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Wasn't sure exactly where to put this, or if it was even worth talking about, but here goes...

Do you consider your car an around town toy only, not comfortable taking it any further than the ice cream stand or the beach, or is it a driver you'd jump in and do several hundred miles (or across the country) at a moment's notice? I think what you have for a motor has a lot to do with this; is it big enough to slog along the highway for hours (or days!) at a time comfortably, or does something about it (eg- state of tune; is it too high maintenance because of the powerband's too high because of camshaft duration) make it not quite as dependable as you'd like it to be?

 

I guess what I'm looking for is a short description of the motor (size, how high it revs), what you think of your gearing and how far you'd drive it.  Al 

"older Intermeccanica Speedster (still under wraps in the garage) a pic wouldn't show much,what with all the junk piled on it..."



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I have owned my new VS for about 5 months now.  My last VS (1600cc 3:88 gears, very basic) was a pain the but and I would never drive it far just in case.  a lot of carb issues, etc.  It had the fuel filter in the engine bay which made me nervous (yes I am aware I could move it but didnt as I was planning on buying and selling pretty quick). 

 

My new VS is still what I would call in a sorting phase.  I have put 1400 miles on it so far and the longest trip I made was about 25 miles in one shot.  On the hwy, doing 70MPH, and it rode very well.  but - I am still sorting issues with it running to lean, to rich, to this, to that, etc.  I am still playing with the idle jets and trying to figure it out.  I use my car everyday to go do something silly like grab a cigar so I can come home and clean my car and enjoy a cigar while doing so, and probably dont go more than 20 miles round trip at a time... 

 

Would I - yes, I probably would be comfortable doing a couple hundred miles in a day. 

 

My current set up is:

 

1915CC Motor

110 Engle Cam

3:88 gears (revs very quickly in first gear - drives great in 3rd and 4th with great pick up around 3000 plus rpms - sounds great in this range too.)

A1 Sidewinder exhaust with race bullet muffler (very race sounding)

Oil Cooler and external oil filter - kicks on around 180 degrees or so

 

What I would need to be really comfortable driving:

 

Getting my Anti-sway bar installed

Getting my camber compensator installed

Getting my carbs dialed in 100% with proper jetting, no popping, no backfiring, etc.

Just flat out - more miles on the car to complete sorting issues.

 

 

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Ask John Hallstrand who drove his SAS Cabriolet from Tennessee to California and back.  Ask Nolan Scott who drove his SAS Cabriolet from Florida to Carlisle, PA and back numerous times. I just drove from Rhode Island to Carlisle and back with my SAS Cabriolet.  Many people have driven many miles in these cars.  It can be done.  It's no big deal.

As you may have read in another thread, I took delivery of my brand new Beck with a Jake Raby 2.5 L Suby engine at Carlisle.  Carey Hines handed me the keys with the car having only 43 miles on it.  That Friday and Saturday we drove it over 160 miles through some very twisty roads and hills around around Carlisle Pennsylvania.  The car and engine behaved superbly. On the highway we took it up 80 MPH and never felt like we were pushing the engine.  Carey took the car back to his shop to finalize some small issues.   Being a new car, she settled down a bit into her suspension and needed another tweak in the alignment.  The new exhaust system also needed some tweaking as she did backfire a bit. The only major issue was the air-conditioning ( a requirement from my boss...Jami) which needed to be hooked up and well tested to endure the Florida heat.  I expect the car to arrive in Florida late next week.  If Carlisle is any indication, I fully expect the car to be low maintenance...ready to be jumped in and driven anytime....and could be a daily driver if that is what I wanted it for.   Obviously I'm very happy about it and hope no one takes offense to my being a bit bias  

 

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My car had final assembly done at the '06 Carlisle show, and has been driven (not trailered) back there from Charleston, SC (~750 miles one way) every year since then.  It has never left me stranded, and now has over 60,000 km (37,200 mi) on it.  I have driven it to the NC mountains almost every year as well.  With a 1915cc T1 VW engine it is not as refined as the SAS cars or TRahn's new SubiBeck, but it has certainly been reliable.

2,110 VW with 044 MOFOCO heads, Engle 120 cam, Rancho Pro Street with a 3:88 Diff, Dell 40's with mainfolds match-ported to the heads, external filter and fan-assisted oil cooler, 205 tires all around.  Tranny gearing (other than the 3:88 diff) is stock mid-ratios for a VW sedan with a .89 4'th (wish the 3-4 split was a bit less, but....)

 

I wouldn't hesitate to jump in at any time and go where ever.  It will keep up with anything all day long and sits at 200°F on the highway at 90+° ambient.  Having said that, it's a very good thing the measily gas tank limits you to only three hour runs because that's about all I can take at a whack with the noise and wind buffeting.  I built it and I took my time to make sure it was right and used the best parts I could find in the mid-1990's, so I totally expect this engine to see 100,000+ miles before rebuild.  The one failure I have had was a broken rocker arm shaft at my son's wedding.  The old shafts were hollow, the new ones are solid and trouble-free.  The longest I've driven it at one time was an all-day chase through southern Vermont and NH (I live in southern Massachusetts) trying to find two bicycling friends on the back roads.  Massive headache and sunburn at the end of the day 

 

Addendum:  When I first got onto this site, almost no one was driving their car any reasonable distance.  Then, Jim Ward went mid-west to west coast and that "started a movement" because others saw this and thought; "Hey!  I could do that, too!"  Then Hoss made a similar trip from a greater distance and a few more were stretching out the miles and with no major disasters, more and more people started doing greater distances, like Jack Crosby and Dave Stroud.  Remember the old VW Beetles and how rugged and reliable they were?  Well, guess what.......a lot of us are driving old VW Beetles with plastic bodies.  Get out there and "Just do it!"

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I know just giving everyone a hard time.  I am sure my car will be enjoyed for many many years and many many miles!  The motor seems strong and seems to be breaking in nicely!  

 

If everyone reads my post again...I said the only things I need are to make sure the car is tuned, and I get those sway bars installed.  I am hoping to drive this car many many many miles!  

2005 Vintage Speedster I bought used in Reno and drove 1000 miles over mountain passes (in sleet!) to Northwestern Montana.  I'm kinda stupid sometimes.

It's a 1915 cc according to writing on the front of the fan shroud.  Probably by Roland Rascon based on the skull on top of the engine block that you can only see when the shroud's removed. 

The dealer I bought it from 2 1/2 years ago said it has a freeway flier transmission.  There are a lot of roads  with 70 mph speed limits where I live and the engine runs at around 3200 RPMs at that speed.  However, it takes about another 1000 RPM to hold 80.  It can go faster than that but I don't make a habit of it. 

It had around 7k on it when I got it and I've more than doubled that.  I do my own fluid changes, valve, ignition, and carburetor (kadron) adjustments but I'm a novice to these things and I guess time will tell if my maintenance has been o.k. or I have incrementally screwed the pooch.

Looking forward to a 900 mile round trip up the icefields parkway to Jasper, Alberta, this summer!     

 

 

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Going to the Sun RoadGoing to the SunInvitation to speedCraters of the Moon Nov. 12 2010

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FWIW - In our '95 VS, been all over the West Coast...

 

Cambria Feb 07 2_2

 

 

...Utah (Arches National Park)...

Sunset cruise through Arches National Park UT

 

 

...Colorado Rocky Mountains (13,000ft+ elevation)...

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 ...photo-bombed a few weddings with GERD...

SOC Photo-bomb

 

 

...and Troy...

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...and still going strong on 86,000 relatively trouble-free miles with our 1835cc/dual Kadron/1.25 rockers/A-1 sidewinder!

 

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Yes, just ask me.  Actually, Jim Ward invited me to join him on his trip west in 2003 and I reluctantly passed.  I read the laundry list of items that he went through to get his (VS) car ready and decided it was too much for me to tackle.  I believe he wrote that he had even replaced some wheel bearings.  He had previously experienced an engine failure due to a ruined camshaft in the original engine and had to have it rebuilt.  I concluded that this was too big a risk with the car I had. 


So I decided to have a car built by SAS that I ordered in January of 2004 after selling my VS to a woman in Malibu.  The Red Man arrived too late for Carlisle 2004 but I made the left coast run in April of 2005 and then a run to Carlisle in May.  Carlisle has been a yearly event ever since.  I also made a run to Watkins Glen in 2006. 


Needless to say I feel quite confident that the car can go anywhere, anytime.  It is relatively low maintenance and lots of fun.  It is currently the only SAS car in existence with the EJ22 engine.  Works fine!

The "Red Man" at Watkins Glen:

 

http://www.theta.net/nichols/s...nsglen/target86.html


I guess he was just visiting the relatives:


http://www.theta.net/nichols/s...sglen/target150.html


That was a GREAT weekend, wasn't it, John?  You could do the same at Lime Rock in Connecticut over labor day, you know (hint, hint).


gn


(and now back to our "Power and Reliability" thread)

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I put that 2666cc Type 4 Raby built (2001) engine into my Beck last year after my original build 1911cc Type 4 seemed a little anemic to me. A custom geared Rancho Performance transmission was added with the Rhino case for strength plus a heavy duty copper-faced clutch. CSP shifter. 4- corner discs. The all new Bilstein shocks are a little stiff on bumpy city streets, but I'm somewhat spoiled living out in the boondocks and not traveling into the city much. It sports a Tangerine Racing exhaust which produces the note you can hear fairly well in the following videos. I've decided to treat it with care, not mashing and bashing it every time I drive it, I'd like it to last for awhile. If I were my own mechanic I might abuse it more. Regardless, it certainly has the torque for around town (the occasional puttin' around at 2,000 rpm's in third doesn't seem to phase it) and cruises quite comfortably on the highway doing 65-75 (in the near 3,500 range). Beyond those speeds, it gets a little squirrely and I feel that's about as fast as I dare to take it. Here's a recent video of some of its potential, a slight rolling start and not really slamming it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...a04bia8w&index=4

Cruising around at moderate speeds is a pleasure with no fear of detonation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...a04bia8w&index=7

Ancient BCW MG replica here. The engine is a '66 1300 CC which was embiggened at about 100,000 miles to 1500. That was about 150,000 miles ago. Single Solex, Pertronix. No header.

 

She cruises fine at 70 mph and does 75+ if there's a need (and no hill). I've gone as far as VA Beach & back and would gladly head to CT with her if I-95 wasn't such a joyous passage between here and there. 

 

Old Bug with fiberglass body. It'll go anywhere as long as there's gas in the tank, oil in the crank case, a "Phase 1" tool kit in the trunk and a AAA card in the wallet.

Al, when I get my IM back I plan on making short trips this summer to make sure everything is working as it should.  i.e. Chilliwack to Princeton.

My wife and I are both retiring this June and we plan on taking a long cruise in the IM this September.  We're looking at somewhere around 4,000 km (2500 miles) round trip.  If the IM is not running perfectly it will stay in the garage and we'll take the Westy.

I want my IM to be a highway cruiser.  I seldom drive the car around town.  I hate parking it in shopping malls and with two in the vehicle purchases have to be kept to a minimum.   I'd rather take my old Ranger.

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I'd take our Speedster on any long trip if the entire car is totally prepared. Older IM with a junkyard Soob 2.2 litre. It was not totally prepared on time this year for Carlisle and I paid the price. We've done about 34,000 miles in the last 2 1/2 years.

A Pictures by beezered1 - Photobucket We'll likely take a mega trip with it next year. Ottawa Canada to Carlisle via Deadwood, SD down to NM and Texas via some Route 66 then East.

After several "special" cars and motorcycles, I vowed to my wife that I wouldn't make this one a garage queen. It's a hard promise to keep, but I've done my best. So has everybody else.

 

The transport driver closed the seatbelt buckle in the drivers side door about 3 times during the trip from BC to IL, and I had the car a week when my son put a very noticeable 2" long scratch in a spot right where the eye falls in the back. I've had the engine in and out every year since I bought the car, and there are the usual warts as a result.

 

I've got about 17.5K mi in 8 years. I've had just about every possible permutation of Type 1 and 4 speed transaxle somewhere along the way.

 

Originally, I had no intent to use the car for anything but summer "date night" or an after-work 20 minute vacation. I had a couple of Mexi-crate 1776s, a 2110, and finally a 2332 short-rod monster. Lord Acton said, "power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely". The 2332 was a step backward in usability, but MAN was it fun. I dry-sumped it last year. I'd do that again.

 

My transaxles have run the range from stock "freeway fliers" (.89/3.88) to a .82/3.88, back to a .89/3.88 with a longer first and second (nearly perfect for trips of less than 500 mi). I've got a ZF LSD in the car, and everything built to 99/100. I've got more in my VW 4-speed than I care to admit.

 

Last fall, I drove the car to CA, and changed my definition of a "perfect" speedster. I had more fun that 100 "date-night" cruises, and comparing a legit-2 week vacation to a 20 min bomb-around after work is like comparing a ribeye to a McDouble-- I can enjoy the McDouble, but it's a poor substitute.

 

My current configuration is what I hope to be the final solution, but I'm worried about a couple of things. It's a 2276 with a cam that is basically an FK8 ground on closer lobe-centers. I'm back to iron cylinders and Mahle pistons, but they are coated and I've got 911 oil squirters to cool the piston crowns. I'm worried that I might have gone too far on the narrow lobe centers of the cam, and perhaps have the deck a bit too wide (.075), and the static compression a bit too high (9.6:1). I wonder if I should've stepped back even more and gone with tick-wall 92s and run a tighter deck and lower compression. I wonder if I should've just done a straight-up FK8 on 108 lobe centers.

 

I'm STILL on jack-stands, waiting on McMaster/Carr for the final bits of "special" (you know-- 1/2 AL hexbar to make my own linkage. CB's is 2 lbs heavier than it needs to be), but I hope to be running this weekend.

 

For me (and me alone), I still believe that an air-cooled mill is the essence of a speedster, and I still think (against all evidence) the Type 1 can come close to being all things to all people. I went a bridge too far last go-around (with the 2332), and I've stepped back this time. I may step back further in the future. If I were starting with a clean slate, I'd run a Type 4 with 95s, a mildish cam, and some Tangerine Racing tri-Y headers, and drive it 75K mi before it needed anything major. I'd still have to mess with the carbs, and the timing, and the what-nots, but I like that. I might even dry-sump it.

 

If I came home to a pile of money every night-- rather than swim in it, I'd give a bunch to Henry and have a IM6 built with an SC 911 3.0 with the updates and a set of PMOs.

 

If I knew nothing about cars, and just wanted to get-in-and-drive and have a shop do the work, I'd get a Subaru flat-4. It's probably a better solution anyhow.

 

Forewarned is forearmed. Your mileage may vary.

My wife has told me, very clearly, that she will only ride in the IM if it's reliable and doesn't overheat.

When I originally bought the car and installed a mild 1776, I wouldn't hesitate to hop in the car on a long weekend and go for a 300 mile cruise.

I want to be able to do that again.  If I can't I'll put her up for sale and move on.

Originally Posted by Ron O, 1984/2010 IM, B.C. Canada:

My wife has told me, very clearly, that she will only ride in the IM if it's reliable and doesn't overheat.

When I originally bought the car and installed a mild 1776, I wouldn't hesitate to hop in the car on a long weekend and go for a 300 mile cruise.

I want to be able to do that again.  If I can't I'll put her up for sale and move on.

Ron, I'm shocked!

How much for the wife?

Mine is an older "83 IM with a 1600 with twin solex carbs. Bought it in San Diego a few years ago and drove it to Canada. Up the Pacific Coast and then across Nevada when the locals were complaining about the heat.

I must have crossed the Rockies about 8 times. Rarely a problem. Fan belt: $8. Light switch:$14. 30 mpg,Canadian.

Its a VW Beetle with a fibreglass shell and its reliable and sexy as hell. Could not stop anywhere in California without making friends. I am a Luddite and like to keep it simple. Simple works.

 

Would really like to cross the Rockies this summer and attend the IM BBQ and tour.

 

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