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Say it aint so! email me off site please Ron.
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Say it aint so! email me off site please Ron.
Yes, that's right. I'm thinking of selling my beautiful 84 IM roadster. Just when I've got everything almost perfect.
Here is the low-down:
1984 Porsche 356 replica-Intermeccanica
English white, with red leather interior and black top
24,000 original miles
This car is in beautiful condition. The original paint still shines and the fiberglass is in excellent condition. The 1969 IRS pan is absolutely perfect.
Below is a list of the many, many performance parts and upgrades.
Motor
New 2110 motor (approximately 500 miles on upgrade)
Very fast, with lots of low end torque. 70 mph cruising is only 3400 rpm
Includes: 82mm forged crank
Scat Rods
Pauter 1.3 rockers
Ported & polished 044 heads
Web 86b cam
Weber 44 dual carbs
Mallory unilite vacuum distributor
Aurora CD box, with built in high performance coil
This box is very similar to an MSD
Electric fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator and SS
fuel lines.
Gene Berg Power Achiever crank pulley
Gene Berg Big sump (3 quart) for a total
of 6.5 litres.
Exhaust system
Near new custom made merged 1 5/8" exhaust system. Includes stainless steel Magnaflow muffler, and custom made 1 5/8" heater boxes. Entire system is ceramic coated. Cost: $1800 Can.
Cooling
Bernie Bergman 911 style shroud, with external oil cooler and filter. Includes CSP center pull carb linkage.
Transmission
New heavy duty ring and pinion,
Here is the low-down:
1984 Porsche 356 replica-Intermeccanica
English white, with red leather interior and black top
24,000 original miles
This car is in beautiful condition. The original paint still shines and the fiberglass is in excellent condition. The 1969 IRS pan is absolutely perfect.
Below is a list of the many, many performance parts and upgrades.
Motor
New 2110 motor (approximately 500 miles on upgrade)
Very fast, with lots of low end torque. 70 mph cruising is only 3400 rpm
Includes: 82mm forged crank
Scat Rods
Pauter 1.3 rockers
Ported & polished 044 heads
Web 86b cam
Weber 44 dual carbs
Mallory unilite vacuum distributor
Aurora CD box, with built in high performance coil
This box is very similar to an MSD
Electric fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator and SS
fuel lines.
Gene Berg Power Achiever crank pulley
Gene Berg Big sump (3 quart) for a total
of 6.5 litres.
Exhaust system
Near new custom made merged 1 5/8" exhaust system. Includes stainless steel Magnaflow muffler, and custom made 1 5/8" heater boxes. Entire system is ceramic coated. Cost: $1800 Can.
Cooling
Bernie Bergman 911 style shroud, with external oil cooler and filter. Includes CSP center pull carb linkage.
Transmission
New heavy duty ring and pinion,
Attachments
You've got mail, Stan.
Ron
Ron
Oh no RonO! You mean you're leaving us? Who am I gonna bug now? Tell me, do you sell like you buy or do you buy like you sell?
Your loyal antithesis
John H.
Your loyal antithesis
John H.
RonO,
Why????? It was you two Rons who alerted me to what has been dubbed as the 84/91 IM. What's next?
PS - Really neat wheels, but my wife says no!
Joe
Why????? It was you two Rons who alerted me to what has been dubbed as the 84/91 IM. What's next?
PS - Really neat wheels, but my wife says no!
Joe
Former Member
Ron you will kick yourself latter. But you still have the Porsche truck
So, what will be replacing it.
A Turbo Miata?????
A four door Buick????
We need to know.
A Turbo Miata?????
A four door Buick????
We need to know.
If I sell her I'll probably still hang around. Then I can say, "When I had my 84 IM she could......" (note that the line between fact and fiction blurs with time).
Ron
Ron
Ron,
I've been checking and checking.... no mail. Are your SURE you really want to sell, or are you just pulling our collective leg?
I've been checking and checking.... no mail. Are your SURE you really want to sell, or are you just pulling our collective leg?
Yea Stan. Wouldn't that be the perfect spoof? We would have to coin a new phrase, how very "RonO" of you for the miscreant leg pullers. (not that there are any on this site.......)
John H
John H
From "Joe Pea's" wife: Well, guys, I just have to set the record straight, lest I seem like the big bad wolfette. Those Fuchs look really cool, but I fell in L-O-V-E with the baby moons on "Emily" when she arrived -- oh, so pretty in white -- from Canada. I've never been into cars, so this is a totally new experience for me. But hubby (I posted this at night, so I know you're blushing as you read this at work in the morning!), she's your car and I'm just along for the ride. I think all you 356 nuts are great, and I love how you love your cars. Keep on crusin'. -- Gin
Stan, I sent you an email. I'll try again.
Robert, did you get my email? Just checking, as I've been having some trouble with my email.
No, this isn't a spoof. The car is really up for sale.
Ron
Robert, did you get my email? Just checking, as I've been having some trouble with my email.
No, this isn't a spoof. The car is really up for sale.
Ron
Former Member
That car can't be selling for $18,000 US. I think Ron was on the pipe a little to much this week!!
He really wants to get $28,000 US.
How many times do I have to tell you Ronny not to sell yourself short, or your Tub for that matter.
Good luck Ron I hope you get all you can for that great lill speedster of yours..
He really wants to get $28,000 US.
How many times do I have to tell you Ronny not to sell yourself short, or your Tub for that matter.
Good luck Ron I hope you get all you can for that great lill speedster of yours..
Ron:
No email as yet, but I did see your car on Samba. Very impressive ad.
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No email as yet, but I did see your car on Samba. Very impressive ad.
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Crap. I emailed both you and Stan last night. Double crap, as it was a long post...okay, I'll give you the highlights:
Yes it's for sale. Yes I'm stupid to sell it. Yes, I'll lose a bundle, and I'm seriously looking at a Subaru WRX STi as its replacement.
I have to admit that a WRX passed me, while driving down the freeway, and I didn't give it a second glance. It looks like all the other Japanese compacts. So why am I selling my beautiful IM for a plain Jane Japanese car? Only my psychiatrist know and he's ethically bound not to tell. He will tell you that I'm nuttier than a fruitcake (which I'm sure that some of you already know).
Ron
Yes it's for sale. Yes I'm stupid to sell it. Yes, I'll lose a bundle, and I'm seriously looking at a Subaru WRX STi as its replacement.
I have to admit that a WRX passed me, while driving down the freeway, and I didn't give it a second glance. It looks like all the other Japanese compacts. So why am I selling my beautiful IM for a plain Jane Japanese car? Only my psychiatrist know and he's ethically bound not to tell. He will tell you that I'm nuttier than a fruitcake (which I'm sure that some of you already know).
Ron
Why don't you have Steve build you a car with a WRX motor. He has one sitting on his shop floor. Best of both worlds? That way you don't have to throw away your baby with the bath water.
RonO: Hate to hear you're selling her. Be sure to do your homework on the wrx. I really like my outback and the AWD system but the engines aren't as bullet proof like they used to be. A GOOD warranty is a must.
BD
BD
Ron:
Living in the north, I can understand how you might want to sell a car you have to put away for four or five months out of the year. For us, these cars are summer drivers only (at least if you want to keep it in shape for resale someday), and unless you are rolling in dough, a more practical, year round vehicle can look very appealing.
Good luck.
Bob
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Living in the north, I can understand how you might want to sell a car you have to put away for four or five months out of the year. For us, these cars are summer drivers only (at least if you want to keep it in shape for resale someday), and unless you are rolling in dough, a more practical, year round vehicle can look very appealing.
Good luck.
Bob
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Former Member
Was it something I said?
Reading this post makes me feel like one of my friends is getting a divorce or something.... Don't be too quick to jump! These things can be worked out you know. Have you tried counciling.
Actually you have been making noises along these lines for a while now, but it still comes as a surprise.
Your brother Ron.
Reading this post makes me feel like one of my friends is getting a divorce or something.... Don't be too quick to jump! These things can be worked out you know. Have you tried counciling.
Actually you have been making noises along these lines for a while now, but it still comes as a surprise.
Your brother Ron.
Think pretty hard about it Ron. My 19 year old daughter's Miata starts and runs well every day, doesn't leak a drop of oil on the ground or water in the cabin, makes good heat and cold air, is cheap to own, cheap to operate, and cheap to insure. My car (on the other hand) is up on jack-stands in the "sacred place" in the garage waiting for an exhaust (or valve adjustment, or carb de-bugging, or "fill in your problem of the day here"), hers is parked in the street and runs like a banshee on a wal-mart oil change every 5000 mi or so.
She was gracious enough to let me drive her car today. It was tight, quiet and smooth. It handled more neutrally than my car will ever hope to. I could hear the stereo. But I missed my car. I was in a better car that cost a third as much (soon to be a quarter as much if I can pull the trigger on a 2110 from Pat Downs) as my car- and I kept thinking about my speedster. You will too. A WRX is a fine automobile, but it's no Intermeccanica. Sell the truck and the single cab, sell your furnature if you have to, then buy the WRX, or MR2, or S2000. In my experiance- when you have poured as much of yourself, and time, and money into something as you have in the your car, you'll regret the day you sell for a long, long time. I've done it. Steady, man.
She was gracious enough to let me drive her car today. It was tight, quiet and smooth. It handled more neutrally than my car will ever hope to. I could hear the stereo. But I missed my car. I was in a better car that cost a third as much (soon to be a quarter as much if I can pull the trigger on a 2110 from Pat Downs) as my car- and I kept thinking about my speedster. You will too. A WRX is a fine automobile, but it's no Intermeccanica. Sell the truck and the single cab, sell your furnature if you have to, then buy the WRX, or MR2, or S2000. In my experiance- when you have poured as much of yourself, and time, and money into something as you have in the your car, you'll regret the day you sell for a long, long time. I've done it. Steady, man.
Is there any type of drive better than a top down-sunny day drive in one of these cars? I wish we had more sunny days up here in the 'rain forest'. I envy you guys in the south, with your year-round warm, sunny days. Of course, some would say that having fewer days makes those days all that for special.
Ron
Ron
You're right, Ron. We up here in the Great White/Wet North spend half our lives waiting for warm, dry days, and half our days sleeping or in darkness. So, the actual time we drive these cars is quite miniscule.
Ah, but the satisfaction when all elements fall together. A well running roadster, bright sun, a slight breeze, twisty roads and an exhaust note that just hums.
Aye, matey. Lower the hood, secure the bonnet, clean the windscreen, fill up with petrol, and away we go.
The joy of the open road.
Poop! Poop! (as Toad would say)
Ah, but the satisfaction when all elements fall together. A well running roadster, bright sun, a slight breeze, twisty roads and an exhaust note that just hums.
Aye, matey. Lower the hood, secure the bonnet, clean the windscreen, fill up with petrol, and away we go.
The joy of the open road.
Poop! Poop! (as Toad would say)
Former Member
as someone who built his car in the north (NY) and 2 years ago relocated to the south (Fl) i can impart 2 self evident truths. (a new yorker in florida? what are the odds)
1) You can have 365 perfect driving days in a row, and in my speedster, everyone of those rides will be as glorious as the first.
but.....
2) I would gladly trade any of you 2 - 3 months of beautiful weather just to have some decent roads. This place is so flat and straight I am about to lose my mind.
I built this car for its handling, and i don't think i turned the steering wheel in 24 months!
As for my advice for selling your baby.
You got to do what you got to do. Take lots of pictures (OK, lots more) and take solace in the fact that you can always get another one, all those times you said "if I only knew then what I know now". The next one will be even better.
There may be nothing better then your first love, but most of us are happy we didn't marry them!
Best of luck with your decision.
Rob
1) You can have 365 perfect driving days in a row, and in my speedster, everyone of those rides will be as glorious as the first.
but.....
2) I would gladly trade any of you 2 - 3 months of beautiful weather just to have some decent roads. This place is so flat and straight I am about to lose my mind.
I built this car for its handling, and i don't think i turned the steering wheel in 24 months!
As for my advice for selling your baby.
You got to do what you got to do. Take lots of pictures (OK, lots more) and take solace in the fact that you can always get another one, all those times you said "if I only knew then what I know now". The next one will be even better.
There may be nothing better then your first love, but most of us are happy we didn't marry them!
Best of luck with your decision.
Rob
Rob, I'm a transplant too (Chicagoland to Tennessee), also a little over two years ago. We have virtually year-round driving, except when there is the occasional brief snow, but if we lost a month total of driving for the whole year, that would be very unusual. Also, we have great roads, hills (Tennessee people are sometimes referred to as "ridge runners"), twisties and wonderful scenery. My American Motorcyclist Magazine always has a advertisement for "riding the dragon" which is one long, hilly, twisty two lane highway which runs between Tennessee and North Carolina. Bikes galore are found on this stretch of road and a good drive for a sports car too.
In our village, we have a number of transplants who retired in Florida first and found it to be too hot, too humid and too changeless in terms of scenery; we have four seasons here. If your work took you to Florida, you probably didn't have much choice, but if not, know that there are other options.
Also, you said something about odds of finding someone from New York, where I grew up incidently, in Florida. You meant pretty good, right? Especially in Mi-Yaaaam-eee.
John H.
In our village, we have a number of transplants who retired in Florida first and found it to be too hot, too humid and too changeless in terms of scenery; we have four seasons here. If your work took you to Florida, you probably didn't have much choice, but if not, know that there are other options.
Also, you said something about odds of finding someone from New York, where I grew up incidently, in Florida. You meant pretty good, right? Especially in Mi-Yaaaam-eee.
John H.
Hey Ron.......I'd hate to lose you on this forum, so in light of the poor-weather-for-open-car-touring you have there in the NW Rainforest, why not go the Beck 356 Coupe route?
Closed top, roll-up windows, better heat (or with an ESPAR, GREAT heat!) and all of the same handling and attention-getting characteristics we all know and love about our cars. PLus, it's a little quieter inside, while still growling outside.
Closed top, roll-up windows, better heat (or with an ESPAR, GREAT heat!) and all of the same handling and attention-getting characteristics we all know and love about our cars. PLus, it's a little quieter inside, while still growling outside.
Former Member
Hey John,
You must be talking about deals gap. if memory serves that would be 318 turns in 11 miles? lots of banked curves as well. My buddies and I try to get up there at least once a year. (with bikes, not speedsters) That's how bad we have it, we ride 10 hours just to ride your roads! :-)
I should be up there in september with the bike (hopefully i will have traded the harley for a triumph thunderbird sport by then)
I believe I will be in Nashville in July as well. I am really looking forward to that, haven't been to Nashville yet.
It was work that brought me here, but it's not that bad here, you just have to know where to find the roads.
Rob
You must be talking about deals gap. if memory serves that would be 318 turns in 11 miles? lots of banked curves as well. My buddies and I try to get up there at least once a year. (with bikes, not speedsters) That's how bad we have it, we ride 10 hours just to ride your roads! :-)
I should be up there in september with the bike (hopefully i will have traded the harley for a triumph thunderbird sport by then)
I believe I will be in Nashville in July as well. I am really looking forward to that, haven't been to Nashville yet.
It was work that brought me here, but it's not that bad here, you just have to know where to find the roads.
Rob
Former Member
Wow John, that car looks awesome. When is the ETA? As September rolls closer we should make plans. I would love to see that cabrio runnin' the twisties.
As far as your "old man pace", don't worry, we just like to be able to lean. You don't even have to break the speed limit for that!
I actually love livin' here in st pete, i just like to complain about the roads.
Rob
i am having flashbacks to when my car wasn't finished, and i just couldn't wait to drive it. i hope your wait is almost over.
As far as your "old man pace", don't worry, we just like to be able to lean. You don't even have to break the speed limit for that!
I actually love livin' here in st pete, i just like to complain about the roads.
Rob
i am having flashbacks to when my car wasn't finished, and i just couldn't wait to drive it. i hope your wait is almost over.
Hey Rob, roger that on Deals Gap. I haven't ventured out on the run with my Beeser, probably because I don't trust the Avon Skidmasters. I should do it sometime at an old man's pace. Maybe we can arrange a meeting in September. The Cabrio would love to twist a few.
John H.
BTW, St. Petersburg is nice. My Father-in-Law lived some of his last years there at Sunny Shores, the retirement community where some of the scenes for the movie "Cocoon" were filmed. Dad almost made the cut, but I think Ron Howard thought he was overacting. Knowing him, I suspect that was true.
John H.
BTW, St. Petersburg is nice. My Father-in-Law lived some of his last years there at Sunny Shores, the retirement community where some of the scenes for the movie "Cocoon" were filmed. Dad almost made the cut, but I think Ron Howard thought he was overacting. Knowing him, I suspect that was true.
Ron, I think the car is more desirable as is, but that's just my opinion. Sorry for digressing from the thread. Sometimes (actually most of the time) I just can't control my flying fingers. Best of luck with your sale. It looks like a swell car.
John H.
John H.
Ron,
You would have big withdrawl pains if you sell the car. Why not rent it out but not on the weekends. No, that is a bad idea. Bring it down to the Parts Obsolete show in McMinnville in June. Might get some action on it down there. You would have a solely VW-Porsche audience. The swap meet on Sunday may produce some results. Besides you could hang with us other Replicar people, Like to meet you and say "Howdy."
Bruce
P.S. I agree with John, leave the larger engine in it! B.W.
You would have big withdrawl pains if you sell the car. Why not rent it out but not on the weekends. No, that is a bad idea. Bring it down to the Parts Obsolete show in McMinnville in June. Might get some action on it down there. You would have a solely VW-Porsche audience. The swap meet on Sunday may produce some results. Besides you could hang with us other Replicar people, Like to meet you and say "Howdy."
Bruce
P.S. I agree with John, leave the larger engine in it! B.W.
Ron just needs an excuse to do some more work on his car. Now that it's finished, he's wondering how he's going to fill his spare time. If he pretends to sell it, he can work on it more. I think he should repaint it - that would help it sell better. Or how about changing the exhaust again? No, better to change out the pan completely - that would take all summer.....
Hey, what about swapping everything from the 911 pickup into the speedster, and vice versa? That would be a challenge.
Hey, what about swapping everything from the 911 pickup into the speedster, and vice versa? That would be a challenge.
Actually, that ride for Ron to McMinnville sounds like a super idea.......You could meet some more of the Pacific Coast Crowd, and put a "for sale" sign on your car - with that look and all the goodies you've got in there, it should sell the first day.
Of course, then you have the problem of how to get back up to Canada.......and would they let you back in?
Of course, then you have the problem of how to get back up to Canada.......and would they let you back in?
Former Member
Ron I think it is a great option.....just sell the car if they start to beat you up on the price, your answer is simple....I will come down on the price only if I can switch the engine...I would think this will help if you get an interested buyer who is a little over budget, but anyone else would love to have that engine