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Hello all,

I have been a fan of this forum for a while and a big fan of the 356

I am a car builder near the Tampa Bay area in Fla and I wanted to introduce myself to you all. I am the designer and builder of the BUENO ZS7, a replica close look a like of the Saleen s7 super car. It was featured in REINCARNATION  magazine.

On one of my trips to Carlisle I became a big speedster fan and I decided to build a few, However as a builder  I did make a few changes to the design so I hope  that I do not upset anyone. I will have a lot more info to share real soon and I will post some pics after final assembly is complete,  The first one is about to go into paint and I have been uncertain of what color to go with, this car will be for sale so I would like some opinions on what colors are more popular in the speedster world. The interior color will be a yellowish tan.. once again I look forward to sharing all the details very soon,

Thanks..   John

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Welcome, John. We'll be waiting, but it's a tough crowd here. Lots and lots of guys purporting to be builders have come and gone over the years, and no small number of people have gotten burned.

I'm asking ahead of time that you understand this scepticism. It's not aimed at you in particular (nobody knows you here)-- it's just that a lot of people have tried and failed. I wish you success in your endeavour.

BTW: What a cool job.

John:

As a fellow Floridian, (I live in the Emerald Coast area of the panhandle) welcome!

I think it is fair to say that we fall into a couple of camps here. The traditionalists who lean towards keeping with the original colors and the adventurous for whom anything may go.

I guess it depends to some extent what "a few changes to the design" means in terms of what camp you may align with.

"Yellowish tan"? Black, red, any number of blues, cream. A departure might be a brown or a British Racing Green. Without seeing the design, it's hard to envision.

Of course, my opinion isn't worth a whole heck of a lot.

Good Luck!

Stan Galat, '05 IM, 2276, Nowhere, USA posted:

Welcome, John. We'll be waiting, but it's a tough crowd here. Lots and lots of guys purporting to be builders have come and gone over the years, and no small number of people have gotten burned.

I'm asking ahead of time that you understand this scepticism. It's not aimed at you in particular (nobody knows you here)-- it's just that a lot of people have tried and failed. I wish you success in your endeavour.

BTW: What a cool job.

Hi Stan, thank you for welcoming me aboard, I understand that it's going to take a  while for evryone to get comfortable with me, but I assure all that I will deliver on every commitment that I make. I have been building cars for over 20 years one at a time and have always come through for everyone. Now like I stated earlier my cars will be slightly  different  as you will soon see but if people like my work and would like to own one I will happily  build them one , I do all the work myself so I depend on no one therfore easier to control . the red Saleen you see in my Web page Buenodesigns was sold to the family that owns the minesota Vikings and was delivered  to them last July.   Thanks again. John.  Please give me your options on a color for this first one...

With regards to design camps, basically two, original looking or "outlaw" looking.

In both cases, they generally reflect the time period, either looking like factory or looking like someone hot-rodded a factory car back in the day.

As long as you stick to these two vibes, you'll have plenty of buyers.

If you start going too crazy, you will limit your client base IMHO.
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BobG posted:

John:

As a fellow Floridian, (I live in the Emerald Coast area of the panhandle) welcome!

I think it is fair to say that we fall into a couple of camps here. The traditionalists who lean towards keeping with the original colors and the adventurous for whom anything may go.

I guess it depends to some extent what "a few changes to the design" means in terms of what camp you may align with.

"Yellowish tan"? Black, red, any number of blues, cream. A departure might be a brown or a British Racing Green. Without seeing the design, it's hard to envision.

Of course, my opinion isn't worth a whole heck of a lot.

Good Luck!

Thank you Bob, I will keep you posted..

Tom Blankinship posted:
With regards to design camps, basically two, original looking or "outlaw" looking.

In both cases, they generally reflect the time period, either looking like factory or looking like someone hot-rodded a factory car back in the day.

As long as you stick to these two vibes, you'll have plenty of buyers.

If you start going too crazy, you will limit your client base IMHO.
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"Traditional" is pretty self-explanatory, but "outlaw" means different things to different people.

To me, "outlaw" means Emory-style traditional, with bumper and trim deletes. It's all pretty tame stuff where less becomes more. "Outlaw" to other people means "wide-body" or "anything goes". In that regard, I think whatever he does fits within that framework.

Can't really offer too much John, except welcome to the forum. As people have already said, it's a pretty small market as it is, and coloring too far outside the lines limits it even more, so good luck to you. To me a "modified" Speedster is more along the lines of an Emory "outlaw", so it'll be interesting to see what you've come up with. Colors- a deep burgandy or black? And my name is Al.

PS- just re-read your first post, and we'll either like it or we won't, and that's the beauty of these cars; it's yours, and you can do anything you want to it. And knowing this crowd, it won't be anywhere near unanimous; some will and some won't...

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Let's see.....  Colors;

Red will always sell, and so will Black, Dove Gray, several blues from Meissen to Azure, and Burgundy.  Those seem to be the most popular.  Not as many whites (and there is a spectrum of white out there from cream to Arctic) and few metallics, but the metallic and Pearlescent ones really pop (even if few people use them).  Terry's copper metallic one is pretty and unique (so is my Pearlescent White one) but those are more one-offs - not many out there.  That's all I've got.

Welcome to the site.  We're a lot like a neighborhood bar full of car guys, and the opinions can run from mild to wild, but we're a pretty decent bunch, with everything from solo builders to builders-as-a-business to weekend mechanics to check writers and drivers.  And, there is more good Speedster-related info on here than anywhere else......And we're willing to share it.   Sometimes too willing....   

Gordon

The Speedstah Guy from Massachusetts

 

Speedster values come in increments so to speak. Once you go past a particular price range you cross over into the two higher end well respected built speedsters. Proof in point, there are a number of  sellers on eBay who have purchased speedsters and coupes from SOC members assuming that they'll sell at high prices making a huge profit, what we do see is these no sale speedsters relisted over and over again.

Alan Merklin posted:

 

Speedster values come in increments so to speak. Once you go past a particular price range you cross over into the two higher end well respected built speedsters. Proof in point, there are a number of  sellers on eBay who have purchased speedsters and coupes from SOC members assuming that they'll sell at high prices making a huge profit, what we do see is these no sale speedsters relisted over and over again.

Valid point Alan, I have not pined down a price yet, I'm going to determine that at the end of the build and wait on public opinion .  I enjoy building unique cars so as long as I can stay in the green and make a few bucks Ill keep building them , I will be very competitive pricewise .

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