Nice outlaw coupe on ebay

Very cool looking.

2232 engine with four wheel drum brakes.....yikes.

Only $10K -- what's wrong with it??

10k current bid.  I'm sure the reserve is closer to 40-45k

-=theron

Very Nice!

El Frazoo posted:

Only $10K -- what's wrong with it??

Already up to $20,100

I just noticed that the ad says "1962 356B recreation" but it's obviously a 356A, probably a JPS from the lack of drip rails.  Still a nice looking car, though.

It is, indeed, a hybrid odd duck...The 'A' coupes had one piece door glass where this coupe appears to have wing vents

The things that turn me off are: drum brakes, crummy finish work, and the rear windows. I love the way the engine looks, but there is no info on it - who built it, hp , carbs, compression ratio, oil cooler, etc... Also I wish I cold see the frame better. I am sure it has some sort of ladder frame, but I can not see it. It does have some very nice touches, but  it is , once again, a 'must see in person - kind of thing.' I keep a knurled  transmission drain plug sitting in front of me , here at the computer. To remind me never to buy again, without checking it out in person. That knurled bolt was a sad story... 

The "matte finish" look on cars is so over the shark. 

Tough crowd! Bwaaaaa haaaaaaaa. 

I would not kick this coupe out of bed!

Someone paid a lot of attention  ($$$) to complimentary details to visually present their concept of 'Outlaw'....but skipping over disk brakes is perplexing and makes me wonder what else has been overlooked as a cost saving measure?

Nicely packaged 'Disk Kits' off the retailer shelf are expensive and NOT installing them keeps your checkbook fat, but aren't there compatible units in wrecking yards available for pennies on the dollar?....Who has gone that route?....and what vehicle was cannibalized for its brakes?  

tough crowd indeed -- it's what we do.

$29,900 with 7 days to go. People like the bling 

MotoCarlo posted:

... I love the way the engine looks, but there is no info on it - who built it, hp , carbs, compression ratio, oil cooler, etc... Also I wish I cold see the frame better. I am sure it has some sort of ladder frame, but I can not see it...

And you guys think it's just me- Hahhh!!!

And Carlos, you forgot to ask about the cam and heads...

Worldwide (the seller) has some inaccurate background information on 356 Porsches' which leaves me to believe that they really don't understand what they're peddling and instead are promoting an image with polished media hyperbole.....I just hope that the high bidders are first hand familiar with this coupe, with an in-depth knowledge of its build components and reputation of its builder, because it has the potential to be an expensive albatross draped around a starry-eyed buyer's neck!  

It's at 29K now with seven days to go?  I'll wager the bidding creeps up to 36K...What's your guess?  

This is the sort of vehicle that someone will fall madly in love with-it does look really cool-and then, after putting up with all of its idiosyncrasies will sell it within a year of ownership.

You've got to be a bit of an odd-ball to own one of these replicas for a long period of time......don't we.

drilled door handles, gas cap, and mirror mounts...really???

32k is my thought

Dutch posted:

drilled door handles, gas cap, and mirror mounts...really???

Looks like someone got a set of drill bits for Christmas and wanted to try them all out.

Alan Merklin posted:

32k is my thought

Let's hope...maybe $34K? Good indicator that these "Specialty cars" are really loved and bettet yet, valued!

Robert M (Not a Poopiehead) posted:

Dutch posted:

drilled door handles, gas cap, and mirror mounts...really???

Looks like someone got a set of drill bits for Christmas and wanted to try them all out.

I wonder if they whistle at speed...

.The drill bit quote reminds me of this........

Alan Merklin posted:

.The drill bit quote reminds me of this........

 

No picture Alan. Is this the one you were talking about:

Terry Nuckels posted:

Robert M (Not a Poopiehead) posted:

Dutch posted:

drilled door handles, gas cap, and mirror mounts...really???

Looks like someone got a set of drill bits for Christmas and wanted to try them all out.

I wonder if they whistle at speed...

In forward they whistle "Dixie", in reverse they whistle "I'm a goofy goober".

Maybe have to start upping the guesses as to what this will go for.

Bidding suddenly at US $34,333.00

All it takes is 2 people that think they really want that car. 

I'm guessing all we're seeing are straw bidders just to get it up close to reserve.  Seems way too early in the auction to see this number.

It's a cool car with many (to much?) unique features. I'm sure it has the attention of many of us...

"What"?

Odd bidding by 279?

Allow me to play the part of a cynical devil's advocate:

First, I think Tom Williams comment about the possibility of "straw bidding" is probably what's going on... promoting the impression of a greater legit interest in this vehicle, and its perceived value, than there actually is.

Secondly, according to Worldwide's inaccurate description of this vehicle they don't really understand what it is, and isn't... It isn't "an exact CCW replica of a  356B"  It's someones homogenized idea of an A coupe...and  (in my cynical opinion) a sloppy one at that!  Unfortunately all the photos are dark: delivering an 'impression' instead of revealing details....but if you squint and look closely you'll notice that the engine lid is ill fitting; that the trunk lid has unequal gaps from side to side; that there's no windshield wipers; that the windshield molding is short and doesn't enclose (weatherproof) the entire windshield; that there are no door window winders (are the windows electric?); that the odd wing vets are non functioning but probably have something to do with securing the door windows (plexiglass?); then there's the crummy air vents originating in the crummy plastic quarter rear windows and 'hosed' into the engine bay....and the fiberglass "spydering" on the body is most likely because of uncured shrinkage. The tail lights are the builders idea of unique and cute but not very practical.  

Perhaps the biggest red flag of this supposedly 50K build is that someone became very dissatisfied after only 16 hundred miles on the odometer. Maybe trying to slow down that "monster engine" with scary drum brakes became too nerve-wracking? 

Now $34,333 

Odd bids aren't really that rare as bidders can try to ramp it up and find the reserve price. I hate to think sellers put in fake bids but no doubt it happens.

Carl Berry CT. posted:

Allow me to play the part of a cynical devil's advocate:

First, I think Tom Williams comment about the possibility of "straw bidding" is probably what's going on... promoting the impression of a greater legit interest in this vehicle, and its perceived value, than there actually is.

Secondly, according to Worldwide's inaccurate description of this vehicle they don't really understand what it is, and isn't... It isn't "an exact CCW replica of a  356B"  It's someones homogenized idea of an A coupe...and  (in my cynical opinion) a sloppy one at that!  Unfortunately all the photos are dark: delivering an 'impression' instead of revealing details....but if you squint and look closely you'll notice that the engine lid is ill fitting; that the trunk lid has unequal gaps from side to side; that there's no windshield wipers; that the windshield molding is short and doesn't enclose (weatherproof) the entire windshield; that there are no door window winders (are the windows electric?); that the odd wing vets are non functioning but probably have something to do with securing the door windows (plexiglass?); then there's the crummy air vents originating in the crummy plastic quarter rear windows and 'hosed' into the engine bay....and the fiberglass "spydering" on the body is most likely because of uncured shrinkage. The tail lights are the builders idea of unique and cute but not very practical.  

Perhaps the biggest red flag of this supposedly 50K build is that someone became very dissatisfied after only 16 hundred miles on the odometer. Maybe trying to slow down that "monster engine" with scary drum brakes became too nerve-wracking? 

I hadn't noticed those...looks like clothes dryer vent hose 

Still a very cool looking car imo but not mid 30's cool since I'd want to hold at least 5K back to fix the unforeseen....

Lane Anderson posted:

I just noticed that the ad says "1962 356B recreation" but it's obviously a 356A, probably a JPS from the lack of drip rails.  Still a nice looking car, though.

Bet the chassis is a 1962

Just a general fiy about finish work.
Often a satin finish is used to cover body flaws. A gloss finish will really show off any fill, body work, or damage. A good satin finish is beautiful too. It would be applied as a smooth top coat with a sterate in it to create the sheen. Not a gloss that was sanded to a satin finish. When you can see sanding scratches and fill, the "sanded to a flat finish" was the method used...
Just saying - when you can see the scratches , it shows low quality workmanship potentially hiding other bad workmanship. 

Good info...but you know, girls with damaged goods can really put out!

"that there are no door window winders (are the windows electric?"

No, if you look closely at the two photos I'm attaching you can see the window is a manual lowering window. As in you need to grab the handle attached to the plexi-glass window and lower it your self. If the first photo with the window up you can see a knurled handle attached to the plexi-glass where the top of the window is at the rear edge. 

In the second photo you can see the knurled handle in the center of the window along the bottom of the rail where you'd rest your arm if you were cruising with the windows down.

If you look closely at the "window up" photo (photo 1) you can also see that the window doesn't close properly. Unless of course they left it open partially for a reason.

Clarification...I stated that 356A coupes didn't have triangular wing vents as the later B & C's did. True,... BUT the pre-pre A coupes DID

These 50 aluminum bodied Gmund built coupes  (split windshield, body integrated bumpers, and shallow rear wheel wells)  did have triangular wing vents although I don't think they were functional.