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“You hold the door up, Ethel……..
I’m gonna get a runnin’ start to get in!”
Gosh. It’s hard to imagine putting all that effort into one of the ugliest of the 60’s Ferrari prototypes. If they’d have done the 250P they’d really have something.
Great engine, but what a sad interior. Just cheapens the entire build.
Almost all of Ferrari's race cars from that era were beautiful, at least to me, and I've always liked the P4. The interior is stark but probably pretty close to the original - because race car.
@Bob: IM S6 posted:Great engine, but what a sad interior. Just cheapens the entire build.
Not much different than the originals. 
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@dlearl476 posted:Gosh. It’s had to imagine putting all that effort into one of the ugliest of the 60’s Ferrari prototypes. If they’d have done the 250P they’d really have something.
There are some days I wonder if we agree on anything, David. Then I come across something like this and I think - yeah! Why didn't that come to mind right away?
You're right: the P4 does nothing for me, but that 250P makes me weak all over. It's gorgeous.
@dlearl476 posted:Not much different than the originals.
Actually, quite a lot different. This is real, and it looks real.
The other - looks like whatever steering wheel and switches the guy could find.
@Stan Galat posted:There are some days I wonder if we agree on anything, David. Then I come across something like this and I think - yeah! Why didn't that come to mind right away?
You're right: the P4 does nothing for me, but that 250P makes me weak all over. It's gorgeous.
I think my favorite is the 250LM.
@Stan Galat posted:There are some days I wonder if we agree on anything, David. Then I come across something like this and I think - yeah! Why didn't that come to mind right away?
You're right: the P4 does nothing for me, but that 250P makes me weak all over. It's gorgeous.
LOL. I think the rear of the P4 is ruined in the name of aerodynamics. The open hillclimb and Targa Florio versions were better but, imo the 250/275 Spiders were by far the most beautiful Ferraris ever built.
I built a 1/24 Mongram kit of one as a kid, and my opinion hasn’t changed since.
@Bob: IM S6 posted:Actually, quite a lot different. This is real, and it looks real.
The other - looks like whatever steering wheel and switches the guy could find.
Meh. Nothing Alan couldn’t put right in a weekend. Starting with some wrinkle finish paint for the dash.
Imho it's silly, generally, to put together a replica like this and not try to mimic the interior bits as far as possible. The interior is what you, the driver, see and touch constantly when you're in the car. If you care at all about the thing being a replica of something rare and special, it should look and feel as true as your budget can make it.
Having said that...
Some things simply cannot be helped. The P3/4's steering wheel was on the right, way over where a bloody Englishman would have it. Why? I have no idea! But putting it in the right place on one's P4 replica would make the car that much more impossible to drive in modern USA traffic.
The shifter is then to the right of the driver, rather far from the center tunnel. Can't be way over on the passenger side if you put the steering wheel where it's supposed to be for 'murcan road use.
Once that compromise is made, it gets harder to make the case for the correct Maranello-sourced toggle switches and Veglia/Borletti gauges. Would I make that case? I definitely would! But I would not be so judgmental to those who chose differently.
All of the above, by the way, is very similar to the train of thought that has kept me from pursuing a Jaguar C-Type all these years.
Anyway, I think someone just got a screamin' deal on a pretty boffo F-car tribute that looks real cool and goes real fast.
@dlearl476 posted:Meh. Nothing Alan couldn’t put right in a weekend. Starting with some wrinkle finish paint for the dash.
IMHO....Needs a brushed or engine turned aluminum dash panel.
@Alan Merklin posted:IMHO....Needs a brushed or engine turned aluminum dash panel.
Holes. It need holes to lighten the unsprung weight!
@edsnova posted:The P3/4's steering wheel was on the right, way over where a bloody Englishman would have it. Why? I have no idea!
The shifter is then to the right of the driver, rather far from the center tunnel. Can't be way over on the passenger side if you put the steering wheel where it's supposed to be for 'murcan road use.
I’ve heard two explanations. European race tracks run clockwise. Having the driver on the right keeps the driver changes out of traffic (pit lane speed limits are a rather recent innovation) and it offers better visibility for right hand turns.
As for the shifter on the outside, I suppose since LHD road cars had center shifters, it would be hard to learn to shift left handed.
FWIW, Race Car Replicas builds both LHD and RHD GT-40s. Both have right hand shifters.
@dlearl476 posted:FWIW, Race Car Replicas builds both LHD and RHD GT-40s. Both have right hand shifters.
One can only imagine the horrors involved in that shift linkage. 
"Once that compromise is made, it gets harder to make the case for the correct Maranello-sourced toggle switches and Veglia/Borletti gauges. Would I make that case? I definitely would! But I would not be so judgmental to those who chose differently."
Well, I can be. That interior - especially the dash - is downright horrible. With a little work, and some good judgement, it could have been made so much more decent looking.
But that's just me - anything worth doing, is worth doing right.
Nuff said.
@Lane Anderson posted:One can only imagine the horrors involved in that shift linkage.
RCR uses cable shifters.