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In December 2008 I placed my order with SAS for a water cooled 356 Cabriolet replica. Due to early retirement and other financial concerns I have instructed SAS to sell my position in the queue and refund my $17K(downpayment and first installment). I am willing, on a direct basis, to sell my position for $15K to another customer (with the coordination of SAS). This will save someone $2K in cash and approximately 24 months in waiting time. The car should be available in about 12 months per current schedule. This is, I feel, a great opportunity for somebody.
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In December 2008 I placed my order with SAS for a water cooled 356 Cabriolet replica. Due to early retirement and other financial concerns I have instructed SAS to sell my position in the queue and refund my $17K(downpayment and first installment). I am willing, on a direct basis, to sell my position for $15K to another customer (with the coordination of SAS). This will save someone $2K in cash and approximately 24 months in waiting time. The car should be available in about 12 months per current schedule. This is, I feel, a great opportunity for somebody.
OK, so let me understand this, you gave someone 17K as a down payment for a car that you have waited one and a half years for already, and that isn't scheduled to be completed for another year, and now you have changed your mind and willing to lose 2K in the process hoping someone is willing to take over your spot...
I guess I'm not so crazy after all....
I guess I'm not so crazy after all....
Will someone please answer a question....
How is anyone willing to give a car manufacturer a bunch of money (in this case 17K) and be told their car will be finished in 3 years..
The 17K is actually being used where? for his car or one that is being built right now? Is the 17K drawing interest in a bank or CD somewhere? (granted, right now interest isn't what it used to be)
I can't be the only one who is questioning this....
An SAS just can't be worth all this...I thought buying an Intermeccanica was crazy, but this takes the cake....Henry, I take back everything I ever said about IM
How is anyone willing to give a car manufacturer a bunch of money (in this case 17K) and be told their car will be finished in 3 years..
The 17K is actually being used where? for his car or one that is being built right now? Is the 17K drawing interest in a bank or CD somewhere? (granted, right now interest isn't what it used to be)
I can't be the only one who is questioning this....
An SAS just can't be worth all this...I thought buying an Intermeccanica was crazy, but this takes the cake....Henry, I take back everything I ever said about IM
Just received an e-mail from SAS that my position has been sold and that my refund (in full) will be mailed tomorrow. The spot is no longer available for transfer or sale. Sorry. Two things about SAS: they make a fantastic replica but it takes forever to get one delivered. Production is very low - but the quality, reliability and safety are high.
Another one bites the dust....
I believe there should be an asterix next to their name in the "Makers" folder with some words to the affect of all this B.S.
I believe there should be an asterix next to their name in the "Makers" folder with some words to the affect of all this B.S.
What do the initials "SAS" stand for? I tried goggling SAS and
couldn't find it, and its not in the "makers" log.
couldn't find it, and its not in the "makers" log.
Excuse me, I didn't have my trifocals on when looking for SAS in the
"makers" category.
"makers" category.
Vince - Great business model for SAS - bad for customer! I don't have any reason to question SAS but I'd personally want sizeable discount or interest for putting that much up front. I could see an inital deposit (2 or 5k?), more when it goes to paint/interior and more again when engine is ordered. I'd want specific penalty/refund if not ready in 36 months too. With this economy, companies easily file for bankrupty and reorg under new name or state. When Ford announced the new GT40 very limited production car, dealers were asking for a $40k deposit (on a $240k vehicle) - so guess concept isn't new. One of charges against old CMC was folks paying installments up front and never receiving anything (or incomplete cars). Glad it worked out for Bullet - I sure would hate to loose $2k. Hey, I've got beach front timeshares in Haiti for sale, not built yet, wonder if I can work such a deal?
"I don't have any reason to question SAS"
I sure do...Not that I give a $hit, but this is at the very least, questionable business practice... for both buyer and builder...
3 years...I don't remember what I did 3 years ago, or what car I owned, not to mention being presumptious that your life and thought pattern will still be the same as now....
Where is the down payment being used "right now", and if builder decides to go Belly up, or god forbid dies, what then happens to the Down payment...is this spelled out in a contract....
I have worked hard for my money over the years, and perhaps if I won the lottery, and had plenty to spare, I would take a chance with some things, but even then, I'd want to enjoy myself NOW, not wait 3 years...I just do not understand the thinking here...
perhaps you should take a few grand and donate it to clean up some of those pelicans in the gulf...that's what I did...
I sure do...Not that I give a $hit, but this is at the very least, questionable business practice... for both buyer and builder...
3 years...I don't remember what I did 3 years ago, or what car I owned, not to mention being presumptious that your life and thought pattern will still be the same as now....
Where is the down payment being used "right now", and if builder decides to go Belly up, or god forbid dies, what then happens to the Down payment...is this spelled out in a contract....
I have worked hard for my money over the years, and perhaps if I won the lottery, and had plenty to spare, I would take a chance with some things, but even then, I'd want to enjoy myself NOW, not wait 3 years...I just do not understand the thinking here...
perhaps you should take a few grand and donate it to clean up some of those pelicans in the gulf...that's what I did...
Former Member
Hey whatever happened to the guy that was going to order a sas coupe and have it for carlisle? There was even a bet on kissing their ass if it was done on time?
there was the guy out here in granite bay, waited all the years, got it and couldnt get the CA DMV to approve it, havent heard what happened there, that was a year ago or so.
Vince your first post is, spot on. ~Alan
Is there a guarantee that SAS won't end up Bankrupt or in some sort of litigation AGAIN.....
Are you people frigging crazy, or just don't know what to do with your money....
I find it insulting and a slap in the face to those of us who work hard for a living....
Am I wrong?
Are you people frigging crazy, or just don't know what to do with your money....
I find it insulting and a slap in the face to those of us who work hard for a living....
Am I wrong?
You are absolutely right Vince, I have said the same in the past but it tends to fall upon deaf ears. ~Alan
OH NO! Say it ain't so, Joe. Vince is insulted? You must be the moral arbiter for the site, as your reasoned reponses in the past clearly show. Only you, in your omniscience, have divined that the list of SAS buyers is riddled with dotcom scum and trust fund ne'er- do-well's, all with that silver spoon, while you're the self-appointed union goon for the honest, hardworking little people. Some of those SAS fat cats must have done you wrong, and cheated you out of some of your hard-earned money, or you wouldn't take it so personally.
However, from site pics, it looks like you're packing about 40 extra pounds of blubber, big boy, so I encourage you to take it easy and keep that blood pressure down. No one wants you to stroke out or have the big MI. Where else would this site turn to for guidance? Keep smiling, Porky, what other choice do we have?
However, from site pics, it looks like you're packing about 40 extra pounds of blubber, big boy, so I encourage you to take it easy and keep that blood pressure down. No one wants you to stroke out or have the big MI. Where else would this site turn to for guidance? Keep smiling, Porky, what other choice do we have?
Pass me them beer-nuts,will ya?
, and in the left corner we have........
I NEED POPCON!
Jim, I am smiling...In fact your post made me laugh....your absolutely right, what do I care
It's a new day and I woke up again.
It's a new day and I woke up again.
Right on! This one's a draw.
Former Member
hey jim did u decide on a car yet
sounds like u deposited on a sas
sounds like u deposited on a sas
I'm sure glad that medical Marijuana is available now. Just don't "Bogart that joint."
Hi Gerd,
Yes, I did. I am having a coupe built with Subi engine. I have looked at all the available pics of your car on this site. It's a beauty! Do you have any dash pics? I couldn't find any. Regards, Jim
Yes, I did. I am having a coupe built with Subi engine. I have looked at all the available pics of your car on this site. It's a beauty! Do you have any dash pics? I couldn't find any. Regards, Jim
Former Member
JIM SENT U AN EMAIL
I dont know you guys, but I have to say, I get a kick out of the posts from Vince.... Been reading this site for about a year while I looked for a car. Just funny. Nice one Jim as well...
Chris,
Those horns on Vince's smiley face are well earned. :)
Some say he's just old folklore, an urban legend, I've heard stories from people who say they've come face to face with him, who knows? I hope to meet the legend in person one day.
Those horns on Vince's smiley face are well earned. :)
Some say he's just old folklore, an urban legend, I've heard stories from people who say they've come face to face with him, who knows? I hope to meet the legend in person one day.
We've gotta talk him into coming to Carlisle next spring Mickey.
Maybe we can convince Jim to kidnap him.
Legend? Gee Mickey, don't pump his head up too much. Teri gotta live with him you know.
I am a legend in my own mind....
And I will make the trip to Carlisle some day...I need to know what makes you guys tick...
And I will make the trip to Carlisle some day...I need to know what makes you guys tick...
i believe OBAN has a bottling plant in carlisle.free tours.
hey seriously I heard that now that SAW is done refining their technology that they will be devoting all their time on the actual builds. They made a lot of changes since Johnny's build and the changes take time and interfere with the progress of the build time. I looked into them and feel they offer a lot of bang for the buck. A lot of options like power windows, all four power disc brakes, they're all included in the base price of a cabrio. No one has ever commented negatively on anything regarding SAW other than the wait time, and it does make sense to me that now that all the design enhancements have been worked through the build times would be significantly shorter. I wouldn't throw the baby away with the bathwater if I were seriously interested in one of their builds.
So, Jane...how much are you getting paid??????
no really, in their defense it does make sense that since the development is done they can now concentrate on kickin out the builds and it would be in their best interest to do so, to bring in more $$'s. I think they were making so many ongoing improvements unlike Intermeccanica that's been ding this for ages, what do think, makes sense to me
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Jane, What makes sense and reality isn't always the same, before you put your name in any ring, be sure you know what your doing....
Anbody want to buy a spot in line for "Black Betty?" She'll be ready for delivery in about a month. ;-)
Troy
Troy
" Anbody want to buy a spot in line for "Black Betty?" She'll be ready for delivery in about a month. ;-)
Troy"
Only if you will accept $20K down and deliver in 3 years or more.....
Troy"
Only if you will accept $20K down and deliver in 3 years or more.....