rubber engine decklid seal?

oops - i didnt know you could add a topic with no title.


I'm in the finishing stages of my car (aren't we all?), and my attempt to do this remaining item has proven futile.

I wan to have some sort of finishing seal around the engine compartment lid. This is not the engine seal to keep hot air out of the engine compartment (engine tin).

I know real 356's came with little rubber/teflon buttons to stop rattles. my fiberglass engine compartment wasn't cut out that carefully and i didn't smooth it out before the paint - so i want to finish it off with some sort of black rubber seal


Does anyone know where can i order (online) an seal for the decklid / rear hood / trunk?

Look at Mcmaster-Carr p/n 93085K85.....Make sure you do not stretch the rubber as you apply it as this will break the adhesion of the tape to the rubber....Once installed, its prety bullet proof....Right Drclock?????

Precisely...http://www.mcmaster.com/#foam-seals/=c1r6hl
Just last week (in the afternoon) I ordered several pieces of their foam seals since I wasn't for sure exactly what I needed. The woman said thanks for your order it'll be there tomottow.
AND IT WAS AT MY DOOR BY 9:30 am. Mine came as a red rubber (and I thought I saw they had both red and black), so if you're particular (and I definitely see you are), you might want to inquire about color. In addition to selection, small quantities of this weatherstripping is available, not 100 foot rolls of the stuff. Whileon their site, browse around, they have plenty of other odd items you don't find in just any hardware store.

I just double checked their description for what I ordered...Silicone Seals

If you want to hide the edge, do a search on mcmaster.com for "edge-grip rubber seals", style 2 or 3 on catalog page 3438. It's a push-on style vs adhesive. Only concern might be clearance between the opening and the vertical sides of the hood since that seal style would reduce that gap.

You also have a really tight gap around your airfilters that might cause issues with this style. But you could easily grind the edges back more, some paint or other coating to seal the raw edge, and then hide the evidence with these seals without needing to repaint.

So that orange/red color they describe is similar to your wiring on your engine.

It looks like the same opening as a Vintage--I guess it could be measured---Vintage sells a nice rubber piece that fits around the engine opening. That is one good lloking car!!

Nobody has mentioned the fact that those original little buttons were put there for a reason - ENGINE COOLING. The decklid and buttons were designed to let cool air enter the engine compartment around the deck lid and aid in engine cooling.

If you completely seal the rear deck lid, you are eliminating one important source of cooling air for your engine. Maybe your engine will run hot, maybe it won't. For me, I'll stick with what the Porsche folks designed - little buttons.

Little buttons is what my Beck has

Listen to David he is correct

Makes sense to me, but if you're looking for seals, the above site has what you might be looking for.

david - i have two massive holes in my decklid that are opened to the air. there is no air sealing going on. LOL

I think the OEM use of buttons was more for preventing rattles and metal-metal contact on the OEM steel pieces than allowing cooling are in or out. Back then, the use of A strip of rubber (or foam) would also trap water on them causing rust.

Good god McMaster-Carr is dangerous!

they sell some cool stuff.

I'm looking at style 9. something subtle, that does the trick

Yes, they have quite a selection of things to choose from. Make sure you browse their site carefully, seems like some of the stuff lurks there but not always obviously.

Can I just say again that that mango car is just about the most gorgeous, drool-worthy bit of machinery I've ever seen? There, I said it. And I ain't taking it back.

I've been thinking the same thing since the first time I saw it last year. Very tasty.

thanks guys. i just took it for a drive yesterday for the first time after major overhauls (a different new engine / brakes)

back on subject....

i take back all the good things i said about McMaster-Carr. They SUCK!
(Well, not really - i'm just not impressed.)

"Thank you for your order. Unfortunately, due to the ever increasing complexity of United States export regulations, McMaster-Carr will only process orders from a few long-established customers in Canada. We sincerely regret any inconvenience this causes you.



Thank you,



David Ulam

McMaster-Carr Supply Co

330-995-5929

"

so....

any other ideas?

Got any good friends in Bellingham, WA? Did you order by phone?

Mango-what part description and number did you try to order thru McMaster-Carr? (style 9?)
ADD-Try Trim-Lok (Canada-click the Mapleleaf, upper right)
http://www.trimlok.com/rubber_seal.aspx

http://trimlok.argusindustries.ca/

thanks Scott,

They do sell to canada - but in 100' roll ($$$)

i looked at JC Whitney - not quite the size i was looking for (but they do ship to canada)

The D' rubber seal is the one to use if, you really want to use it at all. Be careful of the wall thickness of the rubber as this effects the crush i.e. how far the rubber will compress between the body and the lid. McMaster has the thin wall ( This is all that I use) and JC Whitney has the heavier wall.

would anyone be interested in being my broker for mcMaster?

i ship to you - you ship to me. i pay for everything?

Mango, In my indecision last week when I ordered my weather stripping, I bought three different types and it appears that I will have ten feet of style #1 and 10 feet of style #3.
If you were to be thinking of using the D-style, I might have a solution for you. Cutting off the "tongue" of style #1 should give you a 1/2" x 1/2" D-shape. I'd send you a photo but it is over at my mechaanic's shop and I won't be back over there until the eariest tomorrow. Colorwise, it is of the orange/red color like the D-shaped stuff in this photo. Let me know what you think. It is of the Plain Back Silicone variety, no adhesive back.

I'd also offer to be the broker, but as mentioned earlier, don't you have any U.S. friends that you could meet in some clandestine place over a beer an exchange the goods? I'm guessing you're not coming to Carlisle?

thanks for the kind offer Rich, but i am looking for black.

I don't live that close to the border, so it's not as easy as getting it shipped and whipping across to grab it - unfortunately.

Read their descriptions carefully...is there really a black available? They do have plenty of stuff to choose from, but the descriptions can be confusing. If you do find what you need and want me to be the broker, I'll offer, but I think someone closer to you might save a few bucks in shipping. BTW, I see you mentioned putting in a new engine, did you put a Type 4 in this time?

Mangosmoothie,
Might I suggest that you contact Henry at Intermeccanica.He may buy from them,and be able to get you whatever you need. Just a thought!

holy crap - thanks Rich. i missed the colour part. i read 'Plain Back

Mango Man
As in the past, I'll be happy to help you with the order if you still need it.
Email me.

Alan, I really appreciate you commenting on the differences between the D-seal from McMaster Carr versus the one from JC Whitney.

I have the JC Whitney seal installed at the bottom on my doors and it is very difficult to latch the doors because the seal doesn't compress enough.

I just ordered some D-seal from McMaster Carr and I hope it solves the problem.

Heck! If all you need is to finish off the edges get some door edging from a auto parts store. I think they also have black now.

If not there,,, try a search for ... resoration specialties

I got mine from Vintage.

Barry, it's not finishing the edge of door.

It is weatherstripping on the body at the bottom of the door opening that seals against the bottom edge of the door.

got mine from Home Depot. md 5/16" x 19/32" 10' length. Been on the car for a year with no glitches.

home depot sells the square foam stuff. i had hoped to get something that looks a little more 'stock' or vintage.

i've poked my head into a few local places and there isnt much where i live (store of my life as 90% of the parts for this car were bought online)

I use the thin wallled D shaped rubber from McMaster anyone need the item number?

Ok you can also get the small D shaped rubber from Softseal.com if the others don't pan out.

alan - is it black? if so - yes please point me to it. i searched there and didn't find it.

Barry - that website doesn't look like a company. "Help build the largest human-edited directory on the web." do you know where you got yours (company / URL)?

thanks everyone. I appreciate all the help.