Just got today my 550 Spyder (Seduction Motorsports) and the outside side wall of the front wheels are rubbing with the inner fender. Do you have any recommendations on what could be done to eliminate this problem.
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Not familiar with Spyders but are there stops for the steering? On VW bugs/Speedsters there is a bolt that is adjustable to strike the steering box pitman arm. It limits the turn radius. The bolts often break/rust off on old bugs. Just a thought.
It pusha on the steering box pitman arm.
Nice looking Spyder. Did you say you just got it? Was it a used purchase from another owner or new from Seduction? I ask only because I thought Seduction went out of business some time ago although I might be mistaken. I agree with the steering stop advice. in the mean time just don't turn the wheel that far..LOL.
It's not the steering stops, guys. Yes, Spyders have them, it's a standard beam, just welded-in instead of bolted.
I have a Vintage, which is what a Seduction is.
Three things to fix this. Two are easy.
First, raise the ride height slightly(or lose weight!).
Secondly, get some aftermarket camber adjusters and have an alignment done. I run 1.5 degrees negative camber, not zero or -0.5 degrees as most do. Then adjust toe-in to about 1/16th or an 1/8th inch toe-IN. There are aftermarket adjusters that give you a wider range of adjustment than stock.
https://www2.cip1.com/ProductD...Code=C13%2D22%2D2817
The third thing is to get a custom made front anti-sway bar. I made my own, I'm sorry commercially available bars don't fit the Spyder.
My car rubbed on the outside of the RF as your does at Lime Rock Park when I had a 275 pound instructor in the passenger seat. I'm 220 so a good amount of weight was lowering the car. Solo or with my 110 pound wife it NEVER rubs.
The fourth thing you can do, replace the steel wheels with the Vintage 190 aluminum wheels. The 4.5' that we use up front have a slightly deeper offset, that'll push the tire in. They are also about 12lbs lighter each.
https://www.vintagemotorcarsin...product/vintage-190/
You will also need longer studs with these wheels.
I can still get the front right tire to rub in very hard left handers with a bump and a passenger, but the roads I drive are very twisty and not the smoothest.
BTW, I also have a Seduction Spyder. Where are you located?
Thank you for all the inputs. I bought the car from a dealer in Tucson. I am located in Wichita,KS.
Very nice. Danny's car is white too. White is usually my go to color for cars, but I chose a graphite color for my Spyder. My interior is the same color as yours though.
I see you have a suby motor. This will be less maintenance if your not of the mechanical type.
Yeah, there are photos of my car(and a couple with Carlos') in the pics I posted on page 1 of the "2020 photo" thread in Speedsters: General.
It's amazing how small a Spyder looks next to that Boxster Spyder. First gen?
I have a first gen Cayman for fun on those not-so-perfect Spyder days.
GO550, what is your first name?
Gerardo
Welcome, hope to hear more from you. There are a few of us Spyder guys on here, way more Speedster dudes though.
Gerardo, a friend here in New England has a Suby powered Seduction Spyder and he loves it. And what’s not to like? Gorgeous bodywork, great interior and a reliable Subaru in back.
Enjoy your new toy!
I agree “variety is the spice of life”. As long as they are manual and the engine is behind.
@Gordon Nichols posted:Gerardo, a friend here in New England has a Suby powered Seduction Spyder and he loves it. And what’s not to like? Gorgeous bodywork, great interior and a reliable Subaru in back.
Enjoy your new toy!
Thank you. I’ve been looking for a long time to get a Spyder. For sure its a different driving experience.
Oh, it's different alright. You'll get used to it. It's fun. Limits are lower than those other rides, so be careful. The Spyder has a higher limit than a 356, but when it breaks traction it's really hard to catch without experience.
Congrats on your purchase, @GO550. That's a sweet looking Vintage and if it's the car I think it is, it's basically brand new. Go a little easy the first few months; there will be a few—probably very few—little kinks to work out like the tire rubbing issue.
@Jimmy V. posted:Nice looking Spyder. Did you say you just got it? Was it a used purchase from another owner or new from Seduction? I ask only because I thought Seduction went out of business some time ago although I might be mistaken. I agree with the steering stop advice. in the mean time just don't turn the wheel that far..LOL.
They’re out of business.
Is it bad that I solved the rubbing with a 5th option? I took a bit of the inner fender out 
Does the Beck rub on the top of the fender arch?
The Vintages rub under the fender top on the outermost edge of the tire, usually from the car being a bit too low on ride height. Or too much heft driving(sitting in) them.
But yeah, I've considered hitting that area with a drum sander on a drill. And dialing in a little more negative camber 
Mine rubbed, driver's side a little forward of the top of the inside arch.
Gerardo, is this the car you ended up buying?
@DannyP posted:Gerardo, is this the car you ended up buying?
Correct. It was originally built for Intels CEO back in 2015-16. It only had 125 km when I bought it . From one of the comments above maybe edsnova knows more about the car.
Do you know how many seduction 550 Spyder were built?
No, but Greg Leach built all the frames and bodies. Then shipped them to Daniel Verwers for assembly. I called him an assembler rather than a builder, he got quite miffed. But the truth is the truth, they are all Vintage Spyders, just assembled in Arizona instead of California.
I built as much of my car as Daniel ever did, got a kit from Greg, twice. First one in 2002, second in 2016 after the first got totaled.
Call Greg and ask him, he knows how many cars he sent there. I would say 50 or so.
If you are interested in building your own Spyder, PM me. I have a TIG welded DOM tube chassis for sale and matching fiberglass body
Took the Spyder out today for a 250 mile drive and the right front tire rubbing issue has been fixed.
Was this fixed with an alignment?
Lost some weight. I still need to adjust the ride height or the camber.
@GO550 posted:Took the Spyder out today for a 250 mile drive and the right front tire rubbing issue has been fixed.
Man, that White/Tan sure is pretty.
I got mine out today for about 25 miles. Had to try out my new PCCA sticker and Beck horn button.
And yes, after all the advice I've given about using windex to apply stickers, I didn't follow it and got it on crooked. Luckily, they were 10/$1.
PCCA stickers - Hella Sweet!
