did search, found someone with it, but no tech responses.
how difficult would it be to wire up a push button starter? as simple as wiring up the steering column im guessing, or is there more relays and other things to worry about?
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did search, found someone with it, but no tech responses.
how difficult would it be to wire up a push button starter? as simple as wiring up the steering column im guessing, or is there more relays and other things to worry about?
how difficult would it be to wire up a push button starter? as simple as wiring up the steering column im guessing, or is there more relays and other things to worry about?
Nope, just wires.
All thata push button started button does is privide batter power to the solenoid. One wire to and from with the button between.
Easy peasy!
TC
All thata push button started button does is privide batter power to the solenoid. One wire to and from with the button between.
Easy peasy!
TC
I MEANT to saw, before my spelling went wonky is:
Nope, just wires.
All that a starter button does is provide battery power to the solenoid. Essentially a single wire from the positive battery terminal to the first button prong and another wire from the second prong to the solenoid. Push the button and 12 volts goes through the wire, through the button contact and to the starter solenoid.
Easy peasy.
TC
Nope, just wires.
All that a starter button does is provide battery power to the solenoid. Essentially a single wire from the positive battery terminal to the first button prong and another wire from the second prong to the solenoid. Push the button and 12 volts goes through the wire, through the button contact and to the starter solenoid.
Easy peasy.
TC
TC, can you just turn the key to the 'on' position and then push the 'start' button? (so the key stays in the 'on' position until you turn the motor off).
I notice that with a Honda S2000 the driver has to turn the key with his right hand, (and hold it in the start position) and then, with his left hand, push the start button.
Ron
I notice that with a Honda S2000 the driver has to turn the key with his right hand, (and hold it in the start position) and then, with his left hand, push the start button.
Ron
"Sump'in" wrong if on a Honda S2000 you have to do two functions at the same time to start it.
Most Honda drivers couldn't do one thing at the same time ;-)
On mine, the key turns one notch to energize trhe accessories and the electric fuel pump, then I hit the starter toggle switch until she lights and then release - very cool.
A very easy mod. take the wire from the "starter" terminal on the key switch and move it to the push button or toggle switch. Then jumper the "accessory" terminal on the key switch to the other terminal on the push button or toggle.
Mike
A very easy mod. take the wire from the "starter" terminal on the key switch and move it to the push button or toggle switch. Then jumper the "accessory" terminal on the key switch to the other terminal on the push button or toggle.
Mike
I just turn my key on and push the button. I tapped into the start wire and connected it to one side of the button and tapped into the ignition "on" wire to the other side of the button. Both of the wires come from the key ignition switch in the column. I can still start it with the key also.
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As everyone already posted. YES! And that's the coolest part.
You turn the key to "on" position. That puts 12 power to the coil, then pust the start button and DISCO, you're off and running.
If/when the car stalls out at the light because the choke isn't set or the car HAS no chokes in the dual carbs. You just punch the button and you're off again. No turning the key off and on to start and blah, blah, blah
The button is really a ton of fun. I had one strapped to the shifter sort of NOX/PTO style. It was a ratty old Empi that had rusted up and the button looked like it came out of an old semi tractor and it was held on with duct tape and I felt like Mad Max every time I started the car, and did THAT ever set me up for "trouble ahead, trouble behind." It was a BALL. I can see why the button is coming back with the big manufacturers.
Luck,
TC
You turn the key to "on" position. That puts 12 power to the coil, then pust the start button and DISCO, you're off and running.
If/when the car stalls out at the light because the choke isn't set or the car HAS no chokes in the dual carbs. You just punch the button and you're off again. No turning the key off and on to start and blah, blah, blah
The button is really a ton of fun. I had one strapped to the shifter sort of NOX/PTO style. It was a ratty old Empi that had rusted up and the button looked like it came out of an old semi tractor and it was held on with duct tape and I felt like Mad Max every time I started the car, and did THAT ever set me up for "trouble ahead, trouble behind." It was a BALL. I can see why the button is coming back with the big manufacturers.
Luck,
TC
Here's what I used...
www.stylinconcepts.com/parts.cfm/partfamilyid/491/lc/pfpt/CategoryID/28/SubCategoryID/194
Comes in many colors, lights up when you turn the key to "On"
Jerome
www.stylinconcepts.com/parts.cfm/partfamilyid/491/lc/pfpt/CategoryID/28/SubCategoryID/194
Comes in many colors, lights up when you turn the key to "On"
Jerome
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Very nice dash. The button looks great. Jerome, the link didn't work for me.
Ron
Ron
It worked for me. If it still doesn't work just search the stylinconcepts.com site.
I attached a close up of the button for the stylinconcepts web site.
Jerome
I attached a close up of the button for the stylinconcepts web site.
Jerome
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Okay, tried the site again and now it works...go figure. Thanks Jerome.
Ron
Ron
Porsche made a boxster commercial a couple of years ago that featured an original spyder. During the sequence, there is a very brief closeup of the start button on the dash. It just seems to be such a cool way to start the car.
The commercial is in the "Sightings" section at spyderowners.com. You can use this link once you login.
www.spyderowners.com/media/vault/porschecommercial/
-=theron
The commercial is in the "Sightings" section at spyderowners.com. You can use this link once you login.
www.spyderowners.com/media/vault/porschecommercial/
-=theron
Having made the change to my spyder I can say that it is cool - however, the other day I forgot and tried turning the key. I tried several times and not a click. Then I smiled as my brain caught up. I hit the button and it lit right off.
Mike
Mike
What does the starter button look like used in the Spyders? Is there a link to a supplier with a photo?
What ever happened to parking on the hill, get a running start in neutral, hop in and pop the clutch? Did that in high school all the time. Oh, your wife doesn't like to push now? Get new wife.
Yeah!! I used to start my Triumph Spitfire that way, about 35 yrs ago. Nowadays its the "hop in" part that I would have trouble with. However, my wife recently did say she would love to shove my Speedster down some hill.
My wife used to push my 46 Ford for me when we first got married.........but that only lasted one season and then I got the ultimatum of "get that thing to start right OR ELSE!"
BTW: I placed a picture of my 46 in Photos under nichols1 with the view my wife most often saw of me. It was a screamer when it was running, though.....Full-race flathead with dual Stromberg 96's, bored out over 100 thousandths, Edlebrock manifold, planed and ported heads, 435 lift-294 duration cam, and a "Kong" ignition, all running through a Lasalle 3-speed (on the column).
Oh! and it wouldn't start because there wasn't enough vacuum from the cam to pull the accelerator valves shut - found out how to rework the accelerator valve springs and it was cured (and the wife was happy!)
BTW: I placed a picture of my 46 in Photos under nichols1 with the view my wife most often saw of me. It was a screamer when it was running, though.....Full-race flathead with dual Stromberg 96's, bored out over 100 thousandths, Edlebrock manifold, planed and ported heads, 435 lift-294 duration cam, and a "Kong" ignition, all running through a Lasalle 3-speed (on the column).
Oh! and it wouldn't start because there wasn't enough vacuum from the cam to pull the accelerator valves shut - found out how to rework the accelerator valve springs and it was cured (and the wife was happy!)
if you decide you want the starter button to have a early look .Just visit Dinnis Carpender Ford PartS I think the 50 to 54 truck starter button. is very close. I also liked their light and wiper switches with the Chrome lettered bezels. They look very good ,I used them on mine.
What about no key at all? Some sort of coded remote to turn on/off power, then the push button for starting. Not a remote start, just a remote that turns the "key" to run and then back again. Maybe an emergency kill switch in case the remote stops working? Any thoughts?
I sawa replica that had a cut off switch up under the dash and the cigarette lighter that was pushed in to actuate the starter.
Reading the above, I couldn't help thinking of "The Clapper".
Saw a nice looking momentary action push button switch at a West Marine store, $16, I bought one with the idea of putting in the Speedster but haven't tried to install yet.
Saw a nice looking momentary action push button switch at a West Marine store, $16, I bought one with the idea of putting in the Speedster but haven't tried to install yet.
The Clapper ideas has given my an idea for something similar...sort of. I'd call it the 'Fartter'. Just sit down in the driver's seat and 'cut the cheese'....motor starts by itself, and away you go. It could work on either sound or smell. Might not work too well on a first date, though.
Ron
Ron
The picture of the $7 button on the Carpter Ford site looks suspiciously like the $100 plus units I've seen for sale on Ebay. Actually ... they look identical even down to the "start" on the bezel.
Hmmmmmmmm,.
Hmmmmmmmm,.
Barry, can you post a link to the wiper and headlight switches you used?
Charlie:
I've seen a number of Street rods with keyless entry and ignition - they typically have a small keypad on or near the dash that you use to enter your keycode and then push "*" and it starts by firing the starter solenoid. No key or anything, but DON'T forget that kecode!
Browse through Street Rodder or Rod and Custom Magazine and I'm sure you'll find one.
I've seen a number of Street rods with keyless entry and ignition - they typically have a small keypad on or near the dash that you use to enter your keycode and then push "*" and it starts by firing the starter solenoid. No key or anything, but DON'T forget that kecode!
Browse through Street Rodder or Rod and Custom Magazine and I'm sure you'll find one.
I wanted to use a Ford button when I was getting ready to install a starter button but they are single pole. I guess they send ground to the solenoid. I needed to send 12V. so I found a NOS double pole button switch for a late 40's Hudson that looked perfect. Works great!
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I'm getting into this discussion late but have a question or two. Was the push button starter on all speedster years? and where was it located? My 54 coupe had the push button start but can't remember location. Looked on 356 registry and found nice photo of original speedster with button just above key but also found one where either it wasn't there or was on left. Found a button in McMaster-Carr catolouge that looks like it might be just about right. P/N 69755K63
rated 10 amps @12 V. 5/8" dia cutout, 3/4 OD X 1-7/32 LG price about $7.00. One thing I do remember is that the push button does allow you to crank engine without having it start that in certain cases is usefull like various maintenance work. Also if you stall you don't loose the radio on the restart.
Lew
rated 10 amps @12 V. 5/8" dia cutout, 3/4 OD X 1-7/32 LG price about $7.00. One thing I do remember is that the push button does allow you to crank engine without having it start that in certain cases is usefull like various maintenance work. Also if you stall you don't loose the radio on the restart.
Lew
Will 10A be enough?
Jerome
Jerome
Jerome
10 amps should be more than enough as it's only energizing the solenoid the same as the key switch does now.
Lew
10 amps should be more than enough as it's only energizing the solenoid the same as the key switch does now.
Lew
Saw a new JPS recently (Erik's) and I believe the starter button was on the left, next to light switch...I'm also wondering what is the correct location.
The correct position for the starter button on original 356 Speedsters is directly above the ignition switch. The starter button was discontinued with the introduction of the 356A, when it was integrated with the ignition switch.
Interestingly an original 356 starter button recently sold on eBay for $255....
Interestingly an original 356 starter button recently sold on eBay for $255....
One more thing about the early Ford starter buttons and doorlocks and key switches certain models will exept Vw and porsche key blanks
I found starter buttons at advance autoparts, in the general electrical isle for $4.88 (more or less). No trim ring with it.