There is a Speedster for sale in my area that I am considering, but the seller (seems to) know nothing about the car, or these cars in general. It is the
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There is a Speedster for sale in my area that I am considering, but the seller (seems to) know nothing about the car, or these cars in general. It is the
Luke, everything you have asked depends on what the seller is asking for in actual dollars...If he wants 10K then it most likely could be a deal, If he is asking 20K, then it most likely isn't such a good deal....post pic's and price, and perhaps we can give you an intellegent responce...
VINCE YOU CANT EVEN SPELL INTELLIGENT RESPONSE
HOW IN THE HELL ARE U GOING TO GIVE ONE
HOW IN THE HELL ARE U GOING TO GIVE ONE
Yep, still a tough crowd . . .
If it's titled as a '93, that makes it 19 years old, not 9. That makes the 812 miles even less likely. The seller is clearly in the dark. The only way to evaluate the car is to get lots of pictures, and then go see it in person, if possible.
Can you post the link here for us to look at? I can't remember which one it was.
Can you post the link here for us to look at? I can't remember which one it was.
Luke, sounds like you're going to the DARK -side... beware of hairy bearded men and little tax people talking in your ears... bottom line get us some photos too. that will help and more data please... bottom line... a clean JPS for 10 large... now that's a deal...
Speedster "D" not in the market...
Speedster "D" not in the market...
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David-
I just bought a bootleg box set of every "Muppet Show" ever made. Remember the two old guys in the box seats? I ain't sayin'... I'm just sayin....
I just bought a bootleg box set of every "Muppet Show" ever made. Remember the two old guys in the box seats? I ain't sayin'... I'm just sayin....
Hey Jerrit, suck my Gerd.....
Luke, something is fishy for sure....looks like a tub with 800 miles on it, wouldn't pay over 20 large for sure since you can buy a new one for slightly more than that, but worth a look and an offer..
Luke, something is fishy for sure....looks like a tub with 800 miles on it, wouldn't pay over 20 large for sure since you can buy a new one for slightly more than that, but worth a look and an offer..
OOPS! forgot to carry the one. 19 it is. Higher math never really was my strong suit
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HEY THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE A JPS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NO RUBBER WEATHER TRIM IN THE DOORS
AND WHAT HE IS TELLING U IT IS ON 73 VW PAN
THE CAR IS NOT 19 YEARS OLD PROBABLY JUST A FEW YEARS OLD THATS WHY THE LOW MILES
ALAN WOULD KNOW FOR SURE IF THAT IS A JPS
WHERE IS DR CLOCK
AND WHAT HE IS TELLING U IT IS ON 73 VW PAN
THE CAR IS NOT 19 YEARS OLD PROBABLY JUST A FEW YEARS OLD THATS WHY THE LOW MILES
ALAN WOULD KNOW FOR SURE IF THAT IS A JPS
WHERE IS DR CLOCK
LUKE MY COUPE IS FOR SELL
Yeah, it looks like a very recent build, doesn't it? But then how does one explain this? (see photos) The VIN numbers match, and neither NY or FLA have DMV's so draconian as to require the VIN# shenanigans routinely required in Californ-eye-ay. Just can't figure it out. Better take a look, but what exactly would I be looking for? Time to call in a "Speedster detective". Any takers?
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Looks to be titled as the year of the pan. I'm with Gerd (can't believe I said THAT) in that it looks like a JPS, although the lack of weather stripping is odd. The seller's ad is VERY odd, as if English is not his first language. I wonder if this is a bogus pirated ad. If not, the seller obviously has no idea what he has. His BIN price is high, too. You could get a new one from John Steele for that.
Luke, go take a look at it, but don't get overwhelmed with the fancy key fobs...
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This ad reads like a Nigerian scam.
I'd go see it & bring a friend in another car. Blacked out windows, standing down the street. Have the seller drive the car with you in the passenger seat. Have your friend follow behind discretely and see how straight the body sits on the pan, look for smoke, etc. Ask your questions and make your observations about the seller and his character while HE's driving.
Go a few miles out and then switch seats--you drive it back & see how it feels.
If he asks you to cash a monster cashier's check as part of the deal, run away.
If he doesn't do that, and gets reasonable on his price (these guys will tell you that number--you know it ain't 30, or even 20) then you might have something there. Make an offer contingent on your VW expert doing his (or her?) 78-point inspection.
I'd go see it & bring a friend in another car. Blacked out windows, standing down the street. Have the seller drive the car with you in the passenger seat. Have your friend follow behind discretely and see how straight the body sits on the pan, look for smoke, etc. Ask your questions and make your observations about the seller and his character while HE's driving.
Go a few miles out and then switch seats--you drive it back & see how it feels.
If he asks you to cash a monster cashier's check as part of the deal, run away.
If he doesn't do that, and gets reasonable on his price (these guys will tell you that number--you know it ain't 30, or even 20) then you might have something there. Make an offer contingent on your VW expert doing his (or her?) 78-point inspection.
As a wise old rabbit once said,
CALL JOHN HE WILL TELL U ITS HISTORY IF HE BUILT IT
Update:
I spoke to John, and sent him what information I had. He said he'd look into it, and see if it's one of his.
I spoke to John, and sent him what information I had. He said he'd look into it, and see if it's one of his.
The guy pulled the listing.
It's a JPS. The dash treatment and door pockets are the tells. It's a desirable color combination, but $20K for a 13 year old JPS (and I'll bet it IS 13 years old) is nuts. I'd never base actual mileage on the odometer reading of one of these cars-- the plastic gears strip any time you press the trip-odometer while the car is moving.
As for the engine-- if he says it's a 1600, I'd bet it's a 1600. He knows what a dual-port is, and that's not on the deck-lid. Dual 2 bbl carbs mean nothing. There was a guy on here a while back trying to make 51.5 IDAs work on a 1776 or some such nonsense. It's an EMPI kit, so somebody didn't want to spring the extra $50 for a CB kit with nice cast AL air-cleaners. I'd assume the worst about the engine, and be pleasantly surprised if it proved otherwise. He took a really nice picture of the alternator.
So... Stan's tough-love here: this is no deal. At $15K, maybe. At $20K, maybe if it's your friend, or if the guy's got every receipt and bit of documentation that has anything to do with the car.
But, to review:
1) You don't even know how old the car is.
2) You don't know for sure how many miles are on it.
3) You have no idea what engine it's got in it.
4) The ad reads like a potential scam.
5) It's a car with minimal options, and those that are there probably take away from the value (A Pioneer stereo?!? Be still my beating heart...)
6) It was at least $10K to expensive.
Run away.
.... unless you already bought it, and you're the reason he pulled the ad. In that case-- well done (!) and welcome to the madness.
It's a JPS. The dash treatment and door pockets are the tells. It's a desirable color combination, but $20K for a 13 year old JPS (and I'll bet it IS 13 years old) is nuts. I'd never base actual mileage on the odometer reading of one of these cars-- the plastic gears strip any time you press the trip-odometer while the car is moving.
As for the engine-- if he says it's a 1600, I'd bet it's a 1600. He knows what a dual-port is, and that's not on the deck-lid. Dual 2 bbl carbs mean nothing. There was a guy on here a while back trying to make 51.5 IDAs work on a 1776 or some such nonsense. It's an EMPI kit, so somebody didn't want to spring the extra $50 for a CB kit with nice cast AL air-cleaners. I'd assume the worst about the engine, and be pleasantly surprised if it proved otherwise. He took a really nice picture of the alternator.
So... Stan's tough-love here: this is no deal. At $15K, maybe. At $20K, maybe if it's your friend, or if the guy's got every receipt and bit of documentation that has anything to do with the car.
But, to review:
1) You don't even know how old the car is.
2) You don't know for sure how many miles are on it.
3) You have no idea what engine it's got in it.
4) The ad reads like a potential scam.
5) It's a car with minimal options, and those that are there probably take away from the value (A Pioneer stereo?!? Be still my beating heart...)
6) It was at least $10K to expensive.
Run away.
.... unless you already bought it, and you're the reason he pulled the ad. In that case-- well done (!) and welcome to the madness.
I did not buy it. Nor would I for anything over $12K, without an awful lot more to go on than I have right now. Even if it is a '73 pan with IRS (maybe?), and test-drove like a spinning top (maybe not?) I'm not going anywhere near this thing until I know more. I was born yesterday, but I stayed up all night studying...
If JPS has -and provides- any record of this car, well, then... maybe. As for the Pioneer stereo, can't you just feel the Journey pumping through those massive 6" speakers down by your ankles? "Don't Stop... Belieeeeeeevin!" (He said, with his tongue -once again- firmly planted in his cheek.)
If JPS has -and provides- any record of this car, well, then... maybe. As for the Pioneer stereo, can't you just feel the Journey pumping through those massive 6" speakers down by your ankles? "Don't Stop... Belieeeeeeevin!" (He said, with his tongue -once again- firmly planted in his cheek.)
It's not the destination, Luke, it's the Journey.
So true Lukie... enjoy the ride my friend... it took me 16 months to pull the trigger here... but when I did I knew what I wanted and these clowns here helped educate me.. They even set me up with a cool nick-name...
Speedster "D" that's ME!
Speedster "D" that's ME!
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The right car will come along. There are plenty of speedsters out there. If there's an event near you, just come to it - car or not. The people are GREAT!
angela