OK, so we posted at the same time. So you have one example. This has not been my experience. I've autocrossed the car many times and done track days. No problems. And everyone here will tell you I definitely DON'T drive like Grandma.
R Vosari posted:
Mr. Panhandle,
I am a long time drag and road racer (40 + years). I once had an Anglia Gas Coupe which had 3” wide front rims and the appropriate (very narrow) rubber. No one would attempt any high speed turns with this set-up except in a dire emergency !
But perhaps of more relevance is my experience with my own Beck Spyder. When purchased from Adriana Lima and her husband, the car had 200 miles on the clock, and needed to have both front and rear suspension “tuned” and aligned... which I did.
After some 2000 mile I was disappointed at “tuck” (understeer characteristics). Since the Mangels wheels could not be balanced (massive runout), I got rid of them, and only then discovered that the front rims fitted with 185/65/15” rubber were 4 ½ inches wide…inadequate…in every way, and that explained why the tires in the front literally peeled off the rims in entry to sharp corners, irrespective of normal (1.4-1.7 bar) tire pressures.
If you don’t go fast…it really does not matter…but if you try to go fast with the wrong set-up... there is a guard-rail out there waiting to get to know you better
ReV
You'll note that I eliminated my earlier post. I Decided I just didn't want to get into this, but you saw the post before I eliminated it, so here goes.....
First, Mr. Panhandle is unnecessary. Just call me Bob.
Second, it may amaze you to learn that I actually understand the meaning of terms like "tuck". No need to define.
Thirdly, I am surprised that you didn't do a thorough inspection of the Spyder before acquiring it. If you had, you would have known what the tire and wheel size were. Something expected of a man with more than forty years of drag and road racing under his belt.
And, lastly, you come across as a pompous ass.
No need to respond, I don't have time for this. I have a lot of time, just not for this, and I am simply going to block you.
Bob, hope to shake your hand in person someday.
Back at you, Danny.
Panhandle Bob posted:R Vosari posted:
Mr. Panhandle,
I am a long time drag and road racer (40 + years). I once had an Anglia Gas Coupe which had 3” wide front rims and the appropriate (very narrow) rubber. No one would attempt any high speed turns with this set-up except in a dire emergency !
But perhaps of more relevance is my experience with my own Beck Spyder. When purchased from Adriana Lima and her husband, the car had 200 miles on the clock, and needed to have both front and rear suspension “tuned” and aligned... which I did.
After some 2000 mile I was disappointed at “tuck” (understeer characteristics). Since the Mangels wheels could not be balanced (massive runout), I got rid of them, and only then discovered that the front rims fitted with 185/65/15” rubber were 4 ½ inches wide…inadequate…in every way, and that explained why the tires in the front literally peeled off the rims in entry to sharp corners, irrespective of normal (1.4-1.7 bar) tire pressures.
If you don’t go fast…it really does not matter…but if you try to go fast with the wrong set-up... there is a guard-rail out there waiting to get to know you better
ReV
You'll note that I eliminated my earlier post. I Decided I just didn't want to get into this, but you saw the post before I eliminated it, so here goes.....
First, Mr. Panhandle is unnecessary. Just call me Bob.
Second, it may amaze you to learn that I actually understand the meaning of terms like "tuck". No need to define.
Thirdly, I am surprised that you didn't do a thorough inspection of the Spyder before acquiring it. If you had, you would have known what the tire and wheel size were. Something expected of a man with more than forty years of drag and road racing under his belt.
And, lastly, you come across as a pompous ass.
No need to respond, I don't have time for this. I have a lot of time, just not for this, and I am simply going to block you.
I guess I don't need to point this out to him, you handled it first!
Anybody got any popcorn?
Panhandle Bob posted:R Vosari posted:
Mr. Panhandle,
I am a long time drag and road racer (40 + years). I once had an Anglia Gas Coupe which had 3” wide front rims and the appropriate (very narrow) rubber. No one would attempt any high speed turns with this set-up except in a dire emergency !
But perhaps of more relevance is my experience with my own Beck Spyder. When purchased from Adriana Lima and her husband, the car had 200 miles on the clock, and needed to have both front and rear suspension “tuned” and aligned... which I did.
After some 2000 mile I was disappointed at “tuck” (understeer characteristics). Since the Mangels wheels could not be balanced (massive runout), I got rid of them, and only then discovered that the front rims fitted with 185/65/15” rubber were 4 ½ inches wide…inadequate…in every way, and that explained why the tires in the front literally peeled off the rims in entry to sharp corners, irrespective of normal (1.4-1.7 bar) tire pressures.
If you don’t go fast…it really does not matter…but if you try to go fast with the wrong set-up... there is a guard-rail out there waiting to get to know you better
ReV
You'll note that I eliminated my earlier post. I Decided I just didn't want to get into this, but you saw the post before I eliminated it, so here goes.....
First, Mr. Panhandle is unnecessary. Just call me Bob.
Second, it may amaze you to learn that I actually understand the meaning of terms like "tuck". No need to define.
Thirdly, I am surprised that you didn't do a thorough inspection of the Spyder before acquiring it. If you had, you would have known what the tire and wheel size were. Something expected of a man with more than forty years of drag and road racing under his belt.
And, lastly, you come across as a pompous ass.
No need to respond, I don't have time for this. I have a lot of time, just not for this, and I am simply going to block you.
THANK GOODNESS the PANHANDLE has blocked me also
I'd have to visit a SHRINK
if he did NOT
POPCORN anyone?
I've always followed the published tire size/rim width recommendations. (I don't believe in Global warming though - especially the human contribution). Was told a 4-4.5 rim got a 145/155 tire and 5/5.5 got 165/175/185 tire. The explanation was "too wide a tire on a rim could cause the side wall to start to roll over and lose air (suddenly deflate) in aggressive driving or the side wall to be damaged from the rim due to contact in area not designed for contact. Newer rims (for tubeless tires so not early VW rims ) do have a safety bump in the rims to help prevent this and keep the stiff tire bead situated). The side wall on passenger tires are flimsy with like 2 ply nylon cord. This maybe "old school" and is based on old tall tires (80 or 75 aspect ratio tires) like original '70 sports cars used). With lower aspect ratios, the side walls are shorter so stiffer - even on 65 series but more so on 50/45/40. I suspect weight of car and tire compound has impact too. A light car with wide tires on skinny rim and sticky rubber would be different than heavy powerful Chevy on same set up.
Nice diagrams
... but the fact that the captions say "to" instead of "too" bothers my sensibilities.
@Stan Galat, it is nice to see your comment.
Grammar. The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.
as a former Proof/Content Editor for two national fishing magazines, I get a kick out of this forum, many of the posts wouldn't pass muster in a 6th grade english class but...I love you all anyway, keep on destroying my (and Stan and Michaels) sensibilities...
I love all too and there are other things that offend my sensibilities more than grammar and punctuation - like Wolfgang's comment on global warming. I love the maker of such comments despite their misguided opinions.
I find any theory that cannot be questioned and where my tax dollars are commanded to be used by governments akin to a religion.
Where Religious belief are questioned there is always suppositions of lack of intelligence to the one believing in reliigion or God, yet no one can question the theory of global warming or CO2 emissions.
Let's face it, it is just the new religion that is state sponsored by zealots who have taken control of our governments, and their coffers and discovered that they can control the public purse to their advantage.
Ethanol in gaz is another nonsense.
Well, we have launched into thread drift.
I agree about ethanol.
Ray;
Do not move to California. Just sayin. It would drive you nuts.
I should also mention that while this was happening, the take over of the government purse that is, those in the real world who happened to have a higher than normal IQ simply when off to make money in the capital system forgetting that those who chose the government sector, will when they get numerous enough, take control of the government coffers and policies, and cause the sale of Government koolaid to be sold from K to 12 and also universities.
Science by it's definition is to be continually questioned until whatever is postulated can be replicated by any investigator. It is Evidence based.
Now we have the Ideology of historical science where no witness exists replacing real Science...
Historical science is just theory, and to adopt it as fact, is certainly the new koolaid of government.
Hence my definition of this koolaid being the new Religion. Religion is not rational, and certainly mostly in your mind... hence the very definition of a delusional state.
And it keeps on going.
Hope you enjoyed my rant. 
Art posted:Ray;
Do not move to California. Just sayin. It would drive you nuts.
Cali, Virginia to name a few.
Apologize for the "too" faux pas. Pulled diagram from internet so can't blame auto-correct. All the other diagrams spelled "tyres" wrong - couldn't have that!
Will,
You may want to read your posts again for editing/content errors. Your errors must be at the 7th grade level.
wow, sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes...Jim included...
Boy, am I ever glad I didn't have any thing to say recently...
Maybe Will was joking? If not, I don't get it.
WOLFGANG posted:Apologize for the "too" faux pas. Pulled diagram from internet so can't blame auto-correct. All the other diagrams spelled "tyres" wrong - couldn't have that!
"Ain't no thang", as it were.
Carry on.
Speaking of grammar, I have been using an app called Grammarly. The basic version is free. It not only checks your spelling, but also grammar and punctuation.
Marty Grzynkowicz posted:Maybe Will was joking? If not, I don't get it.
I think it was about Will's comment above about being a former Proof/Content editor of two national fishing mags and yet he stated that while using bad grammar techniques in his post. Cali cool I guess ?
Will Hesch posted:as a former Proof/Content Editor for two national fishing magazines, I get a kick out of this forum, many of the posts wouldn't pass muster in a 6th grade english class but...I love you all anyway, keep on destroying my (and Stan and Michaels) sensibilities...
As, English, Michael's
And Will, I'm just playing around. I do not care how people type on this forum. I've made many mistakes myself, especially when trying to post from my phone and don't proofread before I hit send.
Not my favorite thread.
Jack Crosby posted:Not my favorite thread.
I agree. The thread drift has become petty. I also think it was a big misunderstanding. If I understand correctly, Greg pulled the diagrams off the internet and the captions already included the wrong word. The thrashing began immediately afterward and in some cases it was done incorrectly.
In the infamous words of Rodney King, "Can we all get along?".
Or, in the immortal words of musbjim: Can't we all get a longboard?
ALB posted:Boy, am I ever glad I didn't have any thing to say recently...
And that is unusual...
Iam-RAY, I did enjoy the rant. As age takes over my mind and body, I have become more conservative and certainly more concerned about government influence on our daily freedoms. Unfortunately, living in the NY State of taxes my entire life has left me with an even deeper fear of government influence. I recently read a book by a strongly opinionated libertarian. "Progressivism: A Primer on the Idea Destroying America"
Great book on our public schools, political issues and our increasingly intrusive government regulators. I didn't agree with everything in the book. But, I agreed with most!
Sorry for continuing the thread drift.... mea culpa.
To paraphrase a conversation between a TV reporter and Jerry Rubin of the 1960's radical political group "The Chicago 7":
Reporter: "What are you people against?
Rubin: "What have you got?"
I find myself more and more concerned about government intrusion as well, but I am following the path of many others, the more you acquire and value, the more you feel the need to protect it, and then you die and it doesn't matter.
I don't think Rubin owned a replica Speedster. Maybe the reporter did.
Mea maxima culpa
What did I miss? Can someone recap it for me? 
Panhandle Bob posted:... the more you acquire and value, the more you feel the need to protect it, and then you die and it doesn't matter.
I regret that I have but one “like” to give for this comment.
I also (kinda’/sorta’) regret my pedantic comment regarding the absent “o”s. I’ve got no desire to pretend I am a grammar-Nazi. There/their, its/it’s, two/to/too, whether/weather, et al— I just need to get over it.
Bob: IM S6 posted:ALB posted:Boy, am I ever glad I didn't have any thing to say recently...
And that is unusual...
And what would you be inferring, kind sir?
I started a new topic which actually may be of some help to others with wiper issues. Hopefully this thread will fade into history! ;-)
Jim Kelly posted:Or, in the immortal words of musbjim: Can't we all get a longboard?
Also, I HATE when auto-correct messes with the shirt I write on this forum! 
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