Oil Filters / Pumps

I know full flow oil filters are the correct choice but I was wondering if anyone out there knows anything about this? New high flow oil pump and filter.

www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/s-10101/makeId-10000148/p-2159/c-10110/modelId-10001811

Thanks

Troy

Troy, it's better than no filter at all, but not as good as a remote flow-through. One good thing about a remote flow-through is that you can easily add an external oil cooler, should you need the extra cooling. Also, these add-on filter/oil pump combos sometimes interfere with the header/exhaust system. If you want the extra filtration, have a mild motor (ie: 1776) and don't want to have the case drilled, then go for it. Make sure that the pump is decent.
Ron

Troy:

Was just looking through the Gene Berg catalog, and they don't recommend a combination filter/pump due to the loss of required oil flow. These combo pumps actually flow only a portion of the total oil through-put to the filter, as opposed to a full-flow pump/cover combination that blocks off the outlet hole in the pump to force all oil flow out the cover outlet and on to either an external filter or a cooler/filter combination. Having a cover/filter combination "steals" only a portion of the oil flowing through the pump to go to the filter, rather than running all of the oil flow through the filter.

The best set-up, as Ron mentioned, is an external full-flow system with just a filter, or a filter and a cooler, mounted away from the header heat, like over in a wheel well. This full-flow set-up usually requires that the engine case be drilled for the oil return line, and Berg also has a tech sheet that details how this can be done with the engine still in the car, so any competent VW air-cooled shop should be able to do it.

As Ron said, "If you want the extra filtration, have a mild motor (ie: 1776) and don't want to have the case drilled, then go for it." If, however, your engine is built up, or you really want to do this right, then go for a full-flow system.

Thanks guys for the info. The engine is a 1776 and this is just an interim step to better later. I just don't feel comfortable with the basic screen filter. This pump is advertised as a high flow which should help. I'm out of cash after buying the car and need a inexpensive temporary solution.
Troy

Troy, go for it, and then upgrade later on when you can afford it.
Ron

There are two pumps listed and being uneducated I don't know which one to choose. One is described as "High-volume Oil Pump for '71-79 Type I (w/Dish Cam)" and the other is just High-volume Oil Pump. Both are for VWs. Engine is 1776.
Troy

Hello
Anyone out there that can answer my question in the previous post????????

Thanks

Troy

Troy,

Volkswagen used to mount their cams to the the gears with bolts in the earlier cars and changed to rivets for the later cars. (The semi automatics are the exception.) If you have an "built" engine, you no doubt have an aftermarket cam with three bolts and need a pump with internal clearance and a "key" that will engage the slot in the cam.

Ask your engine builder or pump supplier to be sure which pump you should use. We use Melling pumps as they offer both high volume AND high pressure, different things for different needs, we need both. The Gene Berg pump is a great idea as well.

Ask your builder to be sure, or check here:

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Go to the "Speed and Drag Racing" section and post your question/use the search engine. More information than you'll ever need and all of it race proven. These guys are the best in the field today!
Luck,

TC

No engine builder. Just considering adding this to the car. If you look at the options offered there no mention of a key. the question seems to be "dish cam" or not?