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I'm looking at the possibility of changing from box to rack for steering. I was on the J Bugs site and they seem to have all the components to do this so I was wondering if anyone has done this with success.

My car is down at the moment after this past weekends event and looking for possible solutions like converting to rack, installing earlier solid column and or getting the column crush basket sleeved and welded (Alan, I think you may have done this)

Any way thanks in advance and any solution would have to support hard mountain driving conditions.

Michael

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I have looked at a complete conversion kit that is sold by a company in Germany I think. It appeared to be a bolt in set up. It wasn't cheap but what is? It uses only one side of a rack to move the existing tie rods so it is actually a semi rack and pinion of sorts. At least it gets rid of the old steering box.Has anyone used this ? If so how was it?

VW Rack and pinion kit.

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@Jimmy V. posted:

I have looked at a complete conversion kit that is sold by a company in Germany I think. It appeared to be a bolt in set up. It wasn't cheap but what is? It uses only one side of a rack to move the existing tie rods so it is actually a semi rack and pinion of sorts. At least it gets rid of the old steering box.Has anyone used this ? If so how was it?

VW Rack and pinion kit.

I disagree. It is a rack and pinion, the tie rods just pick up off nearly the same point to ensure the least amount of bump-steer, keeping as close to the original VW arrangement as possible. If installed correctly, it will provide excellent function with zero play and totally equal bump-steer left or right.

I drove an IM with the Rabbit/Golf rack and liked it(and yes, Henry used an offset two U-joint steering shaft). The rack makes the VW beam as good as it can possibly be IMHO. It's on my list of future mods.

This picture is of a Polo rack from Europe, modified to fit a beam. The Polo rack does in fact use the same equal-length tie-rods and pickup point, rack being offset to the driver's side.

And before somebody starts talking about using a Super Beetle steering rack, you can't. The Super Beetle rack is in front and steers via leading arms, the regular Beetle beam requires a trailing spindle/arm arrangement.

Michael got parts from some dude in Europe on the Samba, and is somewhere between $600 to $1000 complete. I look forward to seeing it complete.

@DannyP posted:

I happen to have a 911 column, U-joints, and rack complete to the tie-rod ends. It may find it's way into my car someday, but I've got to figure out location(hint, hint @Stan Galat) and bracketry so as to minimize bump-steer.

I'll get the car on the lift and get  you what you need, @DannyP.

The beam with a real rack is not an A-arm suspension, but it's as good as beam steering can possibly be (which is pretty darned good).

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