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I like sea foam.  Have used both the gas/diesel additives as well as the "storage" products - used those mainly on my boats For winter storage.

 

I've used their diesel additive on my truck since I got it and the most failing part on a 6 liter diesel, the EGR valve, is still original (They usually get coked up from running around town a lot). 

 

So, is it possible that you notice a difference on just one treatment?  Mmmmmm.....maybe not, but then again....

Guys, guys, guys: Everybody knows that miracle additives are only the first step. To make your car REALLY run well, you need to strap a magnet on your fuel line, and put a hydrogen generator in your engine bay.

 

I heard the oil companies paid a million dollars for the patent for a "special" carburetor that returns 50 mpg in a full-sized Plymouth-- just to keep it off the market!

Carl:  mine's about the size of a loaf of bread.  My late brother was into those big-time and I built him a couple of 24-plate boxes as a gift, but then he died and I don't know what to do with them....   They look like this (and yes,  they make an oxy/ hydrogen mix):  (Nuts!  Can't add a pic from my phone - please stand by....)

 

God!  What a PITA to get a phone photo up on here!!

 

Anyway, here you go, Carl.  This is one of two, supposedly big enough to suit a decent-sized V-6.  I don't know.....all I did was see the plans and built it to spec.  Don't know if they do anything or not.  This one's set up for a water valve (to prevent burp-back) and remote fill with the water/hydrolite mix.  Like Stan, If I actually believed that they worked I might try them on something.  My brother swore by his, but I don't know.....

 

 

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"Dihydrogen monoxide, perhaps?"

 

Beats the heck out of me.  Chemistry was never my strong suit but, since you're starting with H2O and some other stuff to enhance the electrolytic action, I suppose it would be.  

 

All I know is my brother told me to NEVER test it by trying to light a flame at the end of the discharge tube when it's running.........He said it with that look of, "Yeah, I was dumb enough to do that, but don't ask about it".

 

Honestly, I've been afraid to try them out.  i would feel safer with "Cold Fusion" or even my BN2 heater......

 

As near as I could tell;

 

1.  The units act as an octane booster to simply give you more bang for your fuel buck and use less fuel and;

 

2.  No one could prove to me that they actually work.  

 

3.  They do separate water into both hydrogen and oxygen, combined as a gas, by electrolosis action produced by running a direct current between two stainless steel plates sitting in a catalyzed, water bath - in this case, duplicating those plates 12 times in one container for more output.   It puts out enough gas to fill a head-sized balloon in about a minute and a half, but it is highly flammable (remember the Hindenburg?) and something I don't want to play with.

 

It might be fun to try one on a lawn mower to see if it would run purely on the output of a generator (some say it will and I can't see why not, but it would not be a variable speed set-up as the generator only produces a set amount of output) but I don't have the time or inclination to do so.  

 

My brother had a slightly smaller one on his Dakota pickup for a few years and swore it boosted his mileage 3-4 MPG but I have no proof.  I built these for him as an upgrade to what he had (Mine had water safety valves and remote fill) but never saw them in action.  It would be nice to find someone willing to buy the damn things, just to get them out of the garage!

 

Getting back to the SeaFoam for a moment.....I have a gas, house generator that only runs with the choke partially closed, so I'll be trying some Sea Foam through the carb in the next few weeks to see if I can get it to un-clog without opening up the carb to clean it out.  One thing I've heard about is using a small container on a hose directly into the fuel inlet of the carb in place of the normal fuel line, fill the container with Sea Foam gas treatment and try starting it up.  It's supposed to run, somewhat, just on sea foam and it cleans the carb out in a minute or so......we'll see.

 

I'll report back when I get something done.

bluespeedster,

 

The engine is a type1 of 2110cc running 44 Webers. I purchased this VS nearly two years ago with odometer reading a bit over 60k kilometers.

 

That's basically all I know about the engine because the seller wished to remain semi-anonymous in the background. All communications was routed through a third party who couldn't provide detailed engine-build information. The records of the engine builder in Hawaiian Gardens is by customer name and not by specific engine i.D. number... So I don't really know what the engine components are or what the mileage is... (I keep my fingers crossed and bite my lip when ever I venture beyond my 'towing radius')

 

I've driven about 1,500 miles on 91octane/10% ethanol with measured Sta-Bil (blue) additive per fill up. About a year ago a mechanic friend casually mentioned that Sea-Foam was "good stuff" so I bought a can, and forgot about it until this week. This Sea-Foam has noticeably smoothed out and steadied my idle... so I don't bite my lip now in stop'n go traffic.  

 

 

Hey, I finally got around to messing with my Generac House Generator, with some Sea Foam treatment.

 

When last I used it (sometime late last Winter) it would only stay running with the choke set to about 1/2-choked or better.  This indicated some sort of fuel starvation, requiring less inlet air (hence the need for the choke to be on all the time).

 

I drained all the gas (It was about 6 months old and had been treated with StaBil Marine formula when new), poured in about 8 ounces of Sea Foam and about 1/2 gallon of fresh gas and started it up.  At first, it needed about 1/2 choke to stay running, but after about 5 minutes it changed note and began running less smooth so I gave it more choke, but that only made it worse, so I pushed the choke totally OFF and it smoothed right out.  I think it cleaned out the varnish from wherever it was partially clogged and didn't need the choked setting any more..

 

After that, I let it run for another five minutes, stopped it, re-started it and it ran fine.

 

Way, way, WAY better than pulling the carb apart to unclog it!!

 

Carl's on to something........

I used the Lucas brand fuel system cleaner in my truck just before heading to Carlisle. The truck had thrown a code--EGR valve. I looked into how to clean the valve--actually four of them, one in each intake runner--and thought Oh, ****. So tossed the Lucas stuff in because it was on the counter at the auto parts place and 2 for $10 (or maybe 2 for $5. I forget). 

 

On the way home from Carlisle the Check Engine light went off. 

 

Milage improved from about 23 to about 25mpg.

 

 

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