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You just can't make this shit up, it's better than going to the movies...
Jimbo, how about another beer....
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Gerd, that one car really did have significant problems that went beyond what Tom was able to cope with by himself, and he lived too far away to efficiently handle them by sending the car back.
Tom and JPS had significant difficulties with each other, stemming from counting on each other to be like-minded people. Their mutual goal was to make the car right to the best of their abilities, but JPS isn't in business to lose money and Tom wanted a working automobile that functioned like a Porsche instead of a Volkswagen.
Other companies handle those types of difficulties differently, as do other customers. While there's plenty we could point fingers at on both sides, depending on perspectives and our own past experiences, let's please not do that.
Tom has moved on, JPS continues to make great-looking cars that hobbyists enjoy for what they are, and we don't need to crap all over this again.
Tom and JPS had significant difficulties with each other, stemming from counting on each other to be like-minded people. Their mutual goal was to make the car right to the best of their abilities, but JPS isn't in business to lose money and Tom wanted a working automobile that functioned like a Porsche instead of a Volkswagen.
Other companies handle those types of difficulties differently, as do other customers. While there's plenty we could point fingers at on both sides, depending on perspectives and our own past experiences, let's please not do that.
Tom has moved on, JPS continues to make great-looking cars that hobbyists enjoy for what they are, and we don't need to crap all over this again.
Could someone please post a link to that old thread? I love picking at scabs on old wounds . . .
I would have to agree with everything Cory just said, except the crapping part...but what some members might not remember is that Tom's coupe was like number 2 that JPS made, and you must expect issues on any prototype machinery....granted John may not be what we call a people person, but as I remember Tom busted his balls right out of the gate....
Gerd is a friend of John's and I'm glad to say also a friend of mine, I would hope he sticks it up for me when I need it...He's that kind of guy..
Hey Gerd....Kiss Kiss
Gerd is a friend of John's and I'm glad to say also a friend of mine, I would hope he sticks it up for me when I need it...He's that kind of guy..
Hey Gerd....Kiss Kiss
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Gerd,
You have been around way to long for me to have to tell you that profanity is not tolerated. I really don't care what anyone is passionate about. If you want to berate Tom then call him, meet him or at a minimum email him privately. Don't bring it onto my site.
-=theron
You have been around way to long for me to have to tell you that profanity is not tolerated. I really don't care what anyone is passionate about. If you want to berate Tom then call him, meet him or at a minimum email him privately. Don't bring it onto my site.
-=theron
Vince you never had a dog in this fight nor did I. But I was there when Tom's and Kelly's car came off the trailer. If it was you or me they mighta got sent back.
Other that that,
I Like Chicken Pot Pie!
~WB
Other that that,
I Like Chicken Pot Pie!
~WB
Gerd...consider your peepee whacked....you are a trouble maker...
see you in the morning for our run...
see you in the morning for our run...
WOW FIRST TIME I HAVE BEEN WHACKED.
ITS ALRIGHT ASWALT DESERVED IT AS HE COST ME MONEY.
PLEASE ADD AN EXTRA S INTO EACH ASWALT.
CORY U R A GOOD GUY SO ILL RESPOND TO U AS WELL AS ASWALT
FIRST OF ALL I DID NOT BRING UP THE PAST ASWALT DID
ASWALT POSTED MY THREAD MAY DE-VALUE JPS COUPES
ASWALT POSTED
ITS ALRIGHT ASWALT DESERVED IT AS HE COST ME MONEY.
PLEASE ADD AN EXTRA S INTO EACH ASWALT.
CORY U R A GOOD GUY SO ILL RESPOND TO U AS WELL AS ASWALT
FIRST OF ALL I DID NOT BRING UP THE PAST ASWALT DID
ASWALT POSTED MY THREAD MAY DE-VALUE JPS COUPES
ASWALT POSTED
GERD...STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD.....GET THE PUMP!
Tom, Gerd, let's not do this here. It isn't good for this hobby for owners to fight over a stack of rocks piled on a dead issue.
The car in question was, and is, the most beautiful fiberglass 356 replica I have ever seen. I would be proud to own it, even knowing it was a prototype which had teething problems. If I had not spent money equivalent to a modern Porsche on the toy I already have, I would have bought it from Tom in a heartbeat.
Rather than standing loudly at odds over what has clearly become a pride-based argument, please consider instead the health of the hobby as a whole. Be happy with what you drive now and the guys we get to cruise with -- as well as considerate of those who are considering joining us.
The car in question was, and is, the most beautiful fiberglass 356 replica I have ever seen. I would be proud to own it, even knowing it was a prototype which had teething problems. If I had not spent money equivalent to a modern Porsche on the toy I already have, I would have bought it from Tom in a heartbeat.
Rather than standing loudly at odds over what has clearly become a pride-based argument, please consider instead the health of the hobby as a whole. Be happy with what you drive now and the guys we get to cruise with -- as well as considerate of those who are considering joining us.
Wise words Cory... lets move on. BTW I have the 3rd JPS coupe and proud to say that I am the only one of the 1st three that is still the original owner. I have now close to 20,000 miles in it. It took awhile to sort it out, but now it is running sweet.
Very sad to see this thread on the SOC site. In house trolls are lowering the level discourse---a lot.
2x what Cory said too.
Theron should erase more than the one post he erased--this whole thread should be removed.
Comon, guys---you can do better.
2x what Cory said too.
Theron should erase more than the one post he erased--this whole thread should be removed.
Comon, guys---you can do better.
THERON IM WITH JACK ON THIS
DELETE THE ENTIRE THREAD
DELETE THE ENTIRE THREAD
"Ready, aim, fire" beats "ready, fire, aim" every single time.
There is no argument. I wanted no argument or controversy.
I apologize for making a stupid attempt at a joke which obviously struck a raw nerve. I am very sorry.
For the record, I loved that car. It was my long-time dream car. I was very proud of it. As Cory says it was/is beautiful and the guy who bought it is a lucky man that got a bargain despite the (Fixed) issues. JPS did a GREAT job capturing my vision. Had economic situations not thrown my world into a whirlwind of change I would STILL have that beauty.
My situation, displeasure with my treatment, and desperate frustrations in finding help are all a matter of record and ANCIENT HISTORY. Clearly JPS Coupes are selling and the owners are happy. GREAT! I am happy they are and as such there has obviously been no long term ill effect.
That was my point. There has been NO LONG TERM ILL EFFECT.
I will always be indebted to my SOC friends who dropped everything and came to my aid when I needed it most. Your friendship, encouragement and expertise in my hour of need was a clear example of what is the best of this hobby and this group. Thanks again for your help and support.
I apologize for making a stupid attempt at a joke which obviously struck a raw nerve. I am very sorry.
For the record, I loved that car. It was my long-time dream car. I was very proud of it. As Cory says it was/is beautiful and the guy who bought it is a lucky man that got a bargain despite the (Fixed) issues. JPS did a GREAT job capturing my vision. Had economic situations not thrown my world into a whirlwind of change I would STILL have that beauty.
My situation, displeasure with my treatment, and desperate frustrations in finding help are all a matter of record and ANCIENT HISTORY. Clearly JPS Coupes are selling and the owners are happy. GREAT! I am happy they are and as such there has obviously been no long term ill effect.
That was my point. There has been NO LONG TERM ILL EFFECT.
I will always be indebted to my SOC friends who dropped everything and came to my aid when I needed it most. Your friendship, encouragement and expertise in my hour of need was a clear example of what is the best of this hobby and this group. Thanks again for your help and support.
This thread is a part of SOC, just like newbies asking about dash knobs. or owners comparing torque. This is a family of car guys and gals, and all families sometimes have arguments. I see no disrepute to the hobby. Not all of us get along, just like family reunions, eh? Owners feel strongly about their rides and often feel a sense of loyalty to their car's builder, their mechanic, suppliers, etc.
This is a minor bump in the long road of SOC, which has a rich history of helping members in their enjoyment of our cars. We don't need to hide anything. Don't delete it, just let it die a natural death.
This is a minor bump in the long road of SOC, which has a rich history of helping members in their enjoyment of our cars. We don't need to hide anything. Don't delete it, just let it die a natural death.
Tom, well said.
I disagree with Jack that this thread should be deleted.
It shows how this site works, in a nutshell: miss-spoken/understood comments which are contested, collaborated, defended, supported, admonished, reflected, conceded, and, finally, put to rest.
If our government could be so well executed we would be fortunate.
This, gentlemen and ladies, is a great group of people and a most worthwhile place to visit.
I disagree with Jack that this thread should be deleted.
It shows how this site works, in a nutshell: miss-spoken/understood comments which are contested, collaborated, defended, supported, admonished, reflected, conceded, and, finally, put to rest.
If our government could be so well executed we would be fortunate.
This, gentlemen and ladies, is a great group of people and a most worthwhile place to visit.
Well said Tom, you are a true gentlemen.
$hit, if this is way you guys are gonna act, I'm taking my Catheter bag & going home...
TOM
I APOLOGISE FOR JUMPING DOWN YOUR THROAT
ILL BUY U A FEW BEERS IF I EVER SEE U
PAST IS OVER AND I AM OFFICIALLY OVER IT
I APOLOGISE FOR JUMPING DOWN YOUR THROAT
ILL BUY U A FEW BEERS IF I EVER SEE U
PAST IS OVER AND I AM OFFICIALLY OVER IT
Now you're REALLY going to make Vince cry.
Good sense prevails. Nice goin'.
Oh man, I hate these group hugs!
it's getting awkward....
see you guys later
see you guys later
I think we have the makings of a make-for-TV movie here :)