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Reproduction 1958 Speedster built by Vintage Speedsters of California in 2000. Mechanically, All VW.
Silver with Black interior. 1600cc Motor, Dual Carbs, 3:88 Transmission, Front Disc Brakes.
Nardi Wheel, CD Player, Alarm, Hardwiring for Valentine One (V1 not included)
Approx 19,000 KM (11,000 Miles)
Dog is now too big to fit in car.
Ask $16,500
917-860 5319
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Reproduction 1958 Speedster built by Vintage Speedsters of California in 2000. Mechanically, All VW.
Silver with Black interior. 1600cc Motor, Dual Carbs, 3:88 Transmission, Front Disc Brakes.
Nardi Wheel, CD Player, Alarm, Hardwiring for Valentine One (V1 not included)
Approx 19,000 KM (11,000 Miles)
Dog is now too big to fit in car.
Ask $16,500
917-860 5319

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Oh thanks. Did not know that. Which cars are built on their own pan? Becks are, aren't they? I thought Vintage was the same way. I think Intermeccanica is built on its own pan. Does the chassis make a large difference, or does the handling depend on something else??? I was always told the car will drive like what it's built on.
David
They drive AWESOME. Pan-Tube, they ride like they were designed. An original drives like a pan. A stiffer ride with less flex (as if we'll ever notice) would be tube. The reason some people build tube framed is SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CAN, and marketing comes up with the other reasons.

The tube will give you more foot room since it is a few inches wider in the foot well area. But, hey, a Speedster is a Speedster it's about the top down and the roar of the engine. This looks like a nice one..

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This is JMHO, but when I think about the Volkswagen Beetle, I think of a car originally designed as a 25 hp car designed to carry four people in reasonable comfort, safety and reliability, sort of the Germany's tin Lizzy; I believe the objective was to put an automobile into each German's garage. The car evolved into what is probably one of the most loved and recognized vehicles of all time. Good work, Ferdinand!

Speaking in general terms, it seems to me that when you take a basic, well thought out design and attempt to turn it into something quite different, the end result might compromise some of the basic design intententions with unexpected, unwanted and sometimes dangerous consequences. No slight is intended towards pan based Speedsters, since I owned one and thought it was pretty great. It did, however, have its limitations.

Looking back at the Beetle, I suggest that any vehicle that is purpose built and adheres to the original design intent is probably inherently superior to something modified, becomming substantially different, or at least this is my take on the matter. This is why I chose a tube frame car to replace my pan-based car.

As I stated, this is just my opinion. I could have kept my VS and still been very happy. But for someone who is shopping (David), I thought one person's experience might be helpful.
David,
Is the ride between your old vintage and your new SAW noticeably different?
ANSWER: The ride is somewhat stiffer in the SAW and the handling is VERY much better compared to my stock VS Speedster.

By the way, what are the advantages of the water-cooled engine of the SAW?
ANSWER: Almost no routine maintenance beyond keeping the oil fresh and the filters clean. The engine is relatively large displacement and relys on modern design and computer control to produce decent horsepower without the need for trick after market parts (there is a larger engine available also). It runs well on 87 octane fuel and averaged 34.5 mpg on my California trip. Also, you have plenty of cabin heat when it's cold.

One other question. There is a soft blue Intermeccanica on EBAY. It's old, but restored.
ANSWER: I know nothing of this car. Any older model needs careful evaluation to avoid being taken down the "garden path."
John
David; if you're going to use this car as a daily driver as Steve is going to do, I agree that the SAW is probably the best route and may I suggest you get a Convertible D model which is a lot more weathertight than the Speedster version due to the design of the windshield.

With respect to the Intermecs, the older versions were pan based and the newer ones are tube frame. In my case, and for the driving that I do, I'm perfectly happy with my VS. Also the price is right. In terms of maintenance, the VW air cooled engine doesn't need much either; change the oil and adjust the valves (optional since the VW manual says adjust valves every 6,000 miles) every 3,000 miles; lube the front end every 6,000 miles; change spark plugs every 12,000. Also, if you like to tinker with your cars (as most of us here), maintenance is not a hassle but plain fun. Finally, the VW powered models are such close relatives of the real 356's that with a little tweaking you get the feel, performance (sometimes improving over the originals) and even sound of the originals, which is important for purists like me.
Small correction. SAW does not make a Convertible D, only a Cabriolet; they are not the same. The Cabrios were part of the model lineup before the Speedster appeared and the Conv D was an outgrowth of the Speedster. The most obvious differences are that the Conv D has a bolted on windshield framed in metal finish whereas the windshield of the Cabrio is an integral part of the body and painted body color. Also, the Cabrio's top is cut approximately 5 1/2 inches farther back into the rear deck.

It was a learning experience for me too ;-)

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Jeff, ask anybody who attended Carlisle this year about the trip to the museum. On Friday we had rain on the drive to the fairgrounds for registration and all the way to the museum and back. Finally it let up and cleared off in the the early afternoon. Good test?

There was a slight dribble on the driver's side where the horizontal and vertical frame members meet by the lower front door sill; I hope Steve will fix this next time he as the car. Apparently, this is a weather stripping issue as the passenger side door didn't do this. Small adjustment required.

The defroster is quite effective, but I found that it worked best with the window slightly cracked.
Beautiful. I had a brand new BMW Z3 at one point and it did the same thing, so if thats the only complaint... :)

I was also wondering... how much of a daily driver is you car? You talked a lot about the reliability and peace of mind of the car relative to your VS, given the modern drivetrain. Is it really a daily use, don't think twice about it, kind of car?

Or, as the boys at Road and Track once said "Is it a car that you can lend to someone without any extra instructions?" :)

-Jeff
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