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Originally Posted by Caretech-IM:

Overpopulation is a myth, and while that ideology continues it has no scientific basis. Unfortunately, few people are able to do enough research to investigate the arguments fully and so choose an opinion not always based on all the information. 

7 billion people certainly seems close to the carrying limit of our little blue rock, and after a trip to a third-word city or refugee camp it'd be pretty hard not to think we're past a tipping point. However, if you'd ask any of those third-world inhabitants if they were "surplus population" (thank you Charles Dickens), I doubt they would agree. I don't either.

 

As far as running out of energy and global warming: both sides are to blame for the mud-slinging contest that has characterized the current debate .

 

On one hand, I'm a conservative guy- but I think it'd be nice if conservatives wanted to (I don't know) actually conserve something besides money. Slashing and burning our way through resources that cannot be replaced doesn't seem very conservative in the true sense of the word.

 

On the other, I grew up in the '70s, when "settled science" told us we were headed into an ice age, we were running out of food, and that we'd be out of oil by 1999. It's hard to not hear a little boy crying wolf now that it's "totally settled" that the world is warming and fossil fuels are to blame. Since the trendy solution involves digging up and depleting rare-earth minerals so that we can produce toxic energy storage vessels (batteries) for power produced, transported, and stored at efficiency levels far below those achieved by just burning something (besides the batteries themselves bursting into flame) at the point of use, it looks a lot like a matter of people believing what they want to believe. The fact that the carbon footprint of producing and operating a new Tesla is far more than just buying a used gas-burner and driving it until it drops is irrelevant.

 

People would be able to see through the ignorance, if they weren't blinded by the hype on both sides. Conservation is a good idea. Intelligent use of resources (without regard for fashion) is as well. An economic system predicated on perpetual growth is not sustainable forever- the world can handle a whole lot more people than we previously thought, but there is a tipping point somewhere. But if we manage resources we have correctly, we'll have enough fossil fuels to take us into the next hundred years. $2.50/gal gas and 475,000 new F150s/ yr forever is probably no more realistic than Teslas saving the planet.

Last edited by Stan Galat

Speaking of holding down your end of the planet, Al and Heidi's house, way out on Cape Cod, must be about 5 feet lower elevation this weekend than last weekend.

 

Why?

 

Because it's the official start of "Summer on Cape Cod" and, as of today, three quarters of the population of New England heads out there to par-tay!  

 

All those extra people weigh down the sand bar.....Someday there'll be too many of them and it'll sink beneath the waves at high tide (it's almost there, now.)

 

Both Al and Heidi are thrilled to see them all come.

 

Even more thrilled to see them all leave.....

 

And you can bet that the first people getting out there, and the last people to leave, will be politicians.

Last edited by Gordon Nichols

Ed, I read through all the rules. It looks like it depends on how fast you are combined with your entry class. It appears that I would need a 4 point attachment, a hoop behind my head with a diagonal, and two forward or rear-facing downtubes. I didn't see anything about door bars or a required windshield bar. Well, except for safety reasons.

 

FYI, my frame has bars that go just under the doorsill, which is about stomach/chest height. Anyway, the future diagonals forward from the hoop can double as "door bars" to bolt-in flanges that are already there.

 

Gordon, you are funny, I bet the Gallos can't wait until Labor Day as well!

Last edited by DannyP

I hope you're right, Danny. But I think you're in the same class as Bill Ascheman (he'll be thrilled with the competition!) and he had to do what he did. I believe the guy who does the tech inspections for the PA Hillclimb Association either designed, or built his bar--or both. Whatever the rule book appears to say, your car has to be approved by that guy in order for you to run the Pagoda, Giant's Despair, etc. 

 

Get with Bill and he'll get you the guy's contact. 

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