Proving it is a 1966 Engine

Have you checked a Bentley manual?

Phil,

Might be a pain, but way back in 1983 when I first titled my VW based MG TD replica in NJ, I had to verify the engine year.

I took the car in to a loca VW dealership. They gave me a letter on their letterhead verifying the engine number and year.

I'd bet most VW dealerships are looking for all the good "pr" they can get right now, and will likely help you out.

Is chassis a '66 VW too?  SAMBA has a technical listing that gives chassis and engine number by year.  "Scotty, I need more power!"

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/arc...bugchassisdating.php

Of course, an F-engine could be from a 1965-1970 VW.  Why do they need to know exact year of engine?  Aren't all VW engines 25 years old exempt from emissions - an F engine would be 50 years old.

Wolfgang, Phil is trying to title his car in New Jersey.

Any questions that concern the NJ Motor Vehicle Commission and begin with "why"

(as in "why do they need to know the exact year of the engine?")

are answered:

"Because it's NJ."

Errrrrr Bently? I sense humor

The DMV guy told me they need to know the origin of the engine, size, year of manufacture so they can classify for future inspections. He said once i prove it is a 1966 then i wouldn't not be required to go through emissions.

I found a listing in a Haynes Manual this morning, Just wanted to see if i can find one more reference so they have no room for argument. Maybe a VW Technical Manual or handbook. That should do it.

Thanks Guys

Nobody on this site is going to argue with you......IT IS NJ DMV!!!

The chassis is a '69 the engine a '66 and i think the steering rack is a '68.....kit cars sure make mutt cars look pretty.

Yes, a Bentley "official" VW service manual for the years in question.  It is the aftermarket accepted guide to servicing the air-cooled VW.

The dealer service manual series was (I think) 12 or 13 separate books that took up 3 feet of shelf space - no way you're gonna find one of those, so the Bentley manual i the best fallback.

Did I miss something getting into this thread late?  Why not look for the engine number on the Samba site list???? Print it out and shove that up the....chain.

From the Broadway show, "Chicago", 'When you're good to Mama':

The folks a top the ladder
are the ones the world adores -
So boost me up my ladder kid
and I'll boost you - up yours!

Well said Gordon.

66-69 Bentley manual is about the best $30 you can spend on one of these little beasties...

I posted link to SAMBA that has month/year production engine serial numbers - an F engine was used in 1965-1970.  Provide the rest of engine numbers and look it up there.  Someone with the Bentley manual can verify # there too.  Although that engine started life as a 1300 cc - it probably is a 1500 or 1600 cc now if it was rebuilt over its 50 year life.  

F case in the USA is 1966 only, 1300 cc. That's what I had in Bridget when I bought her. She also has a 1969 chassis. How about that?

Mine had larger jugs, probably 1500, the PO said. He couldn't remember for sure, as it had been near 40 years since he did the rebuild.

All this was documented in the paperwork I got with the car. Luckily, none of it mattered in MD, where the car has lived all its life.

Good luck, Phil. 

Phil,

It's easy to find out what year your engine case is. All the sources mentioned in this thread are good ones, and we know they are accurate.

My concern is the NJ MVC staff telling you they want an "official source." Even the Bentley manuals, as good as they are, are still an aftermarket product/resource.

If you want to ensure you get this done with one trip to the MVC office, I still think a certification letter from a VW dealer is your best option. They may even look it up in a Bentley manual.  But nothing else is going to say "Volkswagen" at the top.