new vintage speedster, 1,000 miles

Lets get moving on the pics... it's been over an hour.

Shame on you for posting without having the pics ready. Now I have to check back every hour 

Sounds nice, unique color combo.

I'm still waiting for the right Speedster and the right time (about 13 months from now) but seeing these ads makes me wonder if the owner buys one of these new cars and is disappointed after only 1000 miles. He must have known how much storage was available when he first ordered it. I'll bet it's a beautiful car, so what really happened that he is selling it so quickly?

I test drove one of Kirt's Speedsters with a 1915 with Kadrons. Honestly, it felt like a stock 1600 to me. I have a 2276 with IDAs just waiting for the right car..... and I may end up having Kirt build a car for me minus the engine. Though I think I'd prefer a Beck. It just seems like there are a lot of these cars out there with very few miles and it makes me wonder what happened. Not enough storage? Probably not..

~  Do not hesitate as none of us know how many summers we have left to enjoy  ~

IMHO, people buy specialty cars on impulse some do the homework others just do the deed in the fit of passion.  These cars for the most part should be owned by those that have some mechanical ability as we are dealing with 50's and 60's technology so things need to be tweaked on a regular bases. Regretfully as times change and we are in the 'puter gadget world, more and more individuals have minimal mechanical knowledge of wrenching . "School 101" for me was fixing a bicycle flat, learning how to replace a chain, building a fort, lawn mower on my bicycle upgrading to an over powered mini bike and eventually learning how to build a small block 283 and Power Glide.....

My Painter guy was at my shop today to check on the build progress on speedster #41, in conversation he say's  " Man, there are fewer and fewer of us left that can do most anything, remember when, every man on our block was a Fix It Guy"  ?                      ............... so there you have it.

Antny - Photos!

PaulEllis posted:

I'm still waiting for the right Speedster and the right time (about 13 months from now) but seeing these ads makes me wonder if the owner buys one of these new cars and is disappointed after only 1000 miles. He must have known how much storage was available when he first ordered it. I'll bet it's a beautiful car, so what really happened that he is selling it so quickly?

I test drove one of Kirt's Speedsters with a 1915 with Kadrons. Honestly, it felt like a stock 1600 to me. I have a 2276 with IDAs just waiting for the right car..... and I may end up having Kirt build a car for me minus the engine. Though I think I'd prefer a Beck. It just seems like there are a lot of these cars out there with very few miles and it makes me wonder what happened. Not enough storage? Probably not..

this customer is happy how the car performs. he has a nice cabrio do drive also. I will be picking it up at his summer place and bring it down to my shop.

pictures will be coming shortly

right in terry knuckles back yard, he could check it out

barncobob posted:

right in terry knuckles back yard, he could check it out

If I may: it's in Anthony's shop, and he's already checked it out.

Several years ago, before Anthony was posting here, I had him check out a '63 bus in Carson City, NV for me (on Terry's recommendation). I purchased the bus, based on Tony's assessment, and it was exactly as he said it was.

Tony knows what he's doing. If he's vouching for the car, then it's been "pre-sorted". 

As far as Paul's observation: The rich aren't like you and me. They have money.

As Alan says, lots of people with $30K in loose change buy on impulse, then sell when they figure out James Dean was more of a hard-case then they are, and no matter how cool the car is-- there's always going to be somebody calling them a fake (or something).

Waiting is good, up to a point-- then it just becomes time lost. Prices on these things keep going up. 15 years ago, a decent pan-based car like this was a $15K affair, now it's pushing on $30K. I'm not going to opine if it's worth it or not, it's just a statement of fact.

Research is good-- but until you own something, you'll never know if it's in your bones or not.  There are no shortage of people (obviously) who try it and decide it's not for them. I've watched guys hope and pray and check out cars for years-- then buy and have the balloon be deflated in front of their eyes.

A Beck or Intermeccanica is a great vehicle, if your budget will allow it. Ron O'Black's car was the deal of the century. Sometimes you've just gotta' jump.

Anthony posted:

I have a customer that has a vintage speedster for sale. Royal Blue, tan interior with blue piping to match the paint. the latest VDO/GPS gauges, runs great, 1915 with kadron/solex designed carbs. new clutch cable with spare, very detailed to look period correct. stainless luggage rack, Badges. this car has a original California orange Plate with complete registration and clear title. This is one of those complete cars that the new owner can just get in and drive it. Reason for selling is customer has to many cars and not enough storage for them.

I will post pictures shortly. 29,400 or offer.

530-887-0800 Auburn Ca.

Photos, I will have better photos as soon as I can get the car to the shop. I will take some with the car on the lift. This is not a fire sale do to a unsatisfied customer. The owner enjoys the car. Driven only in the summer to cruise around the lake.

call me at the shop or cell

530-887-0800 or 1-916-255-7996

Absolutely great color combo. Can't see the wheels yet though

Alan Merklin posted:

~  Do not hesitate as none of us know how many summers we have left to enjoy  ~

 

100% spot on Doc!

Nice car.

Very pretty.  With Stan's endorsement this is one I wouldn't have any hesitation on.

It's a beauty alright. Let us have a look at the wheels.

I like that exterior/interior color combo.

Nice car cover, who made that one?

Alan Merklin posted:

~  Do not hesitate as none of us know how many summers we have left to enjoy  ~

IMHO, people buy specialty cars on impulse some do the homework others just do the deed in the fit of passion.  These cars for the most part should be owned by those that have some mechanical ability as we are dealing with 50's and 60's technology so things need to be tweaked on a regular bases. Regretfully as times change and we are in the 'puter gadget world, more and more individuals have minimal mechanical knowledge of wrenching . "School 101" for me was fixing a bicycle flat, learning how to replace a chain, building a fort, lawn mower on my bicycle upgrading to an over powered mini bike and eventually learning how to build a small block 283 and Power Glide.....

My Painter guy was at my shop today to check on the build progress on speedster #41, in conversation he say's  " Man, there are fewer and fewer of us left that can do most anything, remember when, every man on our block was a Fix It Guy"  ?                      ............... so there you have it.

 

Dr. Clock I Agree wholly with your statement to not hesitate...life is but a brief blip....and moreover prices are climbing seemingly daily! Hooray!!!

I bought my speedie because I can work on it and I love the original mark (classics mostly the pre-80's). I have owned a real '61 1600 Super with a Karman removable hard top and I loved how it looked. Was just a snot nosed kid when I bought the "notch-back" for $1900 bucks  and I loved working on that one "to make it mine" and keep it running. Unfortunately I had to sell it because I inadvertently became the local midnight auto supply to people who ripped parts off of it anywhere I drove it, and I could not afford to do that any longer...Because I loved then (and still do love now) wrenching and knuckle busting I bought cars low, fixed em and sold high to get the next car I wanted and was fairly successful at it. Was I wiser (and had more $$$) then and had a crystal ball I would have put the old girl in a barn and covered it for 40 years and made some real dough! Ah well we all have those stories don't we? Similarly I bought in the early 90's a '76 912E and loved and cared for it, drove it a while and then sold it...still no crystal ball damn it!!! I can look back now however and just enjoy the fact that I drove two fantastic Porsches for a while, loved working on them and now own the '56 Carrera Speedster REPLICA .  I bought it so I can run to the grocery store or as MusbJim says "it's my daily driver" - but we still get more oohs and aahhhs and thumbs up.  I bought mine with MusbJim's help to vette it for $12K about 2 years ago and I am in total disbelief that these "plastic cars" are now in the $20K+ range. But as Stan Galat so wisely says " I'm not going to opine if it's worth it or not, it's just a statement of fact." Geez Musbjim...maybe we better rethink the "daily driver or grocery getter" mentality, but isn't it great to drive these beauties and with great joy, and do it while we still can!!! Granted the ole body is not as supine as it was when I was 20 but I still love the fact that this is truly one of the very few cars you still throw up on a lift or a jack and put a wrench to any part of and maintain your self -  and that my friends is one of the greatest joys this car brings to me in addition to driving it and truly still feeling the road. So to anyone looking to get one of these I say do your research and have your $$ ready to jump on one of these because they will love you back if you take care of them and give you many hours of pure car pleasure!

Lane Anderson posted:

Very pretty.  With Stan's endorsement this is one I wouldn't have any hesitation on.

It's Anthony's endorsement that really matters. Anthony knows the car, I've never seen it.

But I know Anthony, and he's the real deal. Buy with confidence.

Dutch posted:

Nice car cover, who made that one?

Alan Merklin posted:

~  Do not hesitate as none of us know how many summers we have left to enjoy  ~

IMHO, people buy specialty cars on impulse some do the homework others just do the deed in the fit of passion.  These cars for the most part should be owned by those that have some mechanical ability as we are dealing with 50's and 60's technology so things need to be tweaked on a regular bases. Regretfully as times change and we are in the 'puter gadget world, more and more individuals have minimal mechanical knowledge of wrenching . "School 101" for me was fixing a bicycle flat, learning how to replace a chain, building a fort, lawn mower on my bicycle upgrading to an over powered mini bike and eventually learning how to build a small block 283 and Power Glide.....

My Painter guy was at my shop today to check on the build progress on speedster #41, in conversation he say's  " Man, there are fewer and fewer of us left that can do most anything, remember when, every man on our block was a Fix It Guy"  ?                      ............... so there you have it.

 

Dr. Clock I Agree wholly with your statement to not hesitate...life is but a brief blip....and moreover prices are climbing seemingly daily! Hooray!!!

I bought my speedie because I can work on it and I love the original mark (classics mostly the pre-80's). I have owned a real '61 1600 Super with a Karman removable hard top and I loved how it looked. Was just a snot nosed kid when I bought the "notch-back" for $1900 bucks  and I loved working on that one "to make it mine" and keep it running. Unfortunately I had to sell it because I inadvertently became the local midnight auto supply to people who ripped parts off of it anywhere I drove it, and I could not afford to do that any longer...Because I loved then (and still do love now) wrenching and knuckle busting I bought cars low, fixed em and sold high to get the next car I wanted and was fairly successful at it. Was I wiser (and had more $$$) then and had a crystal ball I would have put the old girl in a barn and covered it for 40 years and made some real dough! Ah well we all have those stories don't we? Similarly I bought in the early 90's a '76 912E and loved and cared for it, drove it a while and then sold it...still no crystal ball damn it!!! I can look back now however and just enjoy the fact that I drove two fantastic Porsches for a while, loved working on them and now own the '56 Carrera Speedster REPLICA .  I bought it so I can run to the grocery store or as MusbJim says "it's my daily driver" - but we still get more oohs and aahhhs and thumbs up.  I bought mine with MusbJim's help to vette it for $12K about 2 years ago and I am in total disbelief that these "plastic cars" are now in the $20K+ range. But as Stan Galat so wisely says " I'm not going to opine if it's worth it or not, it's just a statement of fact." Geez Musbjim...maybe we better rethink the "daily driver or grocery getter" mentality, but isn't it great to drive these beauties and with great joy, and do it while we still can!!! Granted the ole body is not as supine as it was when I was 20 but I still love the fact that this is truly one of the very few cars you still throw up on a lift or a jack and put a wrench to any part of and maintain your self -  and that my friends is one of the greatest joys this car brings to me in addition to driving it and truly still feeling the road. So to anyone looking to get one of these I say do your research and have your $$ ready to jump on one of these because they will love you back if you take care of them and give you many hours of pure car pleasure!

If we don't drive them, we can't fix them...I'm adriving and affixing!

I'm 60 now and have been into VWs since I was 15. My youngest son (21) and I both have VW drag cars. Mine would run 11s if I came off the line harder...... I just can't seem to bring myself to dumping the clutch so the best I've done is 12.20 at 109 mph. My son's car is a Herbie replica that we built from the ground up. It's a street legal 1963 rag that runs low 13s.

Point being that I agree with the prior poster when he writes about working on your car. That's a large part to the fun. I've loved the look of the 356 since I was a kid and promised myself I'd have one, one day. I retire in 13 months, September 2017. I've seen some really nice cars I wish I could have jumped on but I have to wait until I can get at my investment funds and pay cash for my dream car. When I have the money and see the right 356..... I'll be all over it. I imagine flying to where ever it is and driving it home, top down wind in my hair (what there is of it). I've never had a type 4 engine with the Porsche fan shroud so I think that would be cool. There are so many variables. I would love to choose the color, British racing green I think but if the right car appears and it happens to be white, black or red, I'll jump on it. After all, we can change the color sometime down the road. Of course, the engine can also be changed, quite easily really. So I know what I'm getting myself into and look forward to it.

Paul..just a thought. have someone do a roller for you,  less the drive train....you and your son perform the final magic.

Alan, that's my thought too. Vintage seems like a lot less money than Beck. Being in Phoenix, we drove over to Vintage last summer and if I remember right, we could get a roller for about $23K. Though I think I'd rather have the Beck. What are your thoughts on the two platforms?

I've seen a few 6 or 7 year old Becks, all dialed in for about the same money but then I don't get to pick the color etc. Aren't you one of the few guys on here that rebuild older cars and sell them on after making sure all the "bugs" are sorted? I'm trying to be patient and get the right car. I've only driven one, but I've been driving VW of all types for most of my life. I've had a couple fiberglass dune buggies on shorten pans and enjoyed them.

I feel like a 356 with a Subie is a sin. I want a good reliable driver, but at the same time I look forward to working on it. I'm not one of those guys that doesn't understand what he's getting into. My son and I drove his Herbie up to Vegas a couple of years ago for the Bugorama, about 750 miles round trip. At that time his engine was a 2332 with 48 Dells. It didn't lose a drop of oil or give us any kind of problem, except running out of gas in the middle of nowhere. Driving at 3500 rpm resulted in 14 mpg. We had a great time driving a car we built.

That's the sort of thing I look forward to with my own 356. Damn, I can hardly wait. 

There are some (at least 3) well sorted cars on the market right now for decent money...The longer you wait the more you'll pay!

Take a look at the current three available...well worth it.

PaulEllis posted:

Alan, that's my thought too. Vintage seems like a lot less money than Beck. Being in Phoenix, we drove over to Vintage last summer and if I remember right, we could get a roller for about $23K. Though I think I'd rather have the Beck. What are your thoughts on the two platforms?

I've seen a few 6 or 7 year old Becks, all dialed in for about the same money but then I don't get to pick the color etc. Aren't you one of the few guys on here that rebuild older cars and sell them on after making sure all the "bugs" are sorted? I'm trying to be patient and get the right car. I've only driven one, but I've been driving VW of all types for most of my life. I've had a couple fiberglass dune buggies on shorten pans and enjoyed them.

I feel like a 356 with a Subie is a sin. I want a good reliable driver, but at the same time I look forward to working on it. I'm not one of those guys that doesn't understand what he's getting into. My son and I drove his Herbie up to Vegas a couple of years ago for the Bugorama, about 750 miles round trip. At that time his engine was a 2332 with 48 Dells. It didn't lose a drop of oil or give us any kind of problem, except running out of gas in the middle of nowhere. Driving at 3500 rpm resulted in 14 mpg. We had a great time driving a car we built.

That's the sort of thing I look forward to with my own 356. Damn, I can hardly wait. 

Paul, I found my speedie in an Orange County Register newspaper  advert(local paper where I live) of all things. It was a fluke but the price was right and I know it needed a few things to clean it up and did some of that myself. It's a great little car and I believe it is a early CMC built IM best I could tell. Just do your research, know what you want, and have the cash ready! I also feel that putting a Subie engine into 356 just takes away from the overall esthetics of the mark, but I understand why people do that and as always, to each their own. Good hunting and you will find what you want, just don't wait too long.

Id wait till Jan-Feb when its minus 17, sellers are more motivated then..just a thought

If I needed a new speedster, this one checks all the right boxes for me. Color combination is spectacular. What wheels? Wide 5?

Anthony is legit. Can't go wrong.

Wheels are 4 lug chromed with Porsche nipple caps

IMHO Porsche nipple caps are the best classic look~

I agree, Jims silver speedster had that classic look

More pictures. Car was originally purchased from Barrett Jackson in AZ. Owner shipped to Maryland and after a divorce and 100 miles the current owner purchased it.

Really nice car!

I like that car. Nice color combo. 

bump!.......

Are you sure that's a VS?    I don't see ta VW hand brake on the tunnel.

Jethro posted:

Are you sure that's a VS?    I don't see ta VW hand brake on the tunnel.

There are some who remove the handbrake. They either install an umbrella style brake under the dash or something else. @Former Member has a slick setup. You press the footbrake then a button under the and it locks the brake. Press the brake again and it releases.

SOLD SOLD SOLD

SOLD?  It's still listed on SAMBA for sale.  Did sale fall through?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/cla...etail.php?id=1959821

Is car still for sale?  I might be interested.