Does anyone know anything about this company. Their build cost is so much less than Beck and Vintage
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You have just dodged a bullet!
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Ordering a car from SAS is not the same as getting a car from SAS. There are at least 20 people ahead of you and they’ve been waiting for more than 10 years for a car. Do the research.
Do a search on this site as well as the internet. A few here have owned SAS cars (back when he actually delivered) with mixed results, but they are known for horror stories about non-delivery. As Robert said, do the research.
Like Robert said, just do a search for SAS or Steve Lawing on the SpeedsterOwners.com and you'll understand.
I suggest that you broaden your research to gain a wider perspective. Include the Better Business Bureau for Specialty Auto Sports of Knoxville TN, and the Bankruptcy Court for Eastern District Tennessee for Specialty Auto Works, the previous company name Steve Lawing used for bankruptcy.
When you read the tales of woe in the above sites, you will realize already have sufficient drama in your life. Caveat emptor!
All of the above and much more.
Avoid that guy like the plague.
Looks like Beck or Vintage is my best choice. Thanks for everyone's response
@Billp posted:Looks like Beck or Vintage is my best choice. Thanks for everyone's response
Glad you dodged the bullet. Too bad the victims of Steve's business practices didn't have your good sense or luck.
@Billp posted:Looks like Beck or Vintage is my best choice. Thanks for everyone's response
Troy Sloan could likely help you find one. He's on this site and his website says " he buys Speedsters " so I'm guessing he's got quite a collection and may know where you can find one too.
There is a VS (and assume VM now) reseller in Georgia. Have heard good things about them (they handle any required further sorting required). I don't recall dealer.
Years ago, SAS used to be called SAW - it too filed for bankruptcy but re-emerged as SAS.
RoyP is the east coast dealer of Vintage Motorcars speedsters. Vintage Motorcars is currently not taking orders for Coupes or Spyders. You can get a car faster though Roy but they will all come in same flavor. You may not be able to pick out color of car.
I meet Roy. Nice guy. Plan to visit again. He has two cars. I think he is putting a premium on them . He has the cars so I don't blame him...
@Billp posted:I meet Roy. Nice guy. Plan to visit again. He has two cars. I think he is putting a premium on them . He has the cars so I don't blame him...
If Troy has any they’re listed on his site:
As some have mentioned, I am the East Coast dealer for Vintage Motorcars of CA and would be more than happy to have a car built in the exact colors and options of your choice. I do order some cars for inventory as well and currently have a Black/Baseball glove and a Silver/Cardinal Red car available.
My business is Cloud 9 Classics and I can be reached at 770-359-8400 or roy@cloud9classics.com
Do I surmise from the above that Steve Lawing is not in jail and is still taking money to build replicas? How is that possible?
@El Frazoo posted:Do I surmise from the above that Steve Lawing is not in jail and is still taking money to build replicas? How is that possible?
Best guess he has not crossed the wrong guy…yet.
I was invited to SAS to see his work. I'm not that far from him. Interesting.....
@Billp posted:I was invited to SAS to see his work. I'm not that far from him. Interesting.....
If you go see him ask A LOT of questions but please don't give him any money.
Specifically ask him about The Queue. https://www.tapatalk.com/group...queue-t102-s195.html
No one here has posted since 2017. There are something like 20+ people on the list who have been waiting and are still waiting for an SAS built Speedster. Ask if you'll be in line after them or will somehow miraculously be at the head of the list.
Ask him whatever you want and he will probably tell you what you want to here and then do as he pleases.
If you get involved buying a car from him, don't come here crying.
CAVEAT EMPTOR SQUARED!
Out of the blue after waiting 6Plus years our deposit was sent back, it took numerous phone calls,emails and lots of frustration. Not sure what happened but feel that he was being cornered with legal action. Don’t see this man ever being honest or truthful steer clear he is running some sort of a Ponzi scheme.
@karen swan posted:Out of the blue after waiting 6Plus years our deposit was sent back, it took numerous phone calls,emails and lots of frustration. Not sure what happened but feel that he was being cornered with legal action. Don’t see this man ever being honest or truthful steer clear he is running some sort of a Ponzi scheme.
Some good news at least. Congratulations on getting your deposit back.
@karen swan posted:Out of the blue after waiting 6Plus years our deposit was sent back, it took numerous phone calls,emails and lots of frustration. Not sure what happened but feel that he was being cornered with legal action. Don’t see this man ever being honest or truthful steer clear he is running some sort of a Ponzi scheme.
Did the check clear yet 
Just kidding, congrats
Wow! A miracle.
That's truly good news, Karen. Congratulations.
Let me also offer my congratulations on your good fortune.
I never expected to see that someone actually got their money back from that swindler so good for you.
Certainly makes this a great New Year!
Hey there,
I’m interested in buying a new speedster.
can you help me with that please?
Thanks
@O.J.C posted:Hey there,
I’m interested in buying a new speedster.
can you help me with that please?
Thanks
Read back through this thread. The best new purchase options are mentioned. Good luck!
I think these guys still build them. May take a year or 2.
https://www.jps-motorsports.com
@Cartod posted:I think these guys still build them. May take a year or 2.
https://www.jps-motorsports.com
Do your homework before considering JPS. Lots of info on this site.
@Cartod posted:I think these guys still build them. May take a year or 2.
https://www.jps-motorsports.com
If by "these guys still build them" you mean a single 75+ year old former furniture salesman still subcontracts finishes to frames and bodies built elsewhere, then you're correct.
Caveat Emptor.
Ten foot pole for either one: SAS(SAW) or JPS.
@Stan Galat posted:
If by "these guys still build them" you mean a single 75+ year old former furniture salesman still subcontracts finishes to frames and bodies built elsewhere, then you're correct.
Caveat Emptor.
Goodness! Sounds like they pee’d in your cheerios! My JPS Is still fine after 20+ years. As a Porsche collector I find it a quality build. The paint is second to none, especially for the time. It sounds like John may have pissed a few off but this car is excellent, and they still have a years waiting list. 😀
maybe I should be banned or silenced? Like a good German.
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As a matter of fact, JPS did pee in my Cheerios, @Cartod.
I purchased my JPS as a new (commissioned) build in 2002. The situation has been chronicled to death on this site (way back when) - but suffice it to say that it was the single most disappointing transaction of my life. I wouldn't wish the experience on my worst enemy, but yes - he hired the shop next door to lay on some very nice paint.
I can only assume you didn't have the pleasure of directly dealing with John on a new build, because very nearly every person here who has had the misfortune of dealing directly with JPS has a similar story. He lies like you and I breathe.
I'm really glad you're happy with your car. A used JPS is the only way I'd ever recommend buying one.
@Stan Galat posted:As a matter of fact, JPS did pee in my Cheerios, @Cartod. I purchased my JPS as a new (commissioned) build in 2002. The situation has been chronicled to death, but suffice it to say that it was the single most disappointing transaction of my life. I wouldn't wish the experience on my worst enemy, but yes - he hired the shop next door to lay on some very nice paint.
I can only assume you didn't have the pleasure of dealing with John on a new build, because every person here who has had the misfortune of dealing directly with JPS has a similar story.
Nope, never dealt with them. Sorry you had a bad experience, but no one gets on the internet other to complain. My JPS build quality is second to none. Jay Leno apparently agrees. My advice is to move on. Apparently John is not a good businessman, but his cars are pretty damn nice.
@Cartod posted:Nope, never dealt with them. Sorry you had a bad experience, but no one gets on the internet other to complain. My JPS build quality is second to none. Jay Leno apparently agrees.
I guess I'm lost.
You're new here, and are welcome to your opinion - but you have no idea who I am, or why I come here. In 22 years (and over 126,000 posts), I've complained about exactly one thing - my JPS build
... not the Speedster I had before I commissioned that build, not the Intermeccanica Speedster I had built afterward. Only that car.
I moved on a long, long time ago - but you recommended ordering a car from JPS, an experience you've never had, but one which I did. As I said, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
Be well.