Pick up tube measurement

Excuse my ignorance but I'd like to pick your brains on this. I'll be installing a new Gene Berg sump in my car. The instructions tell you to install the pick up tube extension 0.350" up from the gasket surface of the sump bottom for cars using the strainer (which is my case since I'm not as manly as Gord, who installed the full flow system with the engine in the car). I know you can measure it approximately but how do you go about measuring this accurately? Thanks!

I started installing it today and encountered another situation with the pickup tube. Is the pickup extension supposed to just slip over the existing tube without mods or am I supposed to "tweak" it? I'm saying this because the pickup tube in the engine measures 11/16" in diam. which is kind of weird since Berg says that for newer cars it should be either 5/8" or 3/4". I ordered the 5/8" extension with my kit and I'm having a hard time putting it on. As with all their products the extension they send is a hefty piece of tube (respectable gauge) with 4 slots in the top part that I'm guessing will enable it to expand a little to slip over the pickup tube in the case. In my case (pardon the pun) it's a 1/16" difference. Am I supposed to pound those sections to expand the tube or am I stuck with the wrong size? Thanks!

My sump came with three different sized extension tubes. I picked the one that fit over the exsisting tube snuggly and clamped it with the provided hose clamp. I did not have to force it on.

Thanks Terry; how did you measure the exact length to the bottom of the sump?...Also, what's weird is the freakin' diameter of the pickup tube in the car...11/16" for cryin' out loud! Oh, by the way, Terry I got you the dimensions of the Berg sump in the other post...

Ricardo,
I wouldn't worry too much about getting the placement exactly at 11/16". Remember, you're adding an additional 1-1/2 quarts of oil. If your dipstick reads a quart low your still running with plenty of oil.

Ricardo,

If you haven't already worked it out, this is how I did the last couple or so.

First__Be VERY sure that the tube extension that you use is a tight fir on the factory puck-up tube. even though there will be addition oil in the sump and case, you don't want air to be sucked into the pump.

#1__Place a metal rule into the sump and measure the depth from the "floor" to the top of the mounting flange.

#2__measure how far it is between the bottom of the stock pick-up tube to the bottom of the case opening for the original drain plate.

#3__Slide the extension tube onto the stock oil pick-up tube until the length from the bottom of the case (drain plate mounting flange) to the bottom of the extension is your #1 measurement minus your #2 measurement.

Tighten a nice clamp (I use medium stainless injector fuel hose clamps) around the extension sleeve where it slides over the pick-up tube anbd you're all set to go.

Luck,

TC

Thanks TC; sounds logical enough. That's exactly what I did to set the height of the studs at the bottom of the sump (set them up exactly as they're set up in the engine now). Still, though, the Berg instructions say that the distance of the pickup tube to the outside bottom of the sump should be .350" if using the strainer and less if not using it. What about the torque setting to tighten the sump to the engine block? The VW service manual says 5 ft. lbs when intalling just the strainer, cap, etc. but the Berg manual says to tighten firmly.....

Checked with the Berg people and the tech guy told me that around 5 ft lbs. should be enough to hold the sump in place but to make sure I used the green Loctite in the special nuts that hold the sump to the engine case.

Well; finally received the tube from Berg today; JJr and myself installed the sump, hooked up all the hoses and took it out for a drive. We haven't seen oil leaks and it hasn't blown up yet so I guess we nailed it. I need to align the fan better in the housing because it's rubbing somewhere, though. Will get to do that tomorrow.