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Originally Posted by Rich Drewek:

But I don't think that is a 964 Cab.

 

he Porsche 964 is the company's internal name for the Porsche 911 manufactured and sold between 1989 and 1994. Designed by Benjamin Dimson in 1986, it featured significant styling revisions over previous 911 models, most prominently the more integrated bumpers (fenders). It was the first generation 911 to be offered with Porsche's optional Tiptronic automatic transmission and all wheel drive as options.

Type 964 ("nine-sixty-four", or "nine-six-four") is Porsche's internal code name for the 911 Carrera 2 and 911 Carrera 4 models, which were badged simply as "Carrera 2" and "Carrera 4". "964" is used by automotive publications and enthusiasts to distinguish them from other generations of the Carrera.

Carrera 2 and 4

The 964 was considered to be 85% new as compared to its predecessor, the Carrera 3.2. The first 964s available in 1989 were all wheel drive equipped "Carrera 4" models; Porsche added the rear wheel drive Carrera 2 variant to the range in 1990. Both variants were available as a coupe, Targa or Cabriolet. The 964 Carrera was the last generation sold with the traditional removable Targa roof. Later evolutions of the Targa, starting with the 993 generation, replaced that setup with a complex glass-roof "greenhouse" system. A new naturally aspirated engine called the M64 was used for 964 models, with a flat-6 displacement of 3.6 litres. Porsche substantially revised the suspension, replacing the rear torsion bars with coil springs and shock absorbers.[2] Power steering and ABS brakes were added to the 911 for the first time; both were standard. The exterior bumpers and fog lamps became flush into the car, allowing for better aerodynamics. A new electric rear spoiler raised at speeds above 50 mph (80 km/h) and lowered down flush with the rear engine lid at lower speeds or at rest. A revised interior featured standard dual airbags beginning in 1990 for all North American production cars. A new automatic climate control system provided superior heating and cooling. Revised instrumentation housed a large set of warning lights that were tied into the car's central warning system, alerting the driver to a possible problem or malfunction.

 

Originally Posted by GERD:

thank u todd

Welcome.  They are a nice car...and easily obtainable in that price range.  Go up just 5k and you would be really surprised.  They are just a big version of the boxster from that 1999 to 2004 era...cant tell the difference from the front.  all the parts are the same, etc.  with bigger motor...a ton of fun to drive though!

I've driven a few water cooled P-cars and always felt that the Boxster was the most fun to drive due to the great balance/open car factor.  I think one of the best bang for bucks out there is a $13-18K 986 that has had the Raby IMS fix and a few of the other "every 40K mile needs" addressed.  Find one and get a good legit PPI done and your in business without breaking the bank. May be as close to a modern day speedster as you can get.  Gerd, if you must have a real roof, you can find Boxster factory hardtops on craigslist for around a grand.  Gads, another beer and I may go car shopping.  Rick J, let us know what you end up with.

 

Originally Posted by Tom Williams, 2007 JPS Coupe 2006 VS:

I've driven a few water cooled P-cars and always felt that the Boxster was the most fun to drive due to the great balance/open car factor.  I think one of the best bang for bucks out there is a $13-18K 986 that has had the Raby IMS fix and a few of the other "every 40K mile needs" addressed.  Find one and get a good legit PPI done and your in business without breaking the bank. May be as close to a modern day speedster as you can get.  Gerd, if you must have a real roof, you can find Boxster factory hardtops on craigslist for around a grand.  Gads, another beer and I may go car shopping.  Rick J, let us know what you end up with.

 

Best nights sleep I ever had was after my raby IMS install...loved my 986s

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Originally Posted by Frank C.:

Not just the intermediate shaft but something called a D- chunk issue at the top of one of the cylinder walls also....... scary.  I passed on a Boxster as a result.....

Very early ones.  98, 99..they got the D chunk thing under control eventually but yes...that sucks too!

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Not really.  But I am one of those people that if I go in for an oil change, I have them preventative do some other things.  Big scary items are MAF, AOS, coolant tank issues, coil packs crack...waterpump, chain guides and some other things.  Most are wear items.

 

obviously IMS...

 

the boxster is actually fairly easy to work on...but some of these items are beyond me getting to.  These cars actually take 9 quarts of oil too!  If you take care of the car, do the preventative and not wait, these cars will go forever.  All these same issues are the same issues on the 996.  But again, great little cars.  I'd have another!  My first one was an 02, and zero problems.  2nd was an 03.  Sold it 3 months ago and it had 19,000 miles. Only major issue -  I threw a CEL and it was a misfire, so I changed out plugs and coil packs myself, and used my durametric reader to reset codes and never had another issue.  The durametric reader is fantastic to have.  

 

On The Downside, you can't really upgrade performance.  I did a fabspeed exhaust on one and ghl on the other and that was just to get some noise...but other than that...you are pretty much stuck with the HP you get...

 

just an FYI...the kind of sound you can get from a 2.7 liter flat 6.  Ghl exhaust.  Race inspired.

http://youtu.be/tQZDFTQ9FdA

 

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You know, the service you're talking about on your Boxster(s) sounds about the same as what I've had to do on a couple of Ford F-series pickup trucks:  Coil packs (several) and various sensors (one every other year) on my Gas-powered F150, and on the Diesel F250 an injection computer (FICM), EGR valve and several more sensors.  Big difference between gas and diesel power is that each thing on the gas job cost around $600 to fix, while the diesel never got out of the shop for less than $1,100.  I was mixed seeing it go away last week - absolutely the best truck for hauling Pearl on her trailer (you never knew it was back there) but expensive to keep up.  Now I have a Nissan Rogue AWD with all the bells and whistles - more buttons than I can easily handle and the car talks to me!

 

BTW:  Performance adds for the Boxster (actually, just about every later Motronic controlled Porsche) are done by re-chipping the engine computer.  That'll get you very noticeable performance gains, but you'll only be able to run High Test gas.  The best re-mapping software comes from Scott Slauson with his Softronic software upgrade kit.  You can get it through Pelican Parts.  Scott used to be a regular in the TRG garage at the Rolex races when TRG was running Porsches.  Very cool guy and amazingly sharp.  They actually had several, selectable maps that they could choose right from the steering wheel.  I think Wolf Hensler (Porsche Factory Driver) never got off of the "HOT" map 

 

Apparently the Achilles Heal of the Motronic system is the DME relay.  Swap it out every other year and always carry a spare.

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