le Mans was a vanity project for McQueen, and nobody understood it when it was in the theaters. Prototype racing was European, and I suppose guys in Germany and Italy (and France, obviously) cared about it, but nobody besides Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles did here (and H2, once Enzo pissed all over Ford).

I can assure you that nobody in Flyover, USA cared even a _tiny little bit. Neither AJ Foyt nor either of the Unsers raced in it, so I can assure you it wasn't me or my ilk. We'd never even heard of it.

What would have been the best car at the time the movie came out would be an interesting question. Everybody "of a certain age" would have picked the Mustang from Bullitt, but Bullitt (like Le Mans) was an "old movie" by the time I was in high-school. For guys in their late 50s, I'd think that a strong argument could be made for Milner's '32 Ford from American Graffiti (a movie and a car that pretty much summed up my aspirations in the middle '70s). I've always had a soft spot for the "cop motor (a 440 cubic inch plant), cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks" Bluesmobile, from The Blues Brothers but my wife says it's because I was/am a juvenile delinquent. She's probably (well... most assuredly) correct. Ferris Beuller's 250 GT California should and would definitely be in the running.

But these were nowhere near the most popular and influential movie cars of the '70s. The runaway "best" movie car for guys my age was undoubtedly Burt Reynolds' Trans Am in Smokey and the Bandit. Nothing else even came close. If somebody mentions the DeLorean from Back To the Future, I'm afraid we can't be friends anymore.

Limiting the sampling to TV cars would be a lot tougher. The Torino with the weird stripe in Starsky and Hutch, maybe, or Crockett's Ferrari in Miami Vice (even though Tubbs' Caddy was an order of magnitude more cool), or Tom Selleck's 308 in Magnum P.I. - all OK, I guess. Again, if somebody says "Kit" from Night Rider, I'm going to have to take you out back to "talk" some sense into you.

There was really only one TV car in the '70s and '80s. It was wrong on every level, viewed through our middle-aged and post-everything eyes, but oh-so-right if you were a teenager in middle-America back in the day.

I'm speaking, of course, of the General Lee from the The Dukes of Hazzard, which was the very definition of the term "guilty pleasure". I'm sure we'd all probably be horrified to watch an episode now, but I'm not too proud to say that this was once a show I watched and enjoyed. I was not alone. Everybody loved Daisy Duke, and her shorts have entered the lexicon of Americana.

Hopefully, we've all evolved a bit since then

... but not as much as you'd think.

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Best movie car?

OK, I was young and impressionable.

But no one in my middle-class Philadelphia neighborhood of row homes owned one of these or would ever own one of these. I never saw one drive down the street and knew that if I stayed in Philadelphia my whole life, I would never ever see one drive down the street.

Seeing this car on this road got me thinking there are places on this earth even more exotic than Atlantic City, New Jersey, and that if I worked hard enough, I might get to see some of them some day.

It was 1969. I was 20. It was a seminal moment.

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@Stan Galat posted:

The 917 from Le Mans is obviously going to top any reasonable person's list of movie cars they'd like to own and drive, looking through the lens of experience available to us in 2022 - but in 1971, Le Mans was a vanity project for McQueen, and nobody understood it when it was in the theaters.

A little over 50 years ago me and some other dirt road southern boys got "volunteered" to go over to that obscure 3.27 mile road course called Virginia International Raceway on the weekends to flag the races.

We soon learned a bunch about cars that weren't the General Lee, the Bullitt Mustang, etc. We heard the scream of 12 cylinder exotics and the thunder of the big block Chevys in McLarens and Lolas as we stood in our blind corners holding our flags and fire extinguishers.

We learned that that those pitiful small block 302s in those new '67 Camaro Z28s weren't a smaller version of the 327. We also learned that the Boss 302s were just as much fun. Porsches delivered magic somehow with little 6 cylinder engines sounding like rabid Singer sewing machines stitching bubble wrap leaving you deaf for hours afterwards.  We didn't see the General Lee anywhere but on channel 5.

So yeah, when we got our popcorn and sat down to listen to the witty dialogue in Le Mans, we had our choice of seats. That wasn't a problem for a few rednecked teenagers who were lucky enough to be roped into volunteering some time at a little known raceway.

A few of us were awed by the 917 and like Konrad Lorenz's ducklings (ok, I know that's a stretch) we've loved it for life. I also am partial to the old Ginettas, but as far as I know, they never reached TV or movie stardom.

My vote goes to the 49 Merc.

@dlearl476 posted:

I have a pair of Fratelli Orsini deer skin gloves that I really love, but boy. Prices have gone up 40% since I bought mine. Come in 4 colors.

https://www.fratelli-orsini.co...loves-deerskin-brown

Pro Tip: Don’t buy S-M-L-XL gloves. Find your glove size and buy those. Not only will the fit be better, the quality in sized gloves is generally a lot higher than “4 sizes fit all” gloves.

Hair Club President!

I'm am shocked - SHOCKED, I say! - that no one has mentioned the 1928 Porter (fake - actually a customized Model T) from "My Mother the Car."

@Lane Anderson posted:

I'm am shocked - SHOCKED, I say! - that no one has mentioned the 1928 Porter (fake - actually a customized Model T) from "My Mother the Car."

I'm sorry, my mother the what?

For me it's pretty simple. There are two categories: every day and special occasion.

The TV car is gonna be an everyday driver. For this, I'm going pretty pedestrian with Jim Rockford's Firebird Esprit(or was it SE? can't remember). As a bonus for dummy trivia points, they used a POS Chevy Vega in the pilot. To my teenage self, this was it. No rebel-flagged Mopar for me, that was WAY too redneck. Rockford was unassuming and aww-shucks and so was the car. It got the job done well without being flashy or tacky.

For special occasions and a movie car I'm going with Dave Lear's honorable mention: Steve McQueen's 911 from the opening scene. Lose the chrome fender edge trim, but otherwise perfect. That car is the essence of what a 911 is and should always be. Any 911 from 1973 and earlier works for me. My personal preference is the 1972T/E/S coupe since I owned a T coupe for a while.

I'll add another category. Motorcycle. For me it is the Ducati Sport Classic from the TRON reboot. Yeah!

@Stan Galat posted:

I'm sorry, my mother the what?

We're not old enough, Stan.