Is it my imagination, or does this additive really work?
Filled my tank - dumped in the Sea Foam - and chewed up a bunch of miles running unnecessary errands...and I think it's running smoother now!
...or is this wishful thinking?...Gordon?
Is it my imagination, or does this additive really work?
Filled my tank - dumped in the Sea Foam - and chewed up a bunch of miles running unnecessary errands...and I think it's running smoother now!
...or is this wishful thinking?...Gordon?
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Always skeptical about additives - but have found Sea Foam and Chevron Techron to be effective gas additives.
I like sea foam. Have used both the gas/diesel additives as well as the "storage" products - used those mainly on my boats For winter storage.
I've used their diesel additive on my truck since I got it and the most failing part on a 6 liter diesel, the EGR valve, is still original (They usually get coked up from running around town a lot).
So, is it possible that you notice a difference on just one treatment? Mmmmmm.....maybe not, but then again....
I have used Chevron Techron Concentrate with great results. I have good things about Sea Foam.
No, it's NOT my imagination, or wishful thinking.
The idle is a lot smoother... steadier.
Remember in high school the urban myth of putting moth balls in your old Chevy engine to gain power?
SeaFoam is:
PALE OIL 40-60% - thin sewing machine oil
NAPTHA 25-35% - moth balls
IPA 10-20% - isopropol alcohol
Not sure those contents justify $8 a can.
Guys, guys, guys: Everybody knows that miracle additives are only the first step. To make your car REALLY run well, you need to strap a magnet on your fuel line, and put a hydrogen generator in your engine bay.
I heard the oil companies paid a million dollars for the patent for a "special" carburetor that returns 50 mpg in a full-sized Plymouth-- just to keep it off the market!
Stan, how big is a hydrogen generator?
I don't have much room in the engine bay.
Stan, how big is a hydrogen generator?
I don't have much room in the engine bay.
It's slightly smaller than a cold-fusion reactor.
Carl: mine's about the size of a loaf of bread. My late brother was into those big-time and I built him a couple of 24-plate boxes as a gift, but then he died and I don't know what to do with them.... They look like this (and yes, they make an oxy/ hydrogen mix): (Nuts! Can't add a pic from my phone - please stand by....)
God! What a PITA to get a phone photo up on here!!
Anyway, here you go, Carl. This is one of two, supposedly big enough to suit a decent-sized V-6. I don't know.....all I did was see the plans and built it to spec. Don't know if they do anything or not. This one's set up for a water valve (to prevent burp-back) and remote fill with the water/hydrolite mix. Like Stan, If I actually believed that they worked I might try them on something. My brother swore by his, but I don't know.....
I tried SeaFoam and didn't notice any difference at all.
You mean there really is such a thing as a Hydrogen Generator??
I thought Stan, in good humor, was spoofing.
Please don't tell me that there's also such a thing as a Cold Fusion Reactor!
Troy, I don't think you'd notice any improvement if you're running a clean engine/carb with no carbon build-up and whistle clean jets.
Wolfgang, $8 a can? I paid $10.63 with tax!
Maybe you could mix a few gallons of this stuff combining the simple ingredients you mentioned...bottle it up and peddle it as "WolfSpit"...I'd buy some.
Dihydrogen monoxide, perhaps?
Better yet, market this additive concoction as WolffenSpittle with a double dot accent over the 'p'...or maybe WolfgangerSchlurpp?
Anything that sounds like it has a Germanic pedigree will fly off the shelves!!
"Dihydrogen monoxide, perhaps?"
Beats the heck out of me. Chemistry was never my strong suit but, since you're starting with H2O and some other stuff to enhance the electrolytic action, I suppose it would be.
All I know is my brother told me to NEVER test it by trying to light a flame at the end of the discharge tube when it's running.........He said it with that look of, "Yeah, I was dumb enough to do that, but don't ask about it".
Honestly, I've been afraid to try them out. i would feel safer with "Cold Fusion" or even my BN2 heater......
Ummm... Gordon, H2O IS dihydrogen monoxide. Sounds like you start with water and wind up with... water.
The whole idea is all wet. Put a copper bracelet around your fuel line and it changes the flow of ions. Add a reverse ferangolator valve to the gribbler arm suspended to the left side of the osmosis filter and there you go....but I too like Sea Foam.
I've used Sea Foam with some success in lawn mower and chain saw motors when they sat too long with the ethynol-based gas in them. That stuff had really fouled up the inerds of the carbs and the Sea Foam worked great at cleaning them out.
Actually, it is possible to separate water into its constituent parts through electrolysis but it's not the free energy that charlatans and hucksters claim it is.
quite the reverse! But I hear you can make it up in volume.
As near as I could tell;
1. The units act as an octane booster to simply give you more bang for your fuel buck and use less fuel and;
2. No one could prove to me that they actually work.
3. They do separate water into both hydrogen and oxygen, combined as a gas, by electrolosis action produced by running a direct current between two stainless steel plates sitting in a catalyzed, water bath - in this case, duplicating those plates 12 times in one container for more output. It puts out enough gas to fill a head-sized balloon in about a minute and a half, but it is highly flammable (remember the Hindenburg?) and something I don't want to play with.
It might be fun to try one on a lawn mower to see if it would run purely on the output of a generator (some say it will and I can't see why not, but it would not be a variable speed set-up as the generator only produces a set amount of output) but I don't have the time or inclination to do so.
My brother had a slightly smaller one on his Dakota pickup for a few years and swore it boosted his mileage 3-4 MPG but I have no proof. I built these for him as an upgrade to what he had (Mine had water safety valves and remote fill) but never saw them in action. It would be nice to find someone willing to buy the damn things, just to get them out of the garage!
Getting back to the SeaFoam for a moment.....I have a gas, house generator that only runs with the choke partially closed, so I'll be trying some Sea Foam through the carb in the next few weeks to see if I can get it to un-clog without opening up the carb to clean it out. One thing I've heard about is using a small container on a hose directly into the fuel inlet of the carb in place of the normal fuel line, fill the container with Sea Foam gas treatment and try starting it up. It's supposed to run, somewhat, just on sea foam and it cleans the carb out in a minute or so......we'll see.
I'll report back when I get something done.
Yes they call it a Brown's gas generator . If you use a pulse module and platinum plates it works better I'm waiting for the Nickelized Nano particle plates to come available.. They work even better than Platinum. some people us baking soda but a pinch of lye is the best thing to add to the water.
Carl- how may miles do you have on your carbs and what size motor? I heard fuel type makes a difference; why type and octane have you been running before using the Sea Foam additive.
I converted my house generator to propane. Oil is cleaner and easier to store fuel as propane doesn't go bad. No seafoam needed, ever.
bluespeedster,
The engine is a type1 of 2110cc running 44 Webers. I purchased this VS nearly two years ago with odometer reading a bit over 60k kilometers.
That's basically all I know about the engine because the seller wished to remain semi-anonymous in the background. All communications was routed through a third party who couldn't provide detailed engine-build information. The records of the engine builder in Hawaiian Gardens is by customer name and not by specific engine i.D. number... So I don't really know what the engine components are or what the mileage is... (I keep my fingers crossed and bite my lip when ever I venture beyond my 'towing radius')
I've driven about 1,500 miles on 91octane/10% ethanol with measured Sta-Bil (blue) additive per fill up. About a year ago a mechanic friend casually mentioned that Sea-Foam was "good stuff" so I bought a can, and forgot about it until this week. This Sea-Foam has noticeably smoothed out and steadied my idle... so I don't bite my lip now in stop'n go traffic.
Aaaa, forgot to mention...
This 91 octane fuel is purchased at a local Chevron station because they have a variety of fresh strong coffee will no-spill containers!
I usually just go to any gas station with a "Hottie" at the register..........
Hey, I finally got around to messing with my Generac House Generator, with some Sea Foam treatment.
When last I used it (sometime late last Winter) it would only stay running with the choke set to about 1/2-choked or better. This indicated some sort of fuel starvation, requiring less inlet air (hence the need for the choke to be on all the time).
I drained all the gas (It was about 6 months old and had been treated with StaBil Marine formula when new), poured in about 8 ounces of Sea Foam and about 1/2 gallon of fresh gas and started it up. At first, it needed about 1/2 choke to stay running, but after about 5 minutes it changed note and began running less smooth so I gave it more choke, but that only made it worse, so I pushed the choke totally OFF and it smoothed right out. I think it cleaned out the varnish from wherever it was partially clogged and didn't need the choked setting any more..
After that, I let it run for another five minutes, stopped it, re-started it and it ran fine.
Way, way, WAY better than pulling the carb apart to unclog it!!
Carl's on to something........
It's a MIRACLE, I'm telling you. Ba heeeeled!
You guys need to get your order into me for my secret snake oil (cures baldness, tapping valves, oil leaks, and psoriasis). I'm calling it "Wolfgang Scheiss".
You guys need to get your order into me for my secret snake oil (cures baldness, tapping valves, oil leaks, and psoriasis). I'm calling Wolgang Scheiss.
It's German sounding. It MUST be good!
Hello, this topic trail really lost focus. Asking where one can buy this SeaFoam that I may try it on my lawnmower. Thanx
just about any auto parts outfit.....Pep Boys, Autozone, O'Rielys,etc.
Also Walmart, NAPA.
And a slightly wider variety of products at a boat/marine supplier.
I used the Lucas brand fuel system cleaner in my truck just before heading to Carlisle. The truck had thrown a code--EGR valve. I looked into how to clean the valve--actually four of them, one in each intake runner--and thought Oh, ****. So tossed the Lucas stuff in because it was on the counter at the auto parts place and 2 for $10 (or maybe 2 for $5. I forget).
On the way home from Carlisle the Check Engine light went off.
Milage improved from about 23 to about 25mpg.
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