to obtain the tires I guess you just wish for them.
No obvious direction on how to purchase was mentioned on the FaceBook post
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I drove my car last weekend, it was 32F when I left. Even with a few layers, heated seats, and a Webasto gas heater cranking and the half-tonneau snapped in, it was cold. The gas heater was instrumental keeping the windshield clear, as I installed defroster vents a while ago.
I can't imagine racing in the winter in one of these.
Stud hour tires yourself. That’s what we did in the 1960’s.
and @DannyP, racing a Spyder on ice can’t be much different from racing (or touring) with a snowmobile. Dress for success!
Sno-Mo suit, boots, gloves (with plug-in for glove heaters), ski goggles and helmet and you’re good for 20° below, maybe more. Your Spyder? dunno….
Don’t be a whus….. If my Crazy-A$$ brother could ride his sled from St. Johnsbury, VT to Labrador and back in 40° below weather, you can drive your Webasto-Powered Spyder to Dunkies for coffee when it’s cold. 😉
Umm, no. No and just, no.
Before we were married, Kathy and I used to snowmobile a lot - My entire family was into it and I dragged her along to Vermont with the restivus (She had no clue what she was getting in to, but she loved both it and us).
We had a lot of fun and THAT was in the days before heated gloves!! She learned that a perfect Sno-Mo day was about 20° F (just like skiing) and doing a BBQ cook-out 30 miles out in the woods on the side of a Sno-Mo trail was about as perfect as it could get. Bonus points for a dinner cookout in the dark under the stars and the Milky Way ( which we could still see, back then). I miss those days, but I’m afraid that I might have a heart attack trying to dig/lift a stuck snowmobile out when it gets dug in on the trail. We were still members of VAST (The Vermont Snow Mobile Trail Riders community) up until 2010, when we decided it was time for younger leadership to take over - They’ve done a great job, since!
I’ll have to be content with great memories of days gone by and the occasionally discovered old VCR tape. Come to think of it, we dragged Hot Rod Ron along with us, too, and turned him into a first-class Maple Syrup cooker. His home-made Maple syrup won first class at the 2021 Eastern States Exposition!!
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I can think of at least four reasons why I will never need Pirelli studded ice race tires for a 550 Spyder.
But, in a strange way, it's nice to know that you can get them if you want.
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@Gordon Nichols posted:Stud hour tires yourself. That’s what we did in the 1960’s.
and @DannyP, racing a Spyder on ice can’t be much different from racing (or touring) with a snowmobile. Dress for success!
Sno-Mo suit, boots, gloves (with plug-in for glove heaters), ski goggles and helmet and you’re good for 20° below, maybe more. Your Spyder? dunno….
Don’t be a whus….. If my Crazy-A$$ brother could ride his sled from St. Johnsbury, VT to Labrador and back in 40° below weather, you can drive your Webasto-Powered Spyder to Dunkies for coffee when it’s cold. 😉
Yep. Sometimes you have to dress warm enough.
Met up with the helicopter somewhere up around the 9000' level.
Went for a drive at the end of the season in the PistenBully. Luckily that has a very nice heater.
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Re: Winter and open cars.
I can do it. I have done it. I obtained my motorcycle license on a day when it was 5 F (no helmet). I've spent many, many days and no small number of nights on a flat roof working on a unit I had to shovel my way back to.
I can assure myself of my manhood in some other way. You wanna' ice race your Spyder? Knock yourself out. You do you. I'm going to be over here with a cup of joe, warming myself by the (NG) fireplace. I gave at the office.
A leather pilot cap with ear flaps and a pair of Halcyon goggles, a proper bomber jacket with a zipped-in wool lining over a mock turtleneck, some decent gauntlets, Smartwool socks. Not even a hassle.
I've found the Spyder's heated seats to be more bang for the buck than the actual water-based heater in the TD.
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Turtle neck base layer – check
Fleece sweater - check
Insulated jacket - check
Wool scarf - check
Wool cap and ski gloves - check
Now I'm ready for the mid-forties.
As Stan says, you do you. I've precious few brain cells left. I'm not losing any more to frostbite. Besides, this is sunny California. Pick the right mid-winter day and there's no reason to suffer unnecessary discomfort.
Helpful hint: A fleece blanket kept in the passenger footwell will significantly reduce the number of days per year you end up driving alone.
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Mid forties chicago @Sacto Mitch.
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Just got a new Bean Flannel shirt - The one I replaced was new just before Chris was born.
Chris is now 45 years old....... 
@Stan Galat posted:Re: Winter and open cars.
I can do it. I have done it. I obtained my motorcycle license on a day when it was 5 F (no helmet). I've spent many, many days and no small number of nights on a flat roof working on a unit I had to shovel my way back to.
I can assure myself of my manhood in some other way. You wanna' ice race your Spyder? Knock yourself out. You do you. I'm going to be over here with a cup of joe, warming myself by the (NG) fireplace. I gave at the office.
Exactly. After working outside for 30 years, I don't need to prove anything to anybody.
Also goes along with 45,000 miles of seat time in an open(and occasionally closed) Spyder.
Get back to me after you've accomplished that, and in all those weather conditions encountered. Y'all can suck it.
P.S.: I have all manner of those shirts, some zip and with hoods. What color would you like?
Danny - You could be another "Norm Abrams"!
It could be your trademark look! >>>>"Where's the guy in that fast Formula V?"
"Oh, just look for the guy in the Plaid Flannel Shirt!"
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all you guys leaving out the experience of Booger Popsicles
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@Gordon Nichols posted:Just got a new Bean Flannel shirt - The one I replaced was new just before Chris was born.
Chris is now 45 years old.......
That's gross! 
LOL
@Marty Grzynkowicz posted:That's gross!
Surely you jest. Half my wardrobe is at least 25 years old.
@Stan Galat posted:Surely you jest. Half my wardrobe is at least 25 years old.
Like Marty I am going to sit this one out.
Shoot, I've got a pair of snow mobile boots that are older than Marty!
@Marty Grzynkowicz posted:That's gross!
I'm sure it's been washed once or twice...
Being out in frozen temperatures is comfortable until any air starts to move. Then I'm going inside.
@Gordon Nichols posted:Shoot, I've got a pair of snow mobile boots that are older than Marty!
Probably my favorite line at work at this point is, "son, I've got tee-shirts older than you"
... and it's true.
I just realized that my oldest Carlisle T-shirt is 17 now. 
@Lane Anderson posted:I just realized that my oldest Carlisle T-shirt is 17 now.
See?
My son wears (everywhere) a pigeon-english language tee-shirt advertising soap that I brought back from PNG in 1989 and a red Russian Olympic Team bicycle jersey I got right after the USSR fell.
It's not hard to have really old tee-shirts if they're cool enough.
@Stan Galat posted:Surely you jest. Half my wardrobe is at least 25 years old.
This thread is way off topic.
Please start a new thread and keep this one about unattainable bespoke studded tyres not being worth the trouble of getting out into the cold with, then having to wear boots for all kinds of different vocations, booger popsicles, and clothing that happens to be at least over 25, at most 45 years old that is preferably washed.
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@Lane Anderson posted:I just realized that my oldest Carlisle T-shirt is 17 now.
I’m going through a life purge and the other day when I was going through the wardrobe I have in my storage unit I came across a Steamboat Vintage Races sweatshirt from ‘92 and a couple of Utah Arts Festival t shirts from ‘86 and ‘87. And I’m not even sure those are the oldest ones I have. 
Warmer than riding a motorcycle, or a snowmobile. Not every winter day is 20°.
I refuse to have a storage unit. In my case, I can't reconcile paying for stuff I don't use. Over time the cost of storage exceeds the value of the contents so I am paying for the same thing twice.
I donate stuff and take the write off. If something is truly of value to me, I keep it close where I can use it.
That's just my opinion, not of much value to anyone but me.
@Panhandle Bob posted:I refuse to have a storage unit. In my case, I can't reconcile paying for stuff I don't use. Over time the cost of storage exceeds the value of the contents so I am paying for the same thing twice.
I donate stuff and take the write off. If something is truly of value to me, I keep it close where I can use it.
That's just my opinion, not of much value to anyone but me.
I hear you on storage units, but the vast majority of Americans do not. Everybody has one, all of them justified because "it's only $75/mo." or whatever. It's the same thinking that gets people subscribing to anything, really.
I've become convinced of late that the best possible business investment I might have made 20 years ago would to have built as many storage units as possible. In this part of the world no matter how many are built, there just aren't any vacancies (especially for larger units). I talked to a guy who owns and manages 2000 units. If you figure his monthly rent averages $100, that's $200,000 a month in gross ($2.4M/yr).
The cost of construction is not that high, and the only expense in operation is "house lights" (the units have none), snow removal, and the interest/taxes on the real estate. If a tenant doesn't pay, you're free to put everything out on the driveway - no need to go through the entire eviction process of a rental dwelling.
The underlying asset is never going to depreciate in any real way (I've tried to buy them).
Remember Art Linkletter the actor/comedian? He was one of the very first in California to realize that people had “too much stuff” and had to store the excess somewhere, so he invested heavily in “U-Stor-It” storage places and it made him a TON of money.
I, OTOH, invested in “Blockbuster Video” stores. 🥴
I keep it light and tight (no storage units, if I don't use it it goes). We live a rich life out of 1100 sq ft plus a garage. That's a big change from the drafty old 3 story victorian our kids grew up in. I do this partly because when I go I want to save them from having to sort through a mountain of **** while they're grieving their loss. You really can't take it with you, and someone you love is going to have to deal with whatever crap you leave behind.
My advice is that if you can live without it, then give it away or sell it now. Then leave precise instructions for the stuff that's left.
@JMM (Michael) posted:My advice is that if you can live without it, then give it away or sell it now. Then leave precise instructions for the stuff that's left.
Except for tools. Never, under any circumstances, should a man ever sell or otherwise get rid of tools. You just never know what's around the bend - but I can assure you that you'll need tools to deal with it.
Right @Alan Merklin?
I found a tool the other day and realized I hadn't used it since I had my Flathead Ford Hot Rod. I sold that car in 1980. Just goes to show - Never get rid of tools.
I just found an article from the LA Times inn 1988 about Art Linkletter's storage company and found out he was into a LOT of other businesses as well....
@Stan Galat posted:I hear you on storage units, but the vast majority of Americans do not. Everybody has one, all of them justified because "it's only $75/mo." or whatever. It's the same thinking that gets people subscribing to anything, really.
I've become convinced of late that the best possible business investment I might have made 20 years ago would to have built as many storage units as possible. In this part of the world no matter how many are built, there just aren't any vacancies (especially for larger units). I talked to a guy who owns and manages 2000 units. If you figure his monthly rent averages $100, that's $200,000 a month in gross ($2.4M/yr).
The cost of construction is not that high, and the only expense in operation is "house lights" (the units have none), snow removal, and the interest/taxes on the real estate. If a tenant doesn't pay, you're free to put everything out on the driveway - no need to go through the entire eviction process of a rental dwelling.
The underlying asset is never going to depreciate in any real way (I've tried to buy them).
I built storage sheds(backyard) ALOT of storage sheds...for 30+ years. People would call me out, open their garage and it was full so U couldnt get to house(in ur face full) buy a shed and no payments monthly for rental...they would fill the shed(s) full and call me again..record was 7 sheds 10x20 each...you wouldnt believe what people do in or to these buildings...we even built one in a nudist colony near Sacto. my workers took along time to finish
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@Gordon Nichols posted:....Art Linkletter...was one of the very first in California to realize that people had “too much stuff”...
There were others...
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Yeah, I live in a 800 sq ft apt, and I spent most of the 90s-2016 traveling for work. I’d take a WAG that I spend less on storage units to keep my cars and stuff that doesn’t fit in my apt than most people spend on their mortgages and yard.
Now that I’m planted, stuff I don’t use is going away.
@dlearl476 posted:Yeah, I live in a 800 sq ft apt, and I spent most of the 90s-2016 traveling for work. I’d take a WAG that I spend less on storage units to keep my cars and stuff that doesn’t fit in my apt than most people spend on their mortgages and yard.
Now that I’m planted, stuff I don’t use is going away.
800 sq ft is a nice size shop. I’d have a hard time living like that, I’d need all new hobbies.
"Stuff" is very pertinent to me right now, I'm cleaning the basement. It has 20 years of me plus my grandparent's stuff since 1950.
I've got a dumpster outside, slowly getting full.
Sheds : My home Speedster shop in PA was 14 x 38 with heat and AC . It did the job despite looking gigantic when delivered, I managed to " stuff" it so that I could only get one speedster in there on the scissor lift at a time .