Check this car for sale on eBay.
Great build specs and details.
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IMHO well worth the Buy-it-Now price.
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Check this car for sale on eBay.
Great build specs and details.
110089399192
IMHO well worth the Buy-it-Now price.
Great build specs and details.
110089399192
IMHO well worth the Buy-it-Now price.
A lovely car. This snippet turns me off a bit.
"I would prefer to sell this car to a fellow Californian if possible. It would be a shame for it to be registered in another state and lose its SB100 status in CA."
If the money is green who cares where it goes. If you want it to stay in CA, then keep it.
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"I would prefer to sell this car to a fellow Californian if possible. It would be a shame for it to be registered in another state and lose its SB100 status in CA."
If the money is green who cares where it goes. If you want it to stay in CA, then keep it.
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I can relate to the SB100 status. Its a tought time getting that status. Once you get one you feel like you beat the system.
I don't think there was any snubbing or snobbery intended with that snippet. Facts is facts; California is still a car-guy state but the State of California is a pain-in-the-ass car bureaucracy.
Having a piece of paper that takes the CA DMV and money-grubbing politicians, waving a very transparent green flag, out of your favorite hobby is, as they say, PRICELESS (except it does cost money to obtain, and you have to jump through all sorts of hoops held by disinterested clueless state employees and there are only 500 to be had each year!)
No, that's a sales point. If those little SB100s were transferable, I'd try and buy that for my future build, but then that would cut the DMV out of the profit loop and they can't have that. Bastardzzz!!!
Having a piece of paper that takes the CA DMV and money-grubbing politicians, waving a very transparent green flag, out of your favorite hobby is, as they say, PRICELESS (except it does cost money to obtain, and you have to jump through all sorts of hoops held by disinterested clueless state employees and there are only 500 to be had each year!)
No, that's a sales point. If those little SB100s were transferable, I'd try and buy that for my future build, but then that would cut the DMV out of the profit loop and they can't have that. Bastardzzz!!!
Paul - I think you meant to say "RAT BASTARDZZZ!!"
Is this Bill Steele's car?
Yes, it's Bill's car... and yes, I was painfully remiss in my earlier rant about the 'Rat Bastardzzz!'
I know Bill's car pretty well. I can tell you that is in perfect condition in every respect, there is NO exaggeration in his description. It is a truly fine car. To paraphrase the late Warren Zevon, "his paint is perfect".
The SB-100 for a California buyer is a big plus that makes registration a "simple" process.
The SB-100 for a California buyer is a big plus that makes registration a "simple" process.
Hey Luke, Have you ever registered a car in California? Any car?
Well put, Dale.
I see the bidding on Bill's car took a giant leap...
I see the bidding on Bill's car took a giant leap...
the SB 100 cert of sequence today is worth a TON. good luck getting one of the only 500 DMV issues every year. I got mine on the first day and by 11 am they were all gone.
The pictures don't even come close to doing that jewel justice. I have been lucky enough to see it in person too.
The pictures don't even come close to doing that jewel justice. I have been lucky enough to see it in person too.
Hey Joel, I haven't ever registered a car in California, but what are you really trying to say? I'm just plain confused by your post to Luke.
I believe Luke's post was about the owner shouldn't care where the car goes as long as they pay for it, not about the process of registering a car in California so his knowledge or lack of experience with registering a car in California is pretty much irrelevant.
Would you like me to email you????
I believe Luke's post was about the owner shouldn't care where the car goes as long as they pay for it, not about the process of registering a car in California so his knowledge or lack of experience with registering a car in California is pretty much irrelevant.
Would you like me to email you????
C'mon Steve, chill.
I read the continuing thread I started and I initially posted it in hopes that potential buyers would look at the list of features and see the difference between replica offerings.
An 'issue' came up about the uncertainty or purpose of the seller's wording with regard to where the car eventually goes because of the way it has been registered, which is flawlessly and almost immune to future DMV bureaucratic bullshit. If CA allowed the transfer of SB100 reg cards, you'd really see some furious bidding on eBay!
A lot of us in California have to live the DMV nightmare year in and year out with our 'special' cars. We never know what thinnly-disguised, pseudo eco-crap legislation will impact us next. There is more than a fair amount of frustration being an auto-enthusiast here.
Joel is spot on. Until you have driven a few miles on our over-crowded freeways, chipped a tooth on one of our pot-hole infested city streets or had your sanity challenged by some semi-comatose numbskull sitting on the other side of a DMV counter, you can't know the value of an SB100!
It is one less hurdle to being a California car enthusiast. Now Bill MAY be a white wine swilling 49er fan from SF, where men are men and boys are scared, but Luke's concern missed the point as does yours.
Is your runway snowbound?
I read the continuing thread I started and I initially posted it in hopes that potential buyers would look at the list of features and see the difference between replica offerings.
An 'issue' came up about the uncertainty or purpose of the seller's wording with regard to where the car eventually goes because of the way it has been registered, which is flawlessly and almost immune to future DMV bureaucratic bullshit. If CA allowed the transfer of SB100 reg cards, you'd really see some furious bidding on eBay!
A lot of us in California have to live the DMV nightmare year in and year out with our 'special' cars. We never know what thinnly-disguised, pseudo eco-crap legislation will impact us next. There is more than a fair amount of frustration being an auto-enthusiast here.
Joel is spot on. Until you have driven a few miles on our over-crowded freeways, chipped a tooth on one of our pot-hole infested city streets or had your sanity challenged by some semi-comatose numbskull sitting on the other side of a DMV counter, you can't know the value of an SB100!
It is one less hurdle to being a California car enthusiast. Now Bill MAY be a white wine swilling 49er fan from SF, where men are men and boys are scared, but Luke's concern missed the point as does yours.
Is your runway snowbound?
I understand his point and I'm sorry that you folks in sunny CA have it so bad.....especially you car enthusiasts.
Just reread this part...."I would prefer to sell this car to a fellow Californian if possible".
That's the part I thought sounded a little off and it's that kind of thing that still makes a large part of our country wish that California would secede from the Union.
Texas is also free to leave.
That's all said tongue-in-cheek before anybody goes and has an aneurysm.
Maybe.
Just reread this part...."I would prefer to sell this car to a fellow Californian if possible".
That's the part I thought sounded a little off and it's that kind of thing that still makes a large part of our country wish that California would secede from the Union.
Texas is also free to leave.
That's all said tongue-in-cheek before anybody goes and has an aneurysm.
Maybe.
Pass the cheez, understood!
Paul, now I'm confused. The SB100 thing is worth a lot, but it is not transferable? Is that what your saying?
And I'm extremely chilled. You read too much into my post. I was only pointing out that to some people such as myself, the point of Luke's post wasn't to argue about the validity or value of anything, just that the owner shouldn't care where the car goes.
He instead takes your thread a different direction completely and when I call him on it, you tell me to chill, and say nothing to him.
That kind of logic means so much to me. NOT
And I'm extremely chilled. You read too much into my post. I was only pointing out that to some people such as myself, the point of Luke's post wasn't to argue about the validity or value of anything, just that the owner shouldn't care where the car goes.
He instead takes your thread a different direction completely and when I call him on it, you tell me to chill, and say nothing to him.
That kind of logic means so much to me. NOT
Joel may be "spot on", but I for one wouldn't trust anything Joel say's or his intentions behind what he does say.
Heck he once posted that I have never driven a VW powered speedster, never owned one, and have zero experience with one.
Of course you all came running right in to tell him to "chill" right?
Now back to the car, it is exceptional, and it would be a great buy for someone wanting a car without all of the frustrating wait.
Heck he once posted that I have never driven a VW powered speedster, never owned one, and have zero experience with one.
Of course you all came running right in to tell him to "chill" right?
Now back to the car, it is exceptional, and it would be a great buy for someone wanting a car without all of the frustrating wait.
Looks like someone bought it before the auction ended. Beautiful car. I should have hit buy it now.
Bill emailed me and said a non-computer-literate dude in Texas got his son to do the requisite moves and the car went for the BIN price. Great value, good vibes. Now if the guy just had a friend that wanted a wild-child ride 8-/
Luke,
What a coincidence, you "texas can leave too" comment. Bill sold his car to a gentleman from TEXAS!
The car will be stored for a while in Vacaville (cowtown) CA until the gentleman can drive it to Montana.
And a bit of clarification: The SB100 registration stays with the car as long as it is registered in CA. Had the buyer lived in California, he could have registered the Roadster using the SB100 advantages. An SB100 registration means little to those out of state, but to someone living in CA, it can make the registration of a special construction vehicle easy and legal.
I have no idea if an SB100 car can be registered out of state and then be returned at a later time and then register using SB100.
What a coincidence, you "texas can leave too" comment. Bill sold his car to a gentleman from TEXAS!
The car will be stored for a while in Vacaville (cowtown) CA until the gentleman can drive it to Montana.
And a bit of clarification: The SB100 registration stays with the car as long as it is registered in CA. Had the buyer lived in California, he could have registered the Roadster using the SB100 advantages. An SB100 registration means little to those out of state, but to someone living in CA, it can make the registration of a special construction vehicle easy and legal.
I have no idea if an SB100 car can be registered out of state and then be returned at a later time and then register using SB100.
If, say, a Speedster is being shipped to and registered in, oh, Texas let's say. Just speculating here, nothing to do with reality or anything.
And it easy to register a Speedster in Texas as a "constructed vehicle" using the original VIN located on the VW pan or affixed to the tube frame, perhaps. Or something along these lines, at least.
Could the The SB100 registration plaque or plate or whatever, be carefully removed (or even that body section that it's attached to) and then artfully re-placed (or grafted onto) another Speedster?
The first Speedster then happily on it's way to Texas with it's original VW or manufacturers VIN, and the second Speedster staying in California for all the world masquerading as the other car. With the SB100 graft or re-placement so perfectly done as to fool everyone who looked.
As far as the officials are concerned, the Speedster was never sold or shipped. Nobody was notified and there's still a Speedster in the driveway with a current SB100 registration in place.
A win-win for both owners and a big ol' FU%K YOU for the Rail Road as Jesse and Frank James would say . . .
I mean, just speculating. Is this possible?
And it easy to register a Speedster in Texas as a "constructed vehicle" using the original VIN located on the VW pan or affixed to the tube frame, perhaps. Or something along these lines, at least.
Could the The SB100 registration plaque or plate or whatever, be carefully removed (or even that body section that it's attached to) and then artfully re-placed (or grafted onto) another Speedster?
The first Speedster then happily on it's way to Texas with it's original VW or manufacturers VIN, and the second Speedster staying in California for all the world masquerading as the other car. With the SB100 graft or re-placement so perfectly done as to fool everyone who looked.
As far as the officials are concerned, the Speedster was never sold or shipped. Nobody was notified and there's still a Speedster in the driveway with a current SB100 registration in place.
A win-win for both owners and a big ol' FU%K YOU for the Rail Road as Jesse and Frank James would say . . .
I mean, just speculating. Is this possible?
I guess anything is possible. The SB100 sticker is supposed to be placed on a non-removable part of the body. Mine is on the rear door jamb, not on the door. The sticker itself is a foil mylar backed with a very aggressive adhesive. I believe that attempting removal of the sticker would destroy it, especially after a prolonged dwell time.
You also have to consider the "what if I get caught" scenerio. I really don't think that the States Attorney General would be smiling when he said "you done wrong". The state is not very tolerant with this type of crime.
Having received a letter for fraudulant registration from this state, I will advise "you" to not do it.
Man up and register the car legally.
You also have to consider the "what if I get caught" scenerio. I really don't think that the States Attorney General would be smiling when he said "you done wrong". The state is not very tolerant with this type of crime.
Having received a letter for fraudulant registration from this state, I will advise "you" to not do it.
Man up and register the car legally.
"The SB100 sticker is supposed to be placed on a non-removable part of the body. Mine is on the rear door jamb, not on the door."
So a cardboard template, a marker, a dremel or wizzer with a cut-off wheel. Followed by a little gel fiberglass and mat, some lightweight filler, sandpaper and paint . . . . and one door jam is easily switched for another.
Unless an official was in the garage beside you, the cut and swap would be undetectable and nobody would question it. Not on either car.
The Speedster goes to Texas and the exemption stays in California. Three years later when the exempted Speedster is sold, the formerly new paint has aged, the stress cracks are everywhere and the switch looks like is has never happened and the next buyer (from California) is happy to pay the increase in price to get a car that won't fall under emissions. Should anything severe happen to the patched area, everyone just figures that the car was damaged during manufacture, build-up or accident and nicely repaired.
'Cause, honestly . . . a guy would have to be Evil or just crazy to do an SB100 switch and think that he wouldn't be caught. It MUST have been a previous repair . . .
Interesting . . . .
So a cardboard template, a marker, a dremel or wizzer with a cut-off wheel. Followed by a little gel fiberglass and mat, some lightweight filler, sandpaper and paint . . . . and one door jam is easily switched for another.
Unless an official was in the garage beside you, the cut and swap would be undetectable and nobody would question it. Not on either car.
The Speedster goes to Texas and the exemption stays in California. Three years later when the exempted Speedster is sold, the formerly new paint has aged, the stress cracks are everywhere and the switch looks like is has never happened and the next buyer (from California) is happy to pay the increase in price to get a car that won't fall under emissions. Should anything severe happen to the patched area, everyone just figures that the car was damaged during manufacture, build-up or accident and nicely repaired.
'Cause, honestly . . . a guy would have to be Evil or just crazy to do an SB100 switch and think that he wouldn't be caught. It MUST have been a previous repair . . .
Interesting . . . .
My head hurts just thinking about this scenario.
How's about I send you a cashier's checque made out for $100K, all you have to do is send me your bank account info and home address.
I'll then send my agent around to collect your car, the piece sawn out of the previous car mentioned and pick up the balance of my checque.
My family (currently exiled in Cowtown, CA) will thank you as they will then be able to come out of hiding for the first time since something called the Onion Festival...
How's about I send you a cashier's checque made out for $100K, all you have to do is send me your bank account info and home address.
I'll then send my agent around to collect your car, the piece sawn out of the previous car mentioned and pick up the balance of my checque.
My family (currently exiled in Cowtown, CA) will thank you as they will then be able to come out of hiding for the first time since something called the Onion Festival...
Steve, seek help.
Luke, Texas is a state of mind ;-)
Luke, Texas is a state of mind ;-)
Jimbo -
Aren't you SUPPOSED to be resting and recuperating? If so, then slowly put down the can of 'whup-ass' and follow your doctor's orders - there'll be plenty of opportunities down the road to open that can.
Hope you're back to 100% and behind the wheel of your Speedy real soon (if you're not already terrorizing the Oklahoma highways)!
Peace - Out!
Aren't you SUPPOSED to be resting and recuperating? If so, then slowly put down the can of 'whup-ass' and follow your doctor's orders - there'll be plenty of opportunities down the road to open that can.
Hope you're back to 100% and behind the wheel of your Speedy real soon (if you're not already terrorizing the Oklahoma highways)!
Peace - Out!
Jim, I don't really need any help, in Iowa, we don't have any emissions testing. Oh and the irony is that my car is emissions compliant.
Does anyone know where I put that thread on "will A/C in a VW aircooled car work in stop and go traffic in florida?"
In that thread I responded to someone by questioning how much experience they had, in that, or any hot territory. Boy did I get it with both barrels. Now who was in on that....irony at its best. So if my post indicates to you that I should "seek help". What should someone who responded to the same type of question without even giving them the benefit of the doubt be doing? Hey at least I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
When you point your finger, at least three are pointed right back at you.
Does anyone know where I put that thread on "will A/C in a VW aircooled car work in stop and go traffic in florida?"
In that thread I responded to someone by questioning how much experience they had, in that, or any hot territory. Boy did I get it with both barrels. Now who was in on that....irony at its best. So if my post indicates to you that I should "seek help". What should someone who responded to the same type of question without even giving them the benefit of the doubt be doing? Hey at least I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
When you point your finger, at least three are pointed right back at you.
Hey Jim really happy to hear you back and feeling strong.
I wish you well my friend
Troy
I wish you well my friend
Troy
Amazing, Simply amazing.
Thanks Troy. Wish I could be out west this Spring to see you all.
No offense friends, all of you, but what does the last few posts have to do with Paul's original post??? That is a beautiful Speedster indeed, maybe as nice as Brian Hawthornthwaite's that later became Biggs's. I don't know what happened to it after Biggs sold it and purchased his beautiful D, but that's another story.
IMHO, this thread is about a really nice car that was for sale and one that many of us, myself included, would love to have in our garages. I took what was posted as a chance to admire a really nice car and to bring it to the attention of somebody who might be looking for an upscale replica to purchase. Some of the tangents we go off on really puzzle me, no sh**!
IMHO, this thread is about a really nice car that was for sale and one that many of us, myself included, would love to have in our garages. I took what was posted as a chance to admire a really nice car and to bring it to the attention of somebody who might be looking for an upscale replica to purchase. Some of the tangents we go off on really puzzle me, no sh**!
This forum is as close as some of us will ever get to sitting down for a beverage and a chat with the rest . . . almost EVERY post goes astray, it's like a real sit-down at one of our homes. It's through these tangents that I gotten to know you guys better and made a few real friends.
I like it . . . don't you. Fun and spirited and eventually someone will say, "no, but really, what did you think of that ride?" and everyone circles back in on topic.
Buy the way, the car that Paul posted is PERFECTION!
I like it . . . don't you. Fun and spirited and eventually someone will say, "no, but really, what did you think of that ride?" and everyone circles back in on topic.
Buy the way, the car that Paul posted is PERFECTION!
Well, I suppose so, but I'll have to dock ya haff-a-deys pay (Scrooge). Sorry, I'm going through caffeine withdrawal. Everything looks a little tilted, twisted and funny-colored. Now there's a tangent for ya!