Something Wicked This Way Comes...

The power to weight ratio discussion on the non-tech side got me thinking that you all might get a kick out of this. The 3.2 in the spyder was a very stout engine and VERY well built. 260 to 280 of the most honest horsepower its ever been my pleasure to kick in the ass! But the car will go up for sale and the market does not seem to want to pay what that engine was worth, so we'll sell the car as a roller.

That 3.2 got shipped off some time ago with a new build in mind. We dropped the compression, swapped cams, ported the heads, etc., for a turbo application. The builder actually let me drive his personal car that was built to the same spec - think 400-450 hp on pump gas. He's getting that in Denver, Colorado - a mile high. Sea level probably makes more. Very mild mannered until you start to be a wise guy and then believe me, you'd better be hanging on!

It's intended to go into a future 904 build. We believe we can keep this build, even with the extra oil cooling and intercooler system, to 1,900 lbs with fuel on board. The idea here is to actually succeed in sucking small children through the intake on full throtttle or at least being able to rip the clothing off passers-by... The engine will stay crated until TR has a driving 904 on the ground (or we'll say to hell with it and buy a beck).

angela

I don't want to get too technical but that looks "shiny"

:)

A picture (or 3) is worth a thousand words...

Glad to hear from you again, Angela!
What kind of timeline are you looking at for the prospective 904 shell delivery, and will you be fitting everything to it?
Paul Rich, out this way, has a TR Speedster he's still trying to dial in. Curious to see the build quality comparison.

I think it would be apples and oranges, Cory. I believe Angela and Steve built their car themselves.

Yes, the spyder was a home build. I don't think we left any part of it as shipped from TR except the windshield. We didn't modify the windshield at all - LOL! We had in mind a different type of build than a standard TR car. Anal retentive things like all of the bolts are matching Stainless Steel buttonhead fasteners. I'll bet there's over $300 in just the stainless fasteners on this car...

Not going to see a 904 anytime real soon, Cory. The spyder goes down the road and that finances the two speedsters we are going to build. They'll both go turbo-subie - got the coolant system routing picked out, radiators already purchased, etc. One will be a luxury hot-rod and the other will be a naughty little outlaw. When those two are done, we can move onto the 904 so this engine will be stored for a while.

The next phase of the build of the engine is a rather expensive one. It is the engine management (fuel and ignition) system. Going to build it on a 3.2 manifold from an 84 to 89 911. You extrude hone the manifolds, fit a gargantuan throttle body on it and get busy makin' power! Anyway that will be put off until we're dedicated on putting it in a 904 as the intercooler routing would be different for that application compared to, say, putting that engine in Steve's 911. Actually quite a bit more room in a 904 for the intercooler.

One thing is for certain. There is no way in hell that Steve will let me put this engine in Butters - LOL!

angela

Angela - That 911 engine would be very sweet in a 904. I want to hear more about these turbo-Subie speedsters you're building. There was a fellow on here who retrofitted a N/A Subie to his IM Speedster and came out with a good result. Is this an imminent project for you, or are you still in the planning stages?

Both the speedsters are on the property and they roll around. We have the Porsche 944 front brakes and rear suspension/rear brakes already on property as well along with the major parts of the cooling system for both cars. The first step (after the spyder is gone) will be to re-do everything the previous builder completed as it is not up to the level of the car build we have in mind. So body off, start all over again.

Once the spyder is gone, we'll pick up the subie engines and computer systems. So that is the order of things. The spyder finances both those builds.

We have some really neat ideas for these two. You'll dig 'em.

angela

Keep us posted with pics once you get underway.

I'm running the Subaru EJ22 no turbo. Using the stock engine management makes good dependable power I'm sure you will be very happy with a subaru. Which engine are you looking at and who are you considering sourcing it from. Depending on how you mount the engine your likely going to need a shortened oil pan like this. http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29947

Peter - Great linb thanks for posting!

No problem . I'm using their oil pan on my EJ2.2 and the stainless exhaust with cat. It

I'm still trying to get past the 400-450hp in a 904 thing.
You and Steve are certifiable! ;)

Why do you think we fit in with you guys - LOL! Let's face it, Steve and I provide GREAT entertainment value. It's sort of like watching the "See the Rednecks Play with Gasoline!" Step right up and take your bets - are they gonna catch on fire? Blow it up? Drive it without brakes?

I think that we show up to Porsche get-to-gether (real porsches) that there are people actually vacate the premises as soon as we arrive...

angela

BWAAAAHHAAAAHAAAA Wolfgang running -?!- Bwaaahaahaaaaa, oh stop it, I'm crying, can't see the keyboard anymore -- oh my sides . . .